vetta 2 head..any users out there

[effectsnut]

I was wondering how many people are using them in the studio with a "cab"
NOT direct...im interested in it because of its so called versatility ..amp sims and so forth..do they sound nice with a cab?

[effectsnut]

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[Mark Warren]

Bought one a while back, thought it sounded decent in the store, then after having it for a few weeks and trying every conceivable variation of every sound (hooked up through a cabinet) it still sounded kinda crappy.

I even went on one of the Line 6 forums for the Vetta where everybody had all these in-depth ideas about how to get the best sound out of it, like patching in compressors and EQ's in a certain order and the routing of the amps (you can run more than one amp sim at once) and I tried these and it still sounded crappy and I realized I would be spending more time programming this thing than just playing good music (and I LOVE tech stuff and anything to do with a computer, and you can hook this up to your computer and edit the patches).

In the end it still sounded like ass, and I ended up bringing it back and getting some of the amps the Vetta supposedly emulated, including Engl Powerball, Bogner, a Blackface Fender, etc.

And every one of those amps I plug in and turn em on and they just ooze sick amazing tone, and no matter where I set the knobs I can't make em sound bad. Then again it costs a lot more, but I'd rather have that than a cheaper box that required tons of programming and still doesn't sound great. I would avoid the Vetta, just get a POD if you're looking for that versatility and pipe into a head or tube power amp or something.

[effectsnut]

Originally Posted by Mark Warren

Bought one a while back, thought it sounded decent in the store, then after having it for a few weeks and trying every conceivable variation of every sound (hooked up through a cabinet) it still sounded kinda crappy.

I even went on one of the Line 6 forums for the Vetta where everybody had all these in-depth ideas about how to get the best sound out of it, like patching in compressors and EQ's in a certain order and the routing of the amps (you can run more than one amp sim at once) and I tried these and it still sounded crappy and I realized I would be spending more time programming this thing than just playing good music (and I LOVE tech stuff and anything to do with a computer, and you can hook this up to your computer and edit the patches).

In the end it still sounded like ass, and I ended up bringing it back and getting some of the amps the Vetta supposedly emulated, including Engl Powerball, Bogner, a Blackface Fender, etc.

And every one of those amps I plug in and turn em on and they just ooze sick amazing tone, and no matter where I set the knobs I can't make em sound bad. Then again it costs a lot more, but I'd rather have that than a cheaper box that required tons of programming and still doesn't sound great. I would avoid the Vetta, just get a POD if you're looking for that versatility and pipe into a head or tube power amp or something.

yeah, maybe a pod pro xt.. not sure how it would sound with a tube power amp though... ive heard complaints anout line 6 with tube power amps

[warhead]

I don't know about the tube amp thing, I am NOT a fan of the Line6 stuff for the most part but a good friend who jams with me gets decent sounds out of a Pod going into my Randall tube amp. It seems somewhat redeeming anyhow to be able to sort of get the gain / bite out of the amp instead of the Pod anyhow.

I think Jules is a huge fan of the Vetta stuff??? Jules?

War

[effectsnut]

i have owned line 6 gear before. i have had a pod pro and then a pod pro xt but only tried them direct . i thought they sucked direct..the only reason im asking is i heard the vetta 2 sounds great through a cab...

[Jules]

Ours studios one doesnt get that much use.. I am a big fan of the user interface - it is great to dial around on..

When we DO use it - it is often in multi amp set ups - say we want the clean guitar sound from hell.. so we use

Engle Savage valve head & 4 x 12 (or perhaps bands own gear)
Ampeg Reverb Rocket valve combo
Line 6 Vetta

In a triangle with a mic on each -

Then blend the sounds - leaving the Vetta til last - so we can hopefully compensate for what the other two real amps might lack - by chosing a final sound to blend in from the Vetta..

So for us it can be used as a subtle final 'spice' - as a stop gap for perhaps amps we are short of.

I think if you put a lot of time into it, you could get a lot out of it - but you would still probably have to be employing clever 'anti digital' warming tricks to get 100% happy with it. (for example - I havent yet tried our Vetta I with our Motherload cab simulator.. but I would wager time spent tweaking by a golden eared guitar friendly engineer could yeald some great results with that combination..)

My two Euro Dollars..

The lead singer of my band has a Vetta.
We sure can waste time with it when trying to track something.
Not that it matters, he is going to play it half ass anyways.
It can be fun though.

Get a Blues Junior and a good distortion pedal and you can kill it on most days.
This is my experience.

