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Old 1st August 2006   #1
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Has a radio Hit ever been recorded and mixed using...

Low End gear? I'm sure there must have been but who?

Anyone willing to share info...
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Cher "I believe"

Sort of "lowendish". here's an article

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb9.../tracks661.htm
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"Jagged Little Pill" was tracked to ADAT's
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I think the white stripes was done on pretty lowish end gear was it not?

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"Jagged Little Pill" was tracked to ADAT's
With a vintage C12 through a LA-2A....
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"Jagged Little Pill" was tracked to ADAT's
Alot of top 100 - top 200 singles/albums in the 90s were tracked on Adats and the Tascam digitapes.
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How very interesting!!! Anyone else have more precise info on the gear used? Keep it coming...
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ADATs

ADATs weren't exactly 'low end' at the time. They weren't a 2" 8 track, but neither is your Protools rig. They weren't cheap either. Nor were the DA-78 or DA-88's. I don't think that people were mainly using them at first because they were cheap, like Reason or an mBox, but because they did some stuff that analogue tape didn't do easily or at all.

They were 'easy' to sync up and didn't require much special gear, they made no-loss copies, the media was cheap, the media was easy to store and move around, etc... These are things you take for granted today in many digital studios, but try moving a stack of 50+ tapes from a dual album that's running with two 2" machines locked up with a MicroLynx (and then getting/keeping the microlynx working) from one froom to another a few times, and you'll agree that VHS sized tapes are a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to move around.

Also it's fair to mention again, that not all of Glen Ballard's gear is exactly low end, nor was it at the place that it was mixed and mastered at.

Something I know that was recorded 'cheaply' anyway was Nirvana's Bleach album. Cost them like 700 bucks or something to record an album that's sold a ton.
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Something I know that was recorded 'cheaply' anyway was Nirvana's Bleach album. Cost them like 700 bucks or something to record an album that's sold a ton.
That's exactly what I'd like to hear. From the recording, mixing and mastering product, low end gear was used...
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I'm not sure how or why I know this but I think that The Rembrandts (you know, the guys that did the Friends theme) first hit 'Thats Just The Way It Is Baby was recorded on a Fostex E16.
Whilst not technically a radio hit, Nebraska from Bruce Springsteen was recorded on a Tascam 4 track and I think it was mixed from it as well.
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Cowboy Junkies' Trinity Album, was recorded on a cheap recorder and one special mic. I don't have the details, but it was hailed as a really low tech but amazing project.
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loved the Cher "Believe" article. Thanks for posting that.


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That's exactly what I'd like to hear. From the recording, mixing and mastering product, low end gear was used...
Except that that album didn't sell well at all until after Nevermind. The back catalog high tide it's called.

Pavement's Slanted and Enchanted was a tape that was mailed to and from each of the band members who all had the same Tascam 4trk deck sitting in thier livingrooms, or so the legend goes. One of my favorite albums of all time but I don't think I'd ever shoot for that sound if you know what I mean.
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Metallica

Their most recent album sounds like it should have been recorded with a boombox, but sadly it was recorded with MUCH higher end stuff.

They forgot the most important piece of gear... their EARS!
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Great article slobber... Thanks man...
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That Cher article in SOS tells of them using the Digitech Talker to cop that famous vocal effect. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but everyone who has used Autotune knows that is what they used. No, I wasn't in the room with them, but it wouldn't the first time people have fibbed to the zines regarding gear used.
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Beck was lofi at the start. He has a super lofi called I think stereopathetic soul manure or something like that that I really love. I think loser might have been all-in-one roland style thing or something like that.
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"Jagged Little Pill" was tracked to ADAT's

And mixed at Westlake.
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Beck - "Loser"...... 4 track cassette
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And mixed at Westlake.


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Beck - "Loser"...... 4 track cassette
Damn, if that is true then Beck definitely wins the award! Was it mixed at a million dollar place as well?
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Damn, if that is true then Beck definitely wins the award! Was it mixed at a million dollar place as well?
Not sure, but that was the rumor...
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I remember Jimmy at Tascam was talking to me about the minidisc multitracks in, 93-94?? Cant remember, getting old, but the 238 Syncasette I ended up buying NOS, was heavily reccomended by him, since our store had one in the dungeon..he said verbatim, "If you still have one of those, grab it fast! Dont mess with any of this mini-disc 8 track crap, from anybody"...

He swore Madonnas first album was tracked on that same model, and mastered elsewhere. Could be true, you could hit that cassette tape with almost the same ferocity as their 1/4 in. reel to reel, which had the same exact transport, jsut with a cassette and not reel.

The song by collective soul, "let your light shine", or whatever its called, was the one song on the album that they kept the demo version. I dunno what they used on their own, but probably not the same quality of whaetever studio they ended up doin the real deal in.

Even on cheaper equipment, you can have a gem of a performance, that cant be duplicated again, anywhere else.
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and it still sounds like @ss! all her albums do... what's up with that?


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and it still sounds like @ss! all her albums do... what's up with that?


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O/T her track "uninvited" sounds great.
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ub40?
what was that song, from them?


there are some buget recordings that get mixed nicely.
not positive but was'nt the first Interpol a buget thing/demo that sounded good enough to get mixed?

"My United States of whatever" no clue who the artsit is

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O/T her track "uninvited" sounds great.

Recorded by Allen Sides.thumbsup
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ub40?
what was that song, from them?

Red red wine! Love that song
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"I think the white stripes was done on pretty lowish end gear was it not?"

uhhh, which record? actually from "white blood cells" on it's pretty primo, gearslutz-approved gear. Why wouldn't it be any otherwise? How could a hit record possibly occur without the proper gear? I dunno. Maybe it's the engineer. Maybe it's the songs. It could possibly even be just the artist. Naaaah.... but ya goota admit, those where the good ol days...
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