34 digital i/o for PT M-Powered?

[subspace]

http://www.midiman.net/index.php?do=...a72b463f867e64

Related products lists PT M-Powered 7.1, but it hasn't been added to the supported interfaces list...yet.
I've been waiting for exactly this to go with my MacBook, PT M-Powered, and my HDR. Will Digi let it happen?

[warhead]

I don't know how this one slipped past me...I have an email into the rep now. That is truly amazing with a LIST price of $499??? I don't recall seeing this one released so it's strange...! Appears to be fine with M-Powered PT7 as well.

War

[octatonic]

WOW....

I have been looking for a FW equivalent of the RME Digiface for ages.
I need one for my powerbook like... NOW.

This looks wicked- the stereo output means I can use it as a mobile writing/arranging rig also.

S/PDIF thumbsup
Headphone out thumbsup

Lets see how the Mac driver support is.

Pity it isn't bus powered but you can't have everything I guess.

[AdamJay]

wow.
i could totally get down with that. hook up my Lynx Aurora 16, and pair of Metric Halo 2882's...

SMUX!

might be selling the 002r soon...

[warhead]

It's not officially listed as "M Powered compatible" on the site but it's so new maybe they just haven't added it to the list yet. I'll know Monday from the rep and pass the info along. Very exciting for PT users who want tons of connectivity.

War

[Geert van den Berg]

Interesting box, what I would like to know if this also can do low-latency hardware monitoring as the 410 box...

And I'd also like to know, if you use the 410 with PT m-powered do you still have access to the low-latency mixer while recording?

Or does it work similar as a Digi002: only software low-latency mode instead of a hardware routing?

[AdamJay]

Originally Posted by warhead

It's not officially listed as "M Powered compatible" on the site but it's so new maybe they just haven't added it to the list yet. I'll know Monday from the rep and pass the info along. Very exciting for PT users who want tons of connectivity.

War

let us know for sure, Warren. and if PT compatibility is the case, order me one.

considering the other converters i own... i'd much rather go with this and ditch the 002R.

34in/36 out @ 44/48khz
18in/20out @ 88/96khz

hellllllll yea.

[weatherbox]

WOW. this is... exciting. Maybe I can have all my connectivity without having to either ditch ProTools or sell my life to go to HD after all...

[subspace]

Originally Posted by Geert van den Berg

Interesting box, what I would like to know if this also can do low-latency hardware monitoring as the 410 box...

And I'd also like to know, if you use the 410 with PT m-powered do you still have access to the low-latency mixer while recording?

Or does it work similar as a Digi002: only software low-latency mode instead of a hardware routing?

With the 410, I know you can use the M-Audio control panel to do low latency montioring while recording into M-Powered. That's one of the major differences between LE and M-Powered, with the former you're forced to use the software low latency mode, while the latter uses the M-Audio interface's built-in mixer.
I don't see any mention of hardware monitoring on the new box, which is fine by me, I've got a 32 channel desk for that. I just need a Mac Intel compatible firewire interface that has 32 digital i/os to feed converters. I also need a PT M-powered compatible interface with a headphone output to use at home. I also need it to be cross platform compatible so it'll work when I boot into XP to run Samplitude.
When's it ship?

[subspace]

I'm guessing there's no way Digi is gonna let this $499 firewire interface start eating into HD sales, which is exactly what would happen. The related products listing of PT M-Powered 7.1 gives some hope, but the details section listing is probably closer to the truth:

compatible with most major DAWs

ASIO II

WDM

Core Audio

GSIF II

I'm still interested even if M-powered compatability never materializes, but with it I would pre-order today.

[Benmrx]

Almost seems to good to be true. I just got the toolkit for PTLE to give me the 48 tracks + full beat detective. Maybe the toolkit was a sign of things to come for LE and Mpowered.

