Got My Marshall :)

ryanformato · 20th July 2006, 01:52 AM

I went out and bought the 1988 Marshall JCM 800 2205 and it is astounding how good it is. The guy even had the original black plastic switch pedal. I can still do my shred solos and get that in your face sound. I am EXTREMELY happy with my purchase and I'd like to thank you guys for helping me in my decision. The only problem now is I may become addicted to vintage (better) gear.

Now for the actual questions. I take all your opinions heavily and would like to know what pedals are best (since I am switching to the pedal route). I already have (just for being a guitarist for the last 8 years) a Morley Wah (Vai version) and an Ibanez Tremolo pedal. Can anyone point me to the "best" pedals so I don't have to waste my money trying different ones out.

I have been looking at the Yngwie Malmsteen 308 OverDrive but I need quality Delays, and a nice reverb would be ideal. I do have my digitech 2120 still, but do you think I'd be better off patching in pedals, or patching in my digitech 2120 via the loop.

Thanks again,
Ryan

MixingStick · 20th July 2006, 02:38 AM

Nice purchase...I have had a 76 Marshall mk2 50w half stack since 1988..luv it....it doesn't work for everything but it does fill a gap that can't be filled by anything else...have fun.

Tibbon · 20th July 2006, 02:47 AM

A list of decent/great pedals that should get you by:

EH Holy Grail Reverb (simple, but effective!)

Line 6 DL-4: It's not as good as a massive rack of boutique delays, but it's damn close, great on guitar, simple to use, and it costs less than just a repair job on a few 'vintage delays'. The looper rocks too.

Klon Centaur- Simply the best overdrive available. Bill's kinda a weird guy at times and there's normally a 1-3 month wait, else you pay the premium price for them on eBay. If you buy on on eBay keep in mind that there is NO difference between the shiny metal vs the gold ones in sound. The only change that Bill has made ever for the most part was going to through plated PCB's.

Voodoo Labs Pedal Power II- You gotta power all of this stuff correctly

EH Big Muff- I have an old one that I found and it does a certain sound and it's cool. Pretty modifyable too.

Moog MF-10*: Any of the Moog pedals will rock your world. Get an expression pedal with it too.

Old Boss/Roland compressors/choruses: pretty neato, if a little pricy.

Anything by Zvex. The Super Hard On and the Fuzz Factory are 100% required IMHO. The Probe versions are damn cool too. DO NOT get the ones with the coil instead of the plate, as he recalled those as they didn't work well. Some shits on eBay will try to sell them as 'vintage' ones. They are shit, stay away.

Flip makes a cool tremelo.

Get a decent pedalboard/case too. I have one from Fulltone that is really sweet. It's HEAVY AS HELL when it's full, but I know everything is safe.

Get George L's cabling, as it's nice, quick, and easy for guitar stuff, and make sure to get heavy duty velcro for the pedals to keep them in place. If you do it all right, you should just have to plug in your main guitar cable, a power cable and the cable to the amp if you go to a show/session and you're all good. No messing around with recabling each time or looking all sloppy.

You might want to get something to light your pedalboard, like a gooseneck lamp or something too.

I hear good things about the Barber pedals, but I have not played them myself.

If you want to keep it all clean in a rack, there's some switching solutions out there (can't remember all the names) but then you can get some type of midi controller and keep it all racked. The Digitech unit... ditch it IMHO.

sloanfiske · 20th July 2006, 03:13 AM

congrats.

get pedals.

my recommendations:

Analog Delay: Ibanez AD-9 (the pink one...awesome)

Digital Delay: Can never go wrong with the Boss DD-3

Boost: Zvex Super Hard On. Not just a boost per say, and just makes everything sound good. YES YES YES. You may also want to look at Analogman Beano Boost. If all else fails, the MXR Micro Amp does the trick

Overdrive: I second the KLON, but they've gotten super expensive, or would recommend a Way Huge Red Llama, if you feel like selling a kidney, but try a Fulltone Fulldrive. Get it on Ebay cheap, and sell it if you dont like it. I like the newer one with the Vintage/FullMid/CompCut switch. Dual Stage overdrive with a boost switch. Usually sounds good thru just about anything.

Fuzz: I like the Zvex Fuzz Factory as well, but it's a bit tempermental. I think a single flavor ala the Big Muff is great. I have an MJM Foxey Fuzz that is pretty cool and does that Big Muff thing without the noise.

I also think you might want to pass on the reverb if you get an analog delay, it fattens the sound pretty good, but if you do, the Holy Grail works well, or get a reissue tube reverb unit to stick on top of your amp.

If I had to line em up:

Guitar>>Boost>>Overdrive>>Fuzz>>Delay>>Amp

Then again, you do have a Marshall. Clean sound is so so, but get that thing rocking, you may not need any of the fuzz/overdrive pedals. A boost may be just what the doctor ordered

have fun

Sizzleboy · 20th July 2006, 03:58 AM

You need a tubescreamer type pedal. Something with really sweet tone, but not a whole lot of distortion. Something to give the amp a nice front end kick. The already mentioned Fulldrive does this and more. There are a few others as well.

As far as delay, I've always prefered analog delay in front of a distorted amp. Digital delay always tended to muddy things up. I think it has alot to do with the rolled off highs, so if you have to go digital, get something with EQ control, like the already mentioned Line 6.

I'm pretty much happy with those two pedal types and a good wah (fulltone is nice there too) in front of a crunching JCM800.