I would think a guitar player who has an ear for what he wants, could make a lot of the Vetta. An amatuer like myself will just get lost in presets fiddling around for hours, seeking the "killer sound". I have, many times.


Good luck!
Have fun!

David

[ron florentine]

I have real tube amps here and also had a Vetta 2 and a hughes & Kettner Zentera.............kept the tube amps and the Zentera sent the Vetta 2 back..............The Zentera is the Only modeling amp that sounds like a real amp not a asimulation and I have pretty much had or tried them all. Unfortunetly the Zentera is very expensive and worth it.It is one of the best and most versatal amps I have ever owned.

Ron Florentine
Soundswest studio

[nathanvacha]

I used to use a pod plugged into decent amps a few years ago. It always worked for me I guess, got the job done and sounded pretty good... but I was recording at peoples places that had like a 001 and mxl mics and crap in a couple of spare bedrooms... I wouldn't suggest line6 for anything other than really really low-end gigs or special effects and texture... even if it is pushing a cab.

although, now that I think of it, I sat in on a friends session where one guitarist was using a vetta half- and the other guitarist I think a 5150... kinda new-metalish which is not my thing. I ended up <i>hating</i> the final guitar tracks when the mix came, but that night I was there for the scratch which was a 57 on each cab and the guitars just just blistered straight to tape, completely raw and they both sounded completely badass, even the vetta.

[skygod]

Hey Slutz: Happy Memorial Day All!!


Since the 70s I have used Marshall Plexis (JTM45, 50watt, and 100 watt PTP) and Mesa MKIs and IVs with top pedals and rack stuff live and in the studio, and I have been a stern Line 6 protagonist and hater for years now, but I demoed the Vetta II and HD150 last week on the recommendation of my close friend and manager at a local GC.


The Vetta sucked huge cock, but the HD 150 thru a Marshall 4x12 1960A it is absolutely amazing and stunning!

I fell in love with it and bought it on the spot with the heavy duty foot controller, set up four performance banks in 15 mins

and did a 6 x 30 min set show yesterday afternoon on the CT coast. Wow!

Goodbye marshall and Mesa heads live, good bye pedals - It rocks!

What an easy setup and tear down. OMG!!!! Either life is getting easier – or I’m just a fat lazy bastard now lol!

Happy Happy Happy!


The EJ patches alone are worth the price of admission alone:

The EJ clean nails the SCF ($299.00 retail)

The EJ OD nails the echoplex (fulltone tube tape delay $1200.00 + cost of tapes)

Latest and updated Line 6 engine w/ 400 artist presets and best songs presets since the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s by decade-

Cost: HD150: $399.00

Line 6 FBV Shortboard Footcontroller: $269.99 built like a brick house!

2 year ext warranty: $60.00

Total damage: $728.00 out the door [my buddy waived the NJ State Tax]

In the studio I can dial in anything in 30 sec flat last w/o any rack gear

Nails every single 1x12 and 2x12 amp you can think of very nicely live …

yes including the venerated ‘very hot’ class-A and tempermental Vox AC30T/B

Conclusion: I’m stoned happy! I’m the new Line 6 poster child … naagh, lets not go that far …


~skygod~


PS. I’m getting another one and another 4x12 1960A for a dual 4x12 setup: To run dry center (inside 4x12) and wet L/R (outside 4x12) in dual stereo at 8 ohms each 2x12 pair. Will need an RS-232 junction splitter from Radio Shack ...

Amazing … amazing head! The combo version HD120 has the same engine but the 2x12 cab does it no justice whatsoever!

~skygod~

PPS. Did I mention I’m stoned happy?

fuggouttahere fuggedaboudit!

[Todd24]

Originally Posted by skygod

The Vetta sucked huge cock, but the HD 150 thru a Marshall 4x12 1960A it is absolutely amazing and stunning!

It is really mis-informed(ing) to say this. Its the same amp with less stuff in it. Slight change to the EQ which was added in as an option on the Vetta with 2.5. Again, SAME EXACT SOUND with the option turned on.



Most people blow it with a Vetta because there are to many ways to F up the sound. If you like a tube amp straight up, use the Vetta just like that. Turn off the gate, comp, post EQ, etc, etc, etc.

I have played one next to many high end tube amps, right there in the same room, with an A/B switch. The Vetta is always as good, and usually better with a little effort than any tube amp I have put it next too.

Turn off the presets, turn on 1 amp and start there (funny, thats how you would use a "real" amp isnt it. you dont patch in all the post crap set it and then dial in the amp do you?)