If this interface does work with Mpowered, I would expect to see an 003 right around the corner with more I/O as well. It just seems slightly confusing that they would "allow" for so much I/O with Mpowered but not LE.

If not, I'll gladly drop LE for Mpowered as I too need to be able to do transfers from my 2" 24 track, and for a while now I've been using 2 PTLE systems sync'd up. It would be SOOO much easier to just do the transfers through a single interface onto a single hard drive.

[by-tor]

um....wow. That could be sweet! Let us know!

[Matt Hepworth]

More info and a shipping date are needed. It's going to be quite interesting if it is, indeed, PTMP compatible. Just what I needed. I'll use my RME, my Sek'd and my 800R directly in for 18 high-quality inputs. That'd be sweet.

I don't think Digi has too much to worry about, as most professional users are using HD and most home studio users wouldn't need more than 8 or so ins. So it's just a few of us that would really utilize it with PT.


On to another question about using the low latency monitoring through the 410 with PTMP, yes, you just have to mute the channel in PT so you don't hear the latent playback as well.

[aussie_techie]

M-Audio ProFire Lightbridge

[AdamJay]

if you look at the ProFire product page:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_u...idge-main.html


and scroll down there is a list of "Related products for ProFire Lightbridge

the 2nd one listed is none other than Pro Tools M-Powered 7.1
vague, but promising.

booo yah.

[warhead]

Between this and the Music Production Tool Kit it'd be freakin' dangerous, and you're talking ballpark price with this, MP PT7 / tool kit costing maybe $1150 or so? Of course you have to bring your own converters.

Adam, I noticed that also being a related product but it hasn't officially been added to the compatible list so I'm still a little hesitant until I talk with the rep on Monday.

War

[Benmrx]

I'm gonna have a hard time sleeping this weekend. I MUST know!!!

I'll put in an order the second they say it's compatible.

BTW, I'd much rather have more I/O than full ADC

[~ufo~]

well,

I personally don't think this box would eat away much of the HD sales.

people don't only buy HD for the I/O, you know,
those who can afford HD USUALLY have the revenue to justify such an investment.
why do most people go HD?
same as why you bought a 2" 24 track in the olden days if you wanted to be a serious studio...
- it's the standard format / everyone else uses it or are having a hard time not using it.
- it works well
- nearly everyone you work with is PT compatible

I don't see this getting in the way of HD market share for the studio end much.
However, it could well take some sales from songwriters/home producers who have been struggling to put up the money for HD, to which I say AMEN! That's not the biggest share of HD sales anyway methinks. Home producers who mix fullblown projects on their rigs will still be inclined to go HD and will have the money to invest in such.

now... this whole M-audio development is starting to look like something to me.

has anyone heard any solid information that a digi003 is on its way????? not me.

what's the difference in M-powered and LE in software / features. Close to none I think (CMIIW).
so isn't it plausible that digi are doing away with making their own "budget" interfaces and M-Audio are taking over and expanding the LE niche???

it sure appears that way to me.

now if digidesign are going to be cool about this and not limit this box to 18 I/O @48k I see that as a clear sign of commencement of the aforementioned.

maybe pigs really do fly...... I know Apples do on a cold day in hell.....

[Geert van den Berg]

Originally Posted by subspace

With the 410, I know you can use the M-Audio control panel to do low latency montioring while recording into M-Powered. That's one of the major differences between LE and M-Powered, with the former you're forced to use the software low latency mode, while the latter uses the M-Audio interface's built-in mixer.
I don't see any mention of hardware monitoring on the new box, which is fine by me, I've got a 32 channel desk for that.

While I don't jump ship very soon, I'm content with my Digital Performer Fireface combo, low latency recording is a must for me as I don't have a hardware mixer.

It's good to know it's possible with PT Mp and the 410 as well. Let's hope they have some DSP in the lightbridge as well, that would make life so much easier for people without hardware mixers.

