Hip-hop/Rock Mastering

Oliver Hart · 24th October 2003, 08:54 PM

The music is hip-hop. (But it is generally more aggressive than any rap that's come out since like Run-Dmc)

I have taken previos products to very "high end" mastering houses (names need not be mentioned) and for the money, haven't been happy with the results. I don't expect the M.E. to make a shitty mix brilliant, but they sure as hell shouldn't make it worse!
That being said, All the guys I would trust at Bernie grundman are booked into december. I need november.

The reason I am posting here is I thought maybe some of you guys know somebody that I don't, that does a good job, but may not be as "famous" as some of the others. Price is not an issue.

Thanks a bunch.

Eyedea

jazzius II · 24th October 2003, 08:57 PM

I'd be happy to smack it upside the head for you.......

e-cue · 24th October 2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Hart
The reason I am posting here is I thought maybe some of you guys know somebody that I don't, that does a good job, but may not be as "famous" as some of the others. Price is not an issue.

Thanks a bunch.

Eyedea

I've said it here a million times: Oasis Mastering. Eddy and Gene over there are the best. Eddy might be a bit more difficult to book time with, but you'd be in good hands with Gene (he's done everyone from Transplants, Pennywise, and The Distrillers to Will.I.Am, The Liks, and Styles of Beyond). I prefer them over BG, although I think BG's output has gotten better in the last half year. Everyone I've sent over to Oasis has been happy thus far.

Jay Kahrs · 25th October 2003, 01:05 AM

Brad Blackwood. - bb@euphonicmasters.com

Never had a problem with anything I've sent him. It always comes back sounding the same or better.

Steve Smith · 25th October 2003, 01:55 AM

The last 2 post pretty much sum it up.

shikawkee · 25th October 2003, 02:45 AM

I've hired/worked with most of the top guys sans Ludwig and I can't tell you how impressed I am by Bob Olhsson's work. I am not blowing smoke. He just finished my latest project and as I told him it's easily the best sounding, most dynamic master I've encountered thus far. His attentiveness to detail and ears are astounding. Seriously. And affordable.

jazzius II · 25th October 2003, 08:02 AM

Wherever you go, make sure you know what you want before-hand.......some will leave it dynamic (Bob O?) while others would clip the living crap out of it.......get hold of a CD that you like the sound of and take that along as a loudness reference.......maybe the ME can reach it and maybe not (depends on the production/mix) .....but it will give a ball park idea and will prevent him from going in totally wrong direction (in your eyes).

NathanEldred · 25th October 2003, 08:52 AM

Oliver, check your private message box please. Thanks.

Jason Poulin · 25th October 2003, 04:52 PM

what do the prices usually run at? I know it differs but...

Let's say for a half decent ME per day? hour?

I'd like to send maybe two songs to get done up to the tits. Just so I can have as comparison of what I can do versus them.

It will be a good refference for futur clients that are too cheap to spend the extra coin to get the job done by the right person.

Maybe once they hear the difference, they'll make budget for it.

Thanks

Jason

e-cue · 25th October 2003, 05:14 PM

Oasis has been cool enough to do a song for free as a 'shootout' to see who's best in the past. Futuredisk used to do this too. It wouldn't hurt to ask.

Jason Poulin · 25th October 2003, 06:08 PM

Thanks e-cue

I just checked out their site... I think I will give them a try.

I tried getting a quote but I can't seem to connect with their server. Everytime I fill out the quote sheet, I get a long delay after I hit send and then I get the connection failure message.

I'll keep trying... worst case I'll call them.

That Eddy has quite the discographry.

Anyhow Thanks again e-cue

Jason

e-cue · 25th October 2003, 06:21 PM

Try Natasha at natasha@oasismastering.com

Jason Poulin · 25th October 2003, 11:44 PM

Thanks!

Jason

Oliver Hart · 27th October 2003, 12:34 AM

Thanks for all the replies. they have helped a lot.

-Oliver Smart

e-cue · 27th October 2003, 01:09 AM

Also, if you are delivering to mixes in a digital format, I highly suggest do them at 24 bit. I usually send 1/2' and 24 bit AIFF's. Most of the time they just go with the 1/2.

Jay Kahrs · 27th October 2003, 05:20 AM

Hopefully the ME will listen to both the analog and digital capture and use whichever one sounds better. It's weird, but I've had a few cases where for whatever reason the digital capture sounds better then the analog master. Strange but true. That's why it's damn important to have a mastering engineer you can trust, we as AE's can't always be at a mastering session so when the phone rings with a question it's nice to know that your on the same page as the person mastering your record.

