Mixed in the Box Billboard #1

DECKERATOR · 9th August 2006, 05:15 AM

Hey all, awhile back I remember reading a thread about mixed in the box singles on major labels, and or the radio. Well, an artist I mixed named Rodney Atkins on Curb just went #1 in Billboard this week on the country singles chart, and last week his album debuted at #1 on the country album chart (#3 on the Billboard 200). I mixed the single and 9 of the 10 on the record 100% in protools HD. No outboard gear or summing boxes, and I even "bounced to disk" 24/48k,(which was sent out to be mastered).

just mix it!!!
Billy Decker

True North · 9th August 2006, 05:29 AM

Hey, First off and most importantly congrats on your success.

Second, thanks for having the cajonezz to come on this board to talk about how you mixed the album.

Third, how about sharing how you made the mix work; what program/daw, which plugs, track count, general techniques (i.e. paralell comp etc...)

Did you track the album as well? if not do you know if the person who tracked the instruments used any outboard 'going to DAW' or did he/she go to tape?

Can you post any samples for us?

Cheers and I wish you continued sucess!!

Solar · 9th August 2006, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

Hey, First off and most importantly congrats on your success.

Second, thanks for having the cajonezz to come on this board to talk about how you mixed the album.

Third, how about sharing how you made the mix work; what program/daw, which plugs, track count, general techniques (i.e. paralell comp etc...)

Did you track the album as well? if not do you know if the person who tracked the instruments used any outboard 'going to DAW' or did he/she go to tape?

Can you post any samples for us?

Cheers and I wish you continued sucess!!

Congrats Mr "DECKERATOR" and secondly i must say that i agree with "True North", please share!

Thanx

Jamz · 9th August 2006, 06:01 AM

Well done and Congrats!

Rednose · 9th August 2006, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DECKERATOR

Hey all, awhile back I remember reading a thread about mixed in the box singles on major labels, and or the radio. Well, an artist I mixed named Rodney Atkins on Curb just went #1 in Billboard this week on the country singles chart, and last week his album debuted at #1 on the country album chart (#3 on the Billboard 200). I mixed the single and 9 of the 10 on the record 100% in protools HD. No outboard gear or summing boxes, and I even "bounced to disk" 24/48k,(which was sent out to be mastered).

just mix it!!!
Billy Decker

Congrats mang, thats great news for you, and for us ITB dudies!

Loudnoize ent. · 9th August 2006, 06:32 AM

Cheers Decker!!!

severe · 9th August 2006, 06:36 AM

Congrats and welcome to the forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DECKERATOR

just mix it!!!

And never have truer words been spoken.

...almost makes up for the bounce-to-disk part.

djui5 · 9th August 2006, 07:44 AM

Nice!!

David Brown · 9th August 2006, 04:00 PM

Congrats. A little good news for a change.

David Brown

DECKERATOR · 9th August 2006, 04:26 PM

Thanx for the kind words gents. No I did not track the song or the album. i have been very blessed: for the last five years all i have done is mix 5 days a week. That's what I wanted to do, so when I had enough mix work, I started farming out the tracking dates and the od's. When I am not mixing records, I keep really busy mixing song demos. Here in Nashville, there are a bunch of demos being recorded every day. I drop my kids at school and get to the studio at 8am. I am usually done closing mixes with the clients by 5, or 6pm, which then lets me get home to see the family. The best advice that was given to me by a producer here in town was, "mixing is about balance.....so is life".

Enough philosophy, the track count for most of what I do consists of drums, bass, acu gtr's, elec gtrs, stl, fid, pno and vox's. People say that Nashville has some of the best session musicians around, so the sounds are usually all pretty good. Same for alot of the tracking guys (and gals) around here. With that being said, I almost always use templates that I drag the audio into and start the mix from. I don't use an assistant, so my templates act as such. i don't have to spend an hour assigning verbs, and compressors etc. I use a drum sub that I buss the entire kit out to usually that has a comp and a limiter on. I'll set it to 4:1 and knock it back about 2-3 db, slow attack, fast release. The limiter I'll not actually atenuate at all, just run it through it cause I like the darkness it adds. I dont use much 2-buss compression, rather I squeeze more of the individual tracks. I did just get the waves ssl bundle and sometimes I'll hit the mix with the buss compressor (slowest attack possible, fastest release possible). I almost always default to those settings. Fast attacks always seem to cut off too much of the transients for me. I like to use bomb factory 1176's and la3a's. Urs api eq's bumped at 3k and 5k on elecs work great. The main eq I use on almost everything is metric halo's channel strip. I also use a ton of sample's, not to fully replace drum hits, but to supplement. Other than that, it's waves reverb, echo farm delay's and a few L1's and L'2's here and there.

