Waves SSl Versus UAD Neve:Samples included!

Rednose · 15th August 2006, 11:55 PM

I did a test between Waves SSl and UAD Neve 1073 eqs.
Stereo guitar, similar eqs.
I didn't use very much eq becuase the tracks didn't need it.
To me they both sound excelent, maybe the UAD has an edge on the warmer side.
You decide. Seagull on the left, Taylor on the right. Rode NT1, DBX 160 VU, Event emp 1 preamp.

Track 1: No EQ

Track 2: SSL Waves

Track 3: UAD 1073

GL Respect Due · 16th August 2006, 01:00 AM

SSL: Increased high mid, sharper, a little more open.
Neve: Increased low mid, darker, smoother (even).

Both sounded fine to my ears.

I'd use the Neve plug on this particular track though if it were me. I like how it softened the accoustic.

3rdeyeKnight · 16th August 2006, 08:06 AM

^^that's a pretty good description for both. I totally agree.

84K · 16th August 2006, 08:22 AM

I agree with the description but not completely with the choice. The ac guitars alone, yeah the Neve sounds fuller and rounder. But if you add a bass guitar in there and/or other instruments/voice, I bet the SSL version would cut much better in a mix. So in the case of a full song, I would probably pick the SSL. YMMV

WilliamFF · 16th August 2006, 08:43 AM

I think the original clip sounded the best...the other tracks sounded to me like the plug ins chocked some of the high end, making the overtones a bit shrill...

I would imagine there will be an imminent danger of muddyness on the UAD and Waves track as soon as you start to stack up other instruments..

Nice guitar though !

Rednose · 16th August 2006, 12:09 PM

kewl, thanks for taking the time to listen.
I do like the No EQ one too for the mix.
When I get time, I'll try to post something with more tracks.
Matt

GL Respect Due · 16th August 2006, 04:39 PM

I found the unprocessed track to be muddy, lacking. As far as color build up, you could be right, but I like texture and lots of it. Definately a subjective type deal.

SoundUniverse · 16th August 2006, 05:40 PM

I really liked the fullness of the UAD although, the SSL was damn good too! What frequencies are you mainly cutting/boosting and was it exactly the same on each SSL/UAD?

Rednose · 17th August 2006, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundUniverse

I really liked the fullness of the UAD although, the SSL was damn good too! What frequencies are you mainly cutting/boosting and was it exactly the same on each SSL/UAD?

Don't have it in fron of me, but low shelf at 100, bosted 110, cut 360, boosted top end.
The UAD doesn't have a parametric for the high end.
I belive its 12k?

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15th August 2006, 11:55 PM	#1
Rednose Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 533	Waves SSl Versus UAD Neve:Samples included! I did a test between Waves SSl and UAD Neve 1073 eqs. Stereo guitar, similar eqs. I didn't use very much eq becuase the tracks didn't need it. To me they both sound excelent, maybe the UAD has an edge on the warmer side. You decide. Seagull on the left, Taylor on the right. Rode NT1, DBX 160 VU, Event emp 1 preamp. Track 1: No EQ Track 2: SSL Waves Track 3: UAD 1073 __________________ www.sonicpalacemusic.com www.myspace.com/sonicpalace

16th August 2006, 08:06 AM	#3
3rdeyeKnight Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 367	^^that's a pretty good description for both. I totally agree. __________________ -ignorance is not a trend-

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Rednose Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 533	kewl, thanks for taking the time to listen. I do like the No EQ one too for the mix. When I get time, I'll try to post something with more tracks. Matt __________________ www.sonicpalacemusic.com www.myspace.com/sonicpalace

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16th August 2006, 01:00 AM	#2
GL Respect Due Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wally World, AR Posts: 523	SSL: Increased high mid, sharper, a little more open. Neve: Increased low mid, darker, smoother (even). Both sounded fine to my ears. I'd use the Neve plug on this particular track though if it were me. I like how it softened the accoustic.

16th August 2006, 08:22 AM	#4
84K Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: right coast Posts: 3,769	I agree with the description but not completely with the choice. The ac guitars alone, yeah the Neve sounds fuller and rounder. But if you add a bass guitar in there and/or other instruments/voice, I bet the SSL version would cut much better in a mix. So in the case of a full song, I would probably pick the SSL. YMMV

16th August 2006, 08:43 AM	#5
WilliamFF Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 103	I think the original clip sounded the best...the other tracks sounded to me like the plug ins chocked some of the high end, making the overtones a bit shrill... I would imagine there will be an imminent danger of muddyness on the UAD and Waves track as soon as you start to stack up other instruments.. Nice guitar though !

16th August 2006, 04:39 PM	#7
GL Respect Due Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wally World, AR Posts: 523	I found the unprocessed track to be muddy, lacking. As far as color build up, you could be right, but I like texture and lots of it. Definately a subjective type deal.

16th August 2006, 05:40 PM	#8
SoundUniverse Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle,wa Posts: 351	I really liked the fullness of the UAD although, the SSL was damn good too! What frequencies are you mainly cutting/boosting and was it exactly the same on each SSL/UAD?