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20th July 2006, 01:52 AM	#1
ryanformato Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 38	Got My Marshall :) I went out and bought the 1988 Marshall JCM 800 2205 and it is astounding how good it is. The guy even had the original black plastic switch pedal. I can still do my shred solos and get that in your face sound. I am EXTREMELY happy with my purchase and I'd like to thank you guys for helping me in my decision. The only problem now is I may become addicted to vintage (better) gear. Now for the actual questions. I take all your opinions heavily and would like to know what pedals are best (since I am switching to the pedal route). I already have (just for being a guitarist for the last 8 years) a Morley Wah (Vai version) and an Ibanez Tremolo pedal. Can anyone point me to the "best" pedals so I don't have to waste my money trying different ones out. I have been looking at the Yngwie Malmsteen 308 OverDrive but I need quality Delays, and a nice reverb would be ideal. I do have my digitech 2120 still, but do you think I'd be better off patching in pedals, or patching in my digitech 2120 via the loop. Thanks again, Ryan

20th July 2006, 02:47 AM	#3
Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,089	A list of decent/great pedals that should get you by: EH Holy Grail Reverb (simple, but effective!) Line 6 DL-4: It's not as good as a massive rack of boutique delays, but it's damn close, great on guitar, simple to use, and it costs less than just a repair job on a few 'vintage delays'. The looper rocks too. Klon Centaur- Simply the best overdrive available. Bill's kinda a weird guy at times and there's normally a 1-3 month wait, else you pay the premium price for them on eBay. If you buy on on eBay keep in mind that there is NO difference between the shiny metal vs the gold ones in sound. The only change that Bill has made ever for the most part was going to through plated PCB's. Voodoo Labs Pedal Power II- You gotta power all of this stuff correctly EH Big Muff- I have an old one that I found and it does a certain sound and it's cool. Pretty modifyable too. Moog MF-10*: Any of the Moog pedals will rock your world. Get an expression pedal with it too. Old Boss/Roland compressors/choruses: pretty neato, if a little pricy. Anything by Zvex. The Super Hard On and the Fuzz Factory are 100% required IMHO. The Probe versions are damn cool too. DO NOT get the ones with the coil instead of the plate, as he recalled those as they didn't work well. Some shits on eBay will try to sell them as 'vintage' ones. They are shit, stay away. Flip makes a cool tremelo. Get a decent pedalboard/case too. I have one from Fulltone that is really sweet. It's HEAVY AS HELL when it's full, but I know everything is safe. Get George L's cabling, as it's nice, quick, and easy for guitar stuff, and make sure to get heavy duty velcro for the pedals to keep them in place. If you do it all right, you should just have to plug in your main guitar cable, a power cable and the cable to the amp if you go to a show/session and you're all good. No messing around with recabling each time or looking all sloppy. You might want to get something to light your pedalboard, like a gooseneck lamp or something too. I hear good things about the Barber pedals, but I have not played them myself. If you want to keep it all clean in a rack, there's some switching solutions out there (can't remember all the names) but then you can get some type of midi controller and keep it all racked. The Digitech unit... ditch it IMHO. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter

20th July 2006, 03:13 AM	#4
sloanfiske Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 252	congrats. get pedals. my recommendations: Analog Delay: Ibanez AD-9 (the pink one...awesome) Digital Delay: Can never go wrong with the Boss DD-3 Boost: Zvex Super Hard On. Not just a boost per say, and just makes everything sound good. YES YES YES. You may also want to look at Analogman Beano Boost. If all else fails, the MXR Micro Amp does the trick Overdrive: I second the KLON, but they've gotten super expensive, or would recommend a Way Huge Red Llama, if you feel like selling a kidney, but try a Fulltone Fulldrive. Get it on Ebay cheap, and sell it if you dont like it. I like the newer one with the Vintage/FullMid/CompCut switch. Dual Stage overdrive with a boost switch. Usually sounds good thru just about anything. Fuzz: I like the Zvex Fuzz Factory as well, but it's a bit tempermental. I think a single flavor ala the Big Muff is great. I have an MJM Foxey Fuzz that is pretty cool and does that Big Muff thing without the noise. I also think you might want to pass on the reverb if you get an analog delay, it fattens the sound pretty good, but if you do, the Holy Grail works well, or get a reissue tube reverb unit to stick on top of your amp. If I had to line em up: Guitar>>Boost>>Overdrive>>Fuzz>>Delay>>Amp Then again, you do have a Marshall. Clean sound is so so, but get that thing rocking, you may not need any of the fuzz/overdrive pedals. A boost may be just what the doctor ordered have fun __________________ the bahamas are islands

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20th July 2006, 02:38 AM	#2
MixingStick Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Keizer Posts: 74	Nice purchase...I have had a 76 Marshall mk2 50w half stack since 1988..luv it....it doesn't work for everything but it does fill a gap that can't be filled by anything else...have fun.

20th July 2006, 03:58 AM	#5
Sizzleboy Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 921	You need a tubescreamer type pedal. Something with really sweet tone, but not a whole lot of distortion. Something to give the amp a nice front end kick. The already mentioned Fulldrive does this and more. There are a few others as well. As far as delay, I've always prefered analog delay in front of a distorted amp. Digital delay always tended to muddy things up. I think it has alot to do with the rolled off highs, so if you have to go digital, get something with EQ control, like the already mentioned Line 6. I'm pretty much happy with those two pedal types and a good wah (fulltone is nice there too) in front of a crunching JCM800.