One cool thing we have been doing (since I am 100% in the box), is to actually take the Pro Tool rig to mastering (the 192, computer and the keyboard-mouse). I will fire the tune off in real time locked to their master clock, and make any last minute moves for the artist and producer. This allows us to maybe raise the bass, or de-ess a single word, rather than eq or de-ess an entire 2-mix. It also gives the producer and artist a chance to make any last minute tweaks, and helps to really give the album a cohesive feel ( equal vox levels, low end etc). SinceIi mix with a mouse (I have 48 channels of pro control, but use it as a volume pot only), having the stripped down rig is no big deal.

I hope this wasn't too much bla, bla, bla. Time to mix. I am doing a hybrid/dance mix on Steve Holy's "Brand new Girlfriend"(Curb). It's at #5 on the country singles chart this week, and the label is hoping this new mix will give it a few extra spins at radio. Who know's, with a little luck maybe we'll get another #1 (I bounced it to disk too).

just mix it!!!

Billy Decker

whosyourdaddy00 · 9th August 2006, 04:39 PM

congrats indeed, i'm about 45 mins south of ya, and yes them union cats are on point! we do alotta print and dupe for all kinds of ppl in town, and it's good to see you're dooin' it ITB! NTS Pro Media (right across the street from ya, i believe) has a little 'room' setup for our little opporation (Printertainment)....we do alotta Hal Katchum (sp?) promo print for Curb.....drop me a line if you need promo print or dupe....

sorry for the shameless plug, i'm hopin' some of the success will rub off on me i guess! lol

cheers

chris

not_so_new · 9th August 2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DECKERATOR

Thanx for the kind words gents. No I did not track the song or the album. i have been very blessed: for the last five years all i have done is mix 5 days a week. That's what I wanted to do, so when I had enough mix work, I started farming out the tracking dates and the od's. When I am not mixing records, I keep really busy mixing song demos. Here in Nashville, there are a bunch of demos being recorded every day. I drop my kids at school and get to the studio at 8am. I am usually done closing mixes with the clients by 5, or 6pm, which then lets me get home to see the family. The best advice that was given to me by a producer here in town was, "mixing is about balance.....so is life".

Ahhhh the dream of my life... well maybe not the kids part, I am not too good with kids.

Mixing for a living would be heaven for me and this is coming from an atheist... LOL

Thanks for sharing with us Billy and welcome to GS!

True North · 9th August 2006, 05:24 PM

Hey Billy,

Thanks for taking the time. Definitely not too much blah, blah - I enjoyed reading it. Can you tell us anything more about your template set up. The more details the better.

What do you use to replace drum sounds on your rig?

What do you like for sounds and samples on drums (i.e. BFD, private collection etc..)

Thanks again for sharing, cheers!

Harsh · 9th August 2006, 05:34 PM

Do you mind sharing what compressors you are using ITB.

gsharp · 9th August 2006, 06:51 PM

The album might have debuted at #2 or #1 on the 200 if only you'd mixed at 96 k thru a summing box. Oh well. Next time.

rolo95 · 9th August 2006, 07:04 PM

Congrats man....
keep the good work...
Rolo.

severe · 9th August 2006, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harsh

Do you mind sharing what compressors you are using ITB.

Here.

Quote:

I did just get the waves ssl bundle and sometimes I'll hit the mix with the buss compressor (slowest attack possible, fastest release possible). I almost always default to those settings. Fast attacks always seem to cut off too much of the transients for me. I like to use bomb factory 1176's and la3a's.

Mistadschan · 9th August 2006, 10:29 PM

Man! Billy!

I can NOT believe it.

Just bought this album the other day!
I LOVE that sound!
Songs are great to me.
I like that short Brent Mason session they did.
Troy Lancaster, too!

Anyway, I really got into listening to Country over the past year.
I mean the BIG BUDGET HIGH END Country Records..

Like the Martina McBride Record in (John's Blackbird) VINTAGE Flavour (99% analog Production!)
as well as the new Rick Rubin Dixies..
Most Mainstream "Pop-Country" as well. Dan Huff things,
Brooks&Dunn, Big&Rich and most of the classics (christofferson e.g.), too.