It's been my experience that once clients hear the difference between mastered and unmastered they have no problem paying the money for it. The only question at that point is which ME do you pick and how much $$$ can be spent on mastering. If the goal is to get a real CD made with artwork and I'm the AE it has to be mastered, not negotible. End of story.

Seriously, give Brad a call or an email. He does great work, is a super cool guy and is also really affordable. Hell, I do a lot of indie rock and everyone knows those bands don't have money. If they can afford him...

splattercell · 27th October 2003, 02:26 PM

oliver et al,
i must also to mention ken lee / ken lee mastering, oakland california!
dt / spltrcl

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24th October 2003, 08:54 PM	#1
Oliver Hart Gear interested Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 23	Hip-hop/Rock Mastering The music is hip-hop. (But it is generally more aggressive than any rap that's come out since like Run-Dmc) I have taken previos products to very "high end" mastering houses (names need not be mentioned) and for the money, haven't been happy with the results. I don't expect the M.E. to make a shitty mix brilliant, but they sure as hell shouldn't make it worse! That being said, All the guys I would trust at Bernie grundman are booked into december. I need november. The reason I am posting here is I thought maybe some of you guys know somebody that I don't, that does a good job, but may not be as "famous" as some of the others. Price is not an issue. Thanks a bunch. Eyedea

25th October 2003, 01:55 AM	#5
Steve Smith Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,394	The last 2 post pretty much sum it up. __________________ Steve Smith - Unorignal, yet commonplace.

25th October 2003, 02:45 AM	#6
shikawkee Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,015	I've hired/worked with most of the top guys sans Ludwig and I can't tell you how impressed I am by Bob Olhsson's work. I am not blowing smoke. He just finished my latest project and as I told him it's easily the best sounding, most dynamic master I've encountered thus far. His attentiveness to detail and ears are astounding. Seriously. And affordable. __________________ "Lend me some sugar, I am your neighbor"- Andre 3000

25th October 2003, 08:52 AM	#8
NathanEldred Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 5,451	Oliver, check your private message box please. Thanks. __________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio Exclusive Worldwide Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear, Old School Audio (OSA), and Burgin McDaniel Design Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services

24th October 2003, 08:57 PM	#2
jazzius II Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,005	I'd be happy to smack it upside the head for you.......

25th October 2003, 08:02 AM	#7
jazzius II Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,005	Wherever you go, make sure you know what you want before-hand.......some will leave it dynamic (Bob O?) while others would clip the living crap out of it.......get hold of a CD that you like the sound of and take that along as a loudness reference.......maybe the ME can reach it and maybe not (depends on the production/mix) .....but it will give a ball park idea and will prevent him from going in totally wrong direction (in your eyes).

25th October 2003, 04:52 PM	#9
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	what do the prices usually run at? I know it differs but... Let's say for a half decent ME per day? hour? I'd like to send maybe two songs to get done up to the tits. Just so I can have as comparison of what I can do versus them. It will be a good refference for futur clients that are too cheap to spend the extra coin to get the job done by the right person. Maybe once they hear the difference, they'll make budget for it. Thanks Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

25th October 2003, 05:14 PM	#10
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,882	Oasis has been cool enough to do a song for free as a 'shootout' to see who's best in the past. Futuredisk used to do this too. It wouldn't hurt to ask.

25th October 2003, 06:08 PM	#11
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	Thanks e-cue I just checked out their site... I think I will give them a try. I tried getting a quote but I can't seem to connect with their server. Everytime I fill out the quote sheet, I get a long delay after I hit send and then I get the connection failure message. I'll keep trying... worst case I'll call them. That Eddy has quite the discographry. Anyhow Thanks again e-cue Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

25th October 2003, 06:21 PM	#12
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,882	Try Natasha at natasha@oasismastering.com

25th October 2003, 11:44 PM	#13
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	Thanks! Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

27th October 2003, 12:34 AM	#14
Oliver Hart Gear interested Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 23	Thanks for all the replies. they have helped a lot. -Oliver Smart

27th October 2003, 01:09 AM	#15
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,882	Also, if you are delivering to mixes in a digital format, I highly suggest do them at 24 bit. I usually send 1/2' and 24 bit AIFF's. Most of the time they just go with the 1/2.

27th October 2003, 02:26 PM	#17
splattercell Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 70	oliver et al, i must also to mention ken lee / ken lee mastering, oakland california! dt / spltrcl

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