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Old 27th August 2006, 01:29 AM   #1
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Bobby Darin's Capitol recordings

Especially "As Long As I'm Singing" and "Hello Dolly"

These recordings have incredible dynamics and clarity. His band was utterly slammin' to be sure, but somehow this comes across on tape really well.

Anyone have details (memories?) of these sessions.

Most of the Darin recordings from this time are credited to Steve Douglas, Jim Economides and Tom Morgan as producers.

I'm guessing M49/M50, but what else, if so?
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Especially "As Long As I'm Singing" and "Hello Dolly"

These recordings have incredible dynamics and clarity. His band was utterly slammin' to be sure, but somehow this comes across on tape really well.

Anyone have details (memories?) of these sessions.

Most of the Darin recordings from this time are credited to Steve Douglas, Jim Economides and Tom Morgan as producers.

I'm guessing M49/M50, but what else, if so?
No details, just a fan

I like "Sunday in New York" as well as the tunes you mentioned.

Like many recordings from that era, Ella, Dave Brubeck Sinatra, and others it all boils down to incredible TALENT!!

From the guy hitting the triangle to the engineer, these people had incredible amounts of creative talent.

A factor that IMHO is sadly missing from today's mainstream music, but can be heard on the progressive and indie stations catering to that kind of music.

Listen to some of the Ella Fitzgerald stuff from the late 50's on and it's absolutely unbelieveable how *hi-fi* it sounds...Sure there's a little hiss, but the sound is still crystal clear..

IMHO Bobby Darin has always been highly underated.
He's got a style all his own, like Sinatra, and it's not so much his pipes but his phrasing that makes the songs come alive.
Kinda like Sinatra..

With all the studio tricks and technology we have today the closest we can produce is Harry Connick Jr. and while he is a decent piano player, he's no Darin/Sinatra in the vocal department.
He just can't read a lyric like those guys can.

Overall, talent shines through........


So now I duck as the (c)rap, hip-hop,etc, cut and paste looper noise makers come to life trying to convince me and others that what they do is *creative* and *musical*.

Sorry...
Most of it is noise.....
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Old 27th August 2006, 02:13 AM   #3
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IMHO Bobby Darin has always been highly underated.
He's got a style all his own, like Sinatra, and it's not so much his pipes but his phrasing that makes the songs come alive.
Kinda like Sinatra..
I was listening to a live recording of Bobby Darin singing "Beyond the Sea" and the guitar player is vamping really fast, pushing pretty hard BUT he's also playing with an incredible easiness that I think you don't hear too much nowadays.

To me, it's the easiness of that guitar part that really gives the song the mood. It would have been ok had he just pushed, but the fact that he knew to play it the way he did gave it the real magic.

I tend to think of Darin the way you say; like Sinatra in that he's not a vocal superman (like, maybe Tom Jones!) but yeah, it's his vocal styling that sets him apart.
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Old 27th August 2006, 02:34 AM   #5
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I was listening to a live recording of Bobby Darin singing "Beyond the Sea" and the guitar player is vamping really fast, pushing pretty hard BUT he's also playing with an incredible easiness that I think you don't hear too much nowadays.

To me, it's the easiness of that guitar part that really gives the song the mood. It would have been ok had he just pushed, but the fact that he knew to play it the way he did gave it the real magic.

I tend to think of Darin the way you say; like Sinatra in that he's not a vocal superman (like, maybe Tom Jones!) but yeah, it's his vocal styling that sets him apart.

Yea.
I've played piano with a number of bigbands and the one thing that amazed me the most is the guitar players.
Here they are playing these 9ths, 13ths and other weird chords with their fingers stretched all over the frets yet they make it sound and look effortless.
It's one of the crucial parts of the rh ythm section that holds the tunes together.
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