Bottom Line: Rodney (and your mixes, of course) DO TOUCH me sonically as much as the (sound-wise) No.1 of the past 10 years: McBride!

From now on: just mix it!!

(before that, i thought, ITB-Masters can do damn "Livin' la vida" AT MOST)

Gonna walk into the night now with "If you're Goin' through hell" on my ears...
(320kbit of course

)

THANK YOU,

MD

**Jules** · 9th August 2006, 11:56 PM

Great!

chriscoleman · 10th August 2006, 01:33 AM

As if mixing ITB weren't enough, he says this...

Quote:

I mix with a mouse (I have 48 channels of pro control, but use it as a volume pot only)

Nice. Congrats, Billy.

Loudnoize ent. · 10th August 2006, 01:54 AM

Not to start a 44k versus 48k debate

, Billy do you ever record/mix 24/44k? Just curious... and if not, why?

Thanks!

DECKERATOR · 10th August 2006, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsharp

The album might have debuted at #2 or #1 on the 200 if only you'd mixed at 96 k thru a summing box. Oh well. Next time.

gsharp, i just mixed carolyn dawn johnson's new record and she was adamant about using a summing box. justin neibank lent me his folcrom, with neve pre's, but that combo wasn't right for this record. we tried the tubetech and it smeared too much, as well as the api. what did work and really sounded good was the new neve summing box. i mix really hot, so the input level controls were a plus!

just mix it!!!
Billy Decker

gsharp · 10th August 2006, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DECKERATOR

gsharp, i just mixed carolyn dawn johnson's new record and she was adamant about using a summing box. justin neibank lent me his folcrom, with neve pre's, but that combo wasn't right for this record. we tried the tubetech and it smeared too much, as well as the api. what did work and really sounded good was the new neve summing box. i mix really hot, so the input level controls were a plus!

just mix it!!!
Billy Decker

CDJ wants to squeak out those extra 2 positions on the album chart!!

Seriously though, thank you so much for the insight into your process. Please do tell us more. Would you not have used a summing box if Carolyn didn't insist? What do you mean when you say you mix hot? Do you run different fader levels when ITB vs. OTB? Why didn't you use a summing box on Rodney's record?

I got a billion more questions but I'll let you answer these first.

Thanks,

G

DECKERATOR · 10th August 2006, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

What do you use to replace drum sounds on your rig?

What do you like for sounds and samples on drums (i.e. BFD, private collection etc..)

Thanks again for sharing, cheers!

I use soundreplacer, aptrigga, and i just bought drumagog. As far as samples go, there is a session drummer named lonnie wilson who has let me sample his kick and snare. Sometimes i'll sample the snare from the song i'm working on, and then supplement the real with it's own re-eq'd and compressed sample. for the most part though, i've made my own samples.

just mix it!!!
billy decker

DECKERATOR · 10th August 2006, 03:07 AM

gsharp, for this new george jones tribute album i'm mixing the producer (billy joe walker jr.) wants to print to 1/2 inch as well as bouncing to disk. so i guess the answer to your question is whatever the client wants. alot of my stuff gets mastered by andrew mendelson at georgetown masters. i'm not sure how he does it but he is able to take my "in the box" mixes and make em sound like they are running thru a summing box. if my mixes looked like a rectangle before mastering, then after they look like an oval. does that make any sense? he is able to soften them (for lack of a better term). that's why i don't worry too much about the summing or the bounce to disk dilema.

on rodney's record we tried the summing box but it didn't sound as "punchy" as the digital bounce, so we left it alone. by the way, it came in 24/48k so that's where it stayed until the end. if it comes in 24/44, or at 96k, i'll usually leave it alone, unless there are a ton of tracks, then i will go to 48 from 96 for processing reasons.

just mix it!!!
billy decker

gsharp · 10th August 2006, 03:20 AM

So do you get into the mix ITB and then try the (or a) summing box and see if its an improvement or do you mix into a summer and if its not working go back ITB?

Do you ever use outboard comps and eq's?

