Any 'no nukes' here? R U clinically compressed?

Jules · 25th October 2003

Any one recording drum room mic's uncompressed? And doing it later..... ?

I just tried this and think I may be digging the flexibility at mixdown time...

I might have been suffering from clinical compression!

Discuss.....

imacgreg · 25th October 2003

Always have a pair of unprocessed AT LDC's as room mics, but also use a Tele U47 in front of the kit, usually about 2-3 ft from kick drum, down low. It goes thru a 1176 all buttons in.

Ian

Steve Smith · 25th October 2003

it totally depends.. If it it not a componet part of the tracks vibe, i will usally go uncompressed, but it never feels the same for me, compressing a playback vs compressing the pre output... Botyh ways can sound great, but I am saying that if I am lookng for heavily compd room mics at tracking, I track it that way.

Steve Smith · 25th October 2003

To Clarify, lest I find myself flat on my ass with slipper prints on my forehead....

If I ain't mixing, I ain't mixing. IF the mix guy thinks something left out that i wlould have left in, they would have hired me to mix it.. or him to track it , right?

Drumsound · 25th October 2003

I don't compres the room mic much ever. They are sent to the drum-sub compressor during the mix. I like the sound of omni mics about 6-7 feet out at waist height.

petermeechanuk · 25th October 2003

Whenever recording with very high ratios,- I always record both compressed AND uncompressed . I normally do this with rooms and snare.

When using a nuke setting I find the resulting signal better when compressed on the way in. However it's not always what I (or the mix engineer if different) want in the mix so I can then go back top to the uncompressed signal and try a more subtle setting.

More often than not when mixing, I'll use both compressed and uncompressed in some blended form.

-Peter

doug_hti · 25th October 2003

Yes, most of the time. The drums are tracked elsewhere with no compression or EQ. I will almost always add compression to overheads, even if it's only a little.

**Remoteness** · 25th October 2003

Usually I never compress when tracking, but will always EQ.

I add compress (if applicable) to the tune when mixing.
It affords me (and/or whoever's mixing) more options.

Jay Kahrs · 27th October 2003

I usually compress room mics a bit when tracking. Sometimes it's really light, small ratios just to even it out. Other times I'm going for the 1176 all-in. A few weeks ago I tracked an EP and used no compression on the stereo room mics. Didn't compress 'em on the mix either. Go figure.

One of the things I've been playing around with recently is using a close room and a far room mic. So far it seems to be working best with an omni as the close mic with a bit of compression and something really trashy, like an SM57 right into an 1176 for the far room. Put 'em in mono or spread 'em out to 10 & 2.

patrox247 · 27th October 2003

If there are some Fairchilds or Vari-Mu's around I'll make an exception.Otherwise it's O-NATURAL.

Jam · 27th October 2003

For me I always record o/hs nuked but then I am the producer mixer and client most of the times these days and I'm a huge fan of my own work ( LOL )

Jam

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25th October 2003	#1
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Joined: Apr 2002 Location: A Yank in London, UK Posts: 17,808 Thread Starter 1 Review written	Any 'no nukes' here? R U clinically compressed? Any one recording drum room mic's uncompressed? And doing it later..... ? I just tried this and think I may be digging the flexibility at mixdown time... I might have been suffering from clinical compression! Discuss..... __________________ Jules Add your reviews to the new reviews area! Gearslutz on Facebook Follow my GS picks on Twitter

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imacgreg Gear addict Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Echo Park, Los Angeles Posts: 444	Always have a pair of unprocessed AT LDC's as room mics, but also use a Tele U47 in front of the kit, usually about 2-3 ft from kick drum, down low. It goes thru a 1176 all buttons in. Ian __________________ ---------- Ian MacGregor http://twitter.com/#!/blackwatchsound www.standard-audio.com - Home of the Level-Or, 500 series Level-loc inspired limiter Visit Standard Audio on Facebook

25th October 2003	#3
Steve Smith Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,384	it totally depends.. If it it not a componet part of the tracks vibe, i will usally go uncompressed, but it never feels the same for me, compressing a playback vs compressing the pre output... Botyh ways can sound great, but I am saying that if I am lookng for heavily compd room mics at tracking, I track it that way. __________________ Steve Smith - Unorignal, yet commonplace.

25th October 2003	#5
Drumsound Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il Posts: 5,185	I don't compres the room mic much ever. They are sent to the drum-sub compressor during the mix. I like the sound of omni mics about 6-7 feet out at waist height. __________________ Tony Oxide Lounge Recording See the Oxide Lounge! Follow me on TWITTER! WWJMD? Come see me on the Tape Op boards! It's only inches on the reel to reel

25th October 2003	#6
petermeechanuk Gear Head Joined: Apr 2003 Location: NYC (Originally from London) Posts: 62	Whenever recording with very high ratios,- I always record both compressed AND uncompressed . I normally do this with rooms and snare. When using a nuke setting I find the resulting signal better when compressed on the way in. However it's not always what I (or the mix engineer if different) want in the mix so I can then go back top to the uncompressed signal and try a more subtle setting. More often than not when mixing, I'll use both compressed and uncompressed in some blended form. -Peter

25th October 2003	#7
doug_hti Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2002 Location: Calabasas, California Posts: 1,142	Yes, most of the time. The drums are tracked elsewhere with no compression or EQ. I will almost always add compression to overheads, even if it's only a little. __________________ doug

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Remoteness Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 7,405	Usually I never compress when tracking, but will always EQ. I add compress (if applicable) to the tune when mixing. It affords me (and/or whoever's mixing) more options. __________________ Steve Remote AuraSonicLtd.com the home of ASL Mobile & Location Production Remoteness on the Linkedin Network What about my Facebook Profile? Remoteness on Myspace

27th October 2003	#10
patrox247 Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Orange County California Posts: 1,700	If there are some Fairchilds or Vari-Mu's around I'll make an exception.Otherwise it's O-NATURAL.

27th October 2003	#11
Jam Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 1,463	For me I always record o/hs nuked but then I am the producer mixer and client most of the times these days and I'm a huge fan of my own work ( LOL ) Jam

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