[aussie_techie]

most other M-Audio interfaces list
near zero-latency hardware direct monitoring
low-latency ASIO software direct monitoring
the FireWire LightBridge so i wouldnt be expending any kind of DSP in it.

ill be interested to see what digi come out with next

[Geert van den Berg]

I know the 1814 has a mixer chip and the spec's say the 410 has hardware routing as well, though I don't know if you can adjust levels with it as well, but I assume you can.

Low-latency drivers are only interesting to me when you're using virtual instruments or use the computer as a sampler.

While tracking and mixing real instruments I prefer to use the largest possible buffersize which garantuees the computer operates at maximum stability and then it's also possible to incorporate some plugins on already recorded tracks. Also you don't have to switch buffers anymore, unless you're using VI's offcourse.

A DSP mixer inside the lightbridge would be very handy, let's hope it has it.

On the Fireface I can also mix the ADAT channels with Totalmix, handy if I pair the FF with an external converter for extra inputs when recording more channels at once. Or when upgrading to a better converter the FF is still usefull as a router.

[octatonic]

Originally Posted by ~ufo~

well,
I personally don't think this box would eat away much of the HD sales.
people don't only buy HD for the I/O, you know,

I'm a HD user- I won't be dropping the TDM rig for this.
This just looks like an excellent interface that can operate as a good 2 channel playback device for doing edits in hotels rooms as well as being able to pair it with good converters/outboard for an affordable mobile rig.
The problem with the cheaper interfaces is the converters sound pretty average.

I'd been considering going for a digiface but I'd rather have something with firewire as I could upgrade to a new Mac at some point and don't know how compatible cardbus will be.

JR

[AdamJay]

if this proves to be PT compatible, i'm not that worried about low latency monitoring. I can just set up a low latency monitoring config with my Metric Halo 2882's. They can split analog ins to adat outs and analog outs. might have to do a little nudging for syncing it to playback but i certainly won't complain.

Having the capability to use more than 10 quality channels of A/D/A conversion with PT may finally be here. and its WAY more than 10 channels. My 002R acts as a lightpipe and s/pdif bridge to PT right now. I stomach the additional onboard 8 D/A's for console mixing (toms, guitar layers). No more of that.

Lots of 002's are gonna hit the classifieds and eBay if this proves compatible.

[gracejames]

I would be surprised if it is not compatible with MPowered.
That would be kind of ridiculous. Every other new M-A interface
is compatible and then to make this and it isn't. If not, they may make
a simular interface for PT LE 003 or something like that. I would guess
by next AES.

[chadly]

Originally Posted by subspace

http://www.midiman.net/index.php?do=...a72b463f867e64

Related products lists PT M-Powered 7.1, but it hasn't been added to the supported interfaces list...yet.
I've been waiting for exactly this to go with my MacBook, PT M-Powered, and my HDR. Will Digi let it happen?

Interesting. . . I wonder if this is the pre-AES wind up for a DIGI003-type operation.

Note that PT M-Powered is a related product.

[warhead]

Originally Posted by gracejames

I would be surprised if it is not compatible with MPowered.

Seeing as how a $99 piece like an Audiophile 2496 is compatible yeah...you'd think it would be. Tomorrow we'll know.

War

[AdamJay]

Originally Posted by warhead

tomorrow we'll know.

whatta ya figure - $400 street price? thats what other m-audio products at the same list price street-out at around.

or super low Front End Audio gearslutz-that-avoid-HD intro price?

[warhead]

Based on list I'd say it's in the $400 range.

I've got 5 kids to feed, a stay at home wife home schooling them, and a business partner. How much should I discount it? haha

War

[AdamJay]

do all 5 have to eat?

couldn't you stagger them. like 3 eat one day, 2 eat the next?



i'm so evil.










and child-free.

[warhead]

haha...maybe I could hire them out to a shoe factory or something (Kathy Lee, hello?) you know...small hands and all...they can reach where we can't so it only makes sense.

War