DECKERATOR · 10th August 2006, 03:42 AM

i will mix first, then turn on the summing box and see if it's an improvement. i've been told that that is the wrong way to do it, but i can't get into mixing thru them. i don't use outboard gear for the simple reason of recallability. i bounce back and forth from one project to the next often, so being able to just snap it back up works best for me. for example, today i tweaked out a steve holy remix, then printed tv and trk mixes for a reba and kenny chesney duet. mixed two for the george jones tribute album, and started a pop mix for an artist with a development deal. the neve summing box works the best for just plugging it in at the end of the mix.

just mix it!!!
billy decker

oh yeah, almost forgot, i use mackie speakers with a quested sub. i have tried every speaker known to man, and i just keep coming back to the mackies. i do have a $100.00 boom box with line ins that i have hooked up to the alt pot on the pro control (real high tech huh!)

redddog · 10th August 2006, 03:53 AM

This is freakin' fascinating.

Keep going Billy! This is just what the doctor ordered. You may be pissing off a lot of the analogue-or-die slutz but I find this to be confirmation that you can get it with any of the tools we have now - digital or otherwise. Thank you. Now can we just go and f-ing record?

Cheers and congratulations!

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DECKERATOR Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 80	Mixed in the Box Billboard #1 Hey all, awhile back I remember reading a thread about mixed in the box singles on major labels, and or the radio. Well, an artist I mixed named Rodney Atkins on Curb just went #1 in Billboard this week on the country singles chart, and last week his album debuted at #1 on the country album chart (#3 on the Billboard 200). I mixed the single and 9 of the 10 on the record 100% in protools HD. No outboard gear or summing boxes, and I even "bounced to disk" 24/48k,(which was sent out to be mastered). just mix it!!! Billy Decker

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True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,461	Hey, First off and most importantly congrats on your success. Second, thanks for having the cajonezz to come on this board to talk about how you mixed the album. Third, how about sharing how you made the mix work; what program/daw, which plugs, track count, general techniques (i.e. paralell comp etc...) Did you track the album as well? if not do you know if the person who tracked the instruments used any outboard 'going to DAW' or did he/she go to tape? Can you post any samples for us? Cheers and I wish you continued sucess!! __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

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David Brown Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 91	Congrats. A little good news for a change. David Brown

9th August 2006, 04:26 PM	#10
DECKERATOR Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 80	Thanx for the kind words gents. No I did not track the song or the album. i have been very blessed: for the last five years all i have done is mix 5 days a week. That's what I wanted to do, so when I had enough mix work, I started farming out the tracking dates and the od's. When I am not mixing records, I keep really busy mixing song demos. Here in Nashville, there are a bunch of demos being recorded every day. I drop my kids at school and get to the studio at 8am. I am usually done closing mixes with the clients by 5, or 6pm, which then lets me get home to see the family. The best advice that was given to me by a producer here in town was, "mixing is about balance.....so is life". Enough philosophy, the track count for most of what I do consists of drums, bass, acu gtr's, elec gtrs, stl, fid, pno and vox's. People say that Nashville has some of the best session musicians around, so the sounds are usually all pretty good. Same for alot of the tracking guys (and gals) around here. With that being said, I almost always use templates that I drag the audio into and start the mix from. I don't use an assistant, so my templates act as such. i don't have to spend an hour assigning verbs, and compressors etc. I use a drum sub that I buss the entire kit out to usually that has a comp and a limiter on. I'll set it to 4:1 and knock it back about 2-3 db, slow attack, fast release. The limiter I'll not actually atenuate at all, just run it through it cause I like the darkness it adds. I dont use much 2-buss compression, rather I squeeze more of the individual tracks. I did just get the waves ssl bundle and sometimes I'll hit the mix with the buss compressor (slowest attack possible, fastest release possible). I almost always default to those settings. Fast attacks always seem to cut off too much of the transients for me. I like to use bomb factory 1176's and la3a's. Urs api eq's bumped at 3k and 5k on elecs work great. The main eq I use on almost everything is metric halo's channel strip. I also use a ton of sample's, not to fully replace drum hits, but to supplement. Other than that, it's waves reverb, echo farm delay's and a few L1's and L'2's here and there. One cool thing we have been doing (since I am 100% in the box), is to actually take the Pro Tool rig to mastering (the 192, computer and the keyboard-mouse). I will fire the tune off in real time locked to their master clock, and make any last minute moves for the artist and producer. This allows us to maybe raise the bass, or de-ess a single word, rather than eq or de-ess an entire 2-mix. It also gives the producer and artist a chance to make any last minute tweaks, and helps to really give the album a cohesive feel ( equal vox levels, low end etc). SinceIi mix with a mouse (I have 48 channels of pro control, but use it as a volume pot only), having the stripped down rig is no big deal. I hope this wasn't too much bla, bla, bla. Time to mix. I am doing a hybrid/dance mix on Steve Holy's "Brand new Girlfriend"(Curb). It's at #5 on the country singles chart this week, and the label is hoping this new mix will give it a few extra spins at radio. Who know's, with a little luck maybe we'll get another #1 (I bounced it to disk too). just mix it!!! Billy Decker

