Waves SSL and Duende SSL: both from the same company?! - Page 2

newrigel · 12th October 2009

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Originally Posted by andymixer

tried the duende with a couple buddies the other day. Quite frankly it sounds like complete ass. Haven't tried the waves bundle yet but since the renaissance eq and compressor still sound a million times better than that waste of space after all these years, i can only imagine how much better the waves engineered clones must sound. Don't waste a cent on it. Ssl can't make digital stuff to save their life. Hmmmm, must be why they hired waves in the first place. I know it's tempting to pull up something that says ssl on it while you mix, but really, that company needs to stop getting ridiculous amounts of money for their name and realize that they can't survive selling great equipment for ridiculous prices (the analogue stuff), and can't sell shit with their name on it and expect everyone to treat it as brilliant.

lol! Pure bs!

beanface · 12th October 2009

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Originally Posted by andrewj

sorry, but there are still people working with the C-consoles and get great results!

Perhaps the original G-Series Compressor is nicer than Duende, but Duende is still far away from sounding like your ass!

To Audiomichael: Yes you are right and I will try the waves SSL Bundle when I have a DAW it works on. Have you tried Duende already?

Wow, I'm shocked that so many people are having so much hassle with the W-SSL bundle! It's run perfectly under Sequoia 10, Nuendo 4 & Reaper 3. Same goes with the API bundle. Has anyone had probs with the API bundle under any particular hosts?

P.S: After spending *many* an hour on SSL, MTA & Trident consoles, I can assure whomever it may concern, the Duende does not sound like ass, it sounds like bollocks - the bollocks.

hipass · 12th October 2009

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Originally Posted by newrigel

Oh wow! The Beatles use an 8 track to record their best album...
Relax... and take a deep breath

That's because the best system available was 8 track in 1968.
Love and all the remasters were done on todays best system available - Protools HD
Back on topic - Duende is very buggy and has far too much latency to used is pro situations
Waves SSL has only 3 samples of latency.

Heartfelt · 12th October 2009

I love my Duende PCIe. I am in version II and don't plan to upgrade any time soon. It is rock solid and does a fantastic job.

I don't have to pay a WUP either.

I still am running 2005 Renn plugs, unupdated plugs, in rebellion to Waves.
Rob

NoamLavi · 25th December 2011

i'v been using the SSL by Waves, SSL and UAD and i have to say 2 things.

Waves: SSL eq suck ass but their bus Comp is the winner out them all!

UAD: SSL channel the eq is AMAZZING but the comp ENV has 2 settings: to fast or to slow... doesn't cut it really but worth for the eq alone.
UAD: SSL Bus comp don't suck but doesn't really add nothing special.

Duende (native): pretty much the same deal as the UAD... comp doesn't add nothing special but the EQ on the channel is amazing. the comp on their channel is not bad better then the UAD

none of them is perfect but if you ask me what i can't give up is the bus comp by Waves... (i'm just a comp *****). but hey the eq's by UAD and Nuende are really the best in the biz... reminds me of the NEVE eq's by UAD.
haven't heard anything like it in the native form...

if anyone know of a vst eq that sounds like these eq's i'd love to know!!

icecubeman · 25th December 2011

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Originally Posted by Farshad

He said several of his clients had told him this rumor: "Waves has developed the SSL plugins for both their company and Duende! The reason that we are seeing them as different products is that they think this competition helps the marketing and also it could help to sell some mandatory hardwares as well (Duende)!"

I think this can't be true. Waves SSL Channels are horrible, check hi mid and low mid on these

. Duende is completely different sounding emulation. Much more transparent. UAD's SSL are also different from Waves but not so much from Duende but I dont think UAD made Duende emulations. IMO Duende sounds much better than Waves and slightly better than UAD.

icecubeman · 25th December 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoamLavi

reminds me of the NEVE eq's by UAD.
haven't heard anything like it in the native form...

Check CDsoundmaster N-TEN-AT4 plugins you will be very surprised...

**George Necola** · 25th December 2011

What was this thread about? I guess the problem is that we are all hobbists. The masters are too busy to respond.

Stop it.

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FreshSkweez · 25th December 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Necola

What was this thread about? I guess the problem is that we are all hobbists. The masters are too busy to respond.

Stop it.

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True dat.

Magucci · 25th December 2011

Waves SSL plugins are not as good as SSL Duende. That's my point of view.

Tube World · 26th December 2011

The Waves SSL E Channel has a more aggressive character than the G Channel. The G channel strip has a smoother character which is closer to the sound of the UAD SSL channel strip. Depending on the situation the E Channel may be a better fit compared to the G Channel. However I find myself liking the G Channel more.

12th October 2009	#34
Heartfelt Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,434	I love my Duende PCIe. I am in version II and don't plan to upgrade any time soon. It is rock solid and does a fantastic job. I don't have to pay a WUP either. I still am running 2005 Renn plugs, unupdated plugs, in rebellion to Waves. Rob __________________ Robert Smith Houston, TX www.RobertSmithMusic.com

25th December 2011	#35
NoamLavi Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 26	guys guys i'v been using the SSL by Waves, SSL and UAD and i have to say 2 things. Waves: SSL eq suck ass but their bus Comp is the winner out them all! UAD: SSL channel the eq is AMAZZING but the comp ENV has 2 settings: to fast or to slow... doesn't cut it really but worth for the eq alone. UAD: SSL Bus comp don't suck but doesn't really add nothing special. Duende (native): pretty much the same deal as the UAD... comp doesn't add nothing special but the EQ on the channel is amazing. the comp on their channel is not bad better then the UAD none of them is perfect but if you ask me what i can't give up is the bus comp by Waves... (i'm just a comp *****). but hey the eq's by UAD and Nuende are really the best in the biz... reminds me of the NEVE eq's by UAD. haven't heard anything like it in the native form... if anyone know of a vst eq that sounds like these eq's i'd love to know!!

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Magucci Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 123	Waves SSL plugins are not as good as SSL Duende. That's my point of view.

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