9th August 2006, 05:24 PM	#13
True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,461	Hey Billy, Thanks for taking the time. Definitely not too much blah, blah - I enjoyed reading it. Can you tell us anything more about your template set up. The more details the better. What do you use to replace drum sounds on your rig? What do you like for sounds and samples on drums (i.e. BFD, private collection etc..) Thanks again for sharing, cheers! __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

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gsharp Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 556	The album might have debuted at #2 or #1 on the 200 if only you'd mixed at 96 k thru a summing box. Oh well. Next time.

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Mistadschan Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany, Bonn Posts: 16	Oh boy.... Man! Billy! I can NOT believe it. Just bought this album the other day! I LOVE that sound! Songs are great to me. I like that short Brent Mason session they did. Troy Lancaster, too! Anyway, I really got into listening to Country over the past year. I mean the BIG BUDGET HIGH END Country Records.. Like the Martina McBride Record in (John's Blackbird) VINTAGE Flavour (99% analog Production!) as well as the new Rick Rubin Dixies.. Most Mainstream "Pop-Country" as well. Dan Huff things, Brooks&Dunn, Big&Rich and most of the classics (christofferson e.g.), too. Bottom Line: Rodney (and your mixes, of course) DO TOUCH me sonically as much as the (sound-wise) No.1 of the past 10 years: McBride! From now on: just mix it!! (before that, i thought, ITB-Masters can do damn "Livin' la vida" AT MOST) Gonna walk into the night now with "If you're Goin' through hell" on my ears... (320kbit of course ) THANK YOU, MD

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DECKERATOR Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 80	gsharp, for this new george jones tribute album i'm mixing the producer (billy joe walker jr.) wants to print to 1/2 inch as well as bouncing to disk. so i guess the answer to your question is whatever the client wants. alot of my stuff gets mastered by andrew mendelson at georgetown masters. i'm not sure how he does it but he is able to take my "in the box" mixes and make em sound like they are running thru a summing box. if my mixes looked like a rectangle before mastering, then after they look like an oval. does that make any sense? he is able to soften them (for lack of a better term). that's why i don't worry too much about the summing or the bounce to disk dilema. on rodney's record we tried the summing box but it didn't sound as "punchy" as the digital bounce, so we left it alone. by the way, it came in 24/48k so that's where it stayed until the end. if it comes in 24/44, or at 96k, i'll usually leave it alone, unless there are a ton of tracks, then i will go to 48 from 96 for processing reasons. just mix it!!! billy decker

10th August 2006, 03:20 AM	#26
gsharp Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 556	So do you get into the mix ITB and then try the (or a) summing box and see if its an improvement or do you mix into a summer and if its not working go back ITB? Do you ever use outboard comps and eq's?

10th August 2006, 03:42 AM	#27
DECKERATOR Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 80	i will mix first, then turn on the summing box and see if it's an improvement. i've been told that that is the wrong way to do it, but i can't get into mixing thru them. i don't use outboard gear for the simple reason of recallability. i bounce back and forth from one project to the next often, so being able to just snap it back up works best for me. for example, today i tweaked out a steve holy remix, then printed tv and trk mixes for a reba and kenny chesney duet. mixed two for the george jones tribute album, and started a pop mix for an artist with a development deal. the neve summing box works the best for just plugging it in at the end of the mix. just mix it!!! billy decker oh yeah, almost forgot, i use mackie speakers with a quested sub. i have tried every speaker known to man, and i just keep coming back to the mackies. i do have a $100.00 boom box with line ins that i have hooked up to the alt pot on the pro control (real high tech huh!)

10th August 2006, 03:53 AM	#28
redddog Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,333	This is freakin' fascinating. Keep going Billy! This is just what the doctor ordered. You may be pissing off a lot of the analogue-or-die slutz but I find this to be confirmation that you can get it with any of the tools we have now - digital or otherwise. Thank you. Now can we just go and f-ing record? Cheers and congratulations!