Nelly Furtado's new record starts with an awful feedback loop

Matt Grondin · 8th July 2006, 11:54 AM

Anyone else hear this? I brings back so many bad memories of me patching the wrong thing into another wrong thing and then WHAM! a lovely blast of feedback comes out of the speakers. Why would they do this? It's subtle and never fully materializes, but you can't mistake that sound. UGHHH.

Jim Williams · 8th July 2006, 04:54 PM

It's her attempt to "Fly Like A Bird" to the land of hip hop and street credibility.

I don't think it will work, but never underestimate the the buying public.

What's next, Pavoratti doing country?

Jim Williams
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djwayne · 8th July 2006, 05:07 PM

Never underestimate the idiotic arrogance of the music industry pros.

With 7-10 million cd sales under her belt, Nelly Furtado already has street credibility.

elambo · 8th July 2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwayne

Never underestimate the idiotic arrogance of the music industry pros.

With 7-10 million cd sales under her belt, Nelly Furtado already has street credibility.

True dat...

adam miller · 8th July 2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

It's her attempt to "Fly Like A Bird" to the land of hip hop and street credibility.

I don't think it will work, but never underestimate the the buying public.

What's next, Pavoratti doing country?

To be fair, she was always banging on about her hiphop 'roots' from day one. She had a guest spot on a Jurassic 5 album a couple of years back...

champ · 8th July 2006, 10:44 PM

i got 3 cds and the last one is pretty good

totally diffirent then the other albums but for something totally new its good
maneater is one of the worst songs on there so listen to the other tracks on there

True North · 8th July 2006, 11:06 PM

back in the day before she was ever near signed she was pretty amazing. She had always belnded pop/hip-hop and rap. She used to break out into rap in Portugese out of nowhere in the middle of a song.

I don't mind the new single

s00p3rm4n · 9th July 2006, 12:39 AM

"Nelly Furtado's new record starts with an awful feedback loop"...

And continues with an awful goat bleat. In other words, the entire album.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwayne

Never underestimate the idiotic arrogance of the music industry pros. With 7-10 million cd sales under her belt, Nelly Furtado already has street credibility.

That's called irony - see, because the music industry pros are the only people who'd call someone a legitimate artist because of her CD sales. Madonna, what what?

djwayne · 9th July 2006, 12:46 AM

"Eat poop, twenty million flies can't be wrong."

Jazzpunk · 9th July 2006, 02:17 AM

Her last record showed a lot of growth. When I saw her on SNL with Timberland doing the single off of her new album, I thought it was a bad joke.

Obviously she is aiming for the lowest common denominator with her new record. Guess she's content with showing she can 'ho' it up with the best of them.

Matt Grondin · 9th July 2006, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

Her last record showed a lot of growth. When I saw her on SNL with Timberland doing the single off of her new album, I thought it was a bad joke.

Obviously she is aiming for the lowest common denominator with her new record. Guess she's content with showing she can 'ho' it up with the best of them.

As much as that sucks, she IS the number most requested artist on Rhapsody right now. I personally think she's selling out to keep her record contract. Aren't some of the songs themselves called Permiscuous or something?

joeq · 9th July 2006, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

... When I saw her on SNL with Timberland doing the single off of her new album, I thought it was a bad joke.

...Guess she's content with showing she can 'ho' it up with the best of them.

actually she can't. I saw that show, and I felt she was strangely unconvincing as a sexpot, like a bank teller going as a hooker for Halloween.

KrisNY · 9th July 2006, 05:45 AM

The single comes off as so poorly written to me. It's like she and Timbaland didn't even try.

u b k · 9th July 2006, 06:08 AM

i've got a few tracks of nelly pre-major-label, just her and a spanish guitarist and an upright bass player. she sings in a natural voice, not the pinched nosetone on her studio releases; the songs are completely unconventional in structure, with no regard to pop formulae; and her lyrics, delivery, and personality are undeniably gifted.

i think she was 17 or 18 when she made the recordings. i keep waiting for the day when she shrugs off the label influences and gets down to her true badass self... it's gonna be a sweet day, the lady has serious talent.

gregoire
del
ubk

FunkFaker · 9th July 2006, 06:16 AM

the record seems to have the 'dance floor' mentality that loveangelmusicbaby had for gwen stefani. although the tunes don't seem to have the same strength as the latter, i don't think it's any less honest of a record for her. she always seemed to exude a sort of dance/electronic element. maybe this one is a bit more focused effort...?

who's to say... a lot of them make my head bobb, and a hell of a lot of others too!

audiomichael · 9th July 2006, 08:57 PM

Starts with a feedback loop, continues with a bunch of crappy songs, and ends with giving me a headache.

I listened to the whole thing 2x in a row on a road trip. I was expecting something much better from Nelly + Timbaland.

themaestro · 10th July 2006, 12:19 AM

how many of you guys would love to see one of the checks that nelly, timbo, danja, or anybody else involved in the production of this album is gonna recieve in a couple months? it seems like everywhere i look someone is making negative comments about something that someone else is doing. i hardly ever hear the people who are getting placements and credits on major albums like nelly's complaining about another person's sub-par work. maybe we can all take a lesson from them. i've found that the more CHECKS i cash, the less time i put into CHECKING up on someone else.

Jazzpunk · 10th July 2006, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themaestro

how many of you guys would love to see one of the checks that nelly, timbo, danja, or anybody else involved in the production of this album is gonna recieve in a couple months? it seems like everywhere i look someone is making negative comments about something that someone else is doing. i hardly ever hear the people who are getting placements and credits on major albums like nelly's complaining about another person's sub-par work. maybe we can all take a lesson from them. i've found that the more CHECKS i cash, the less time i put into CHECKING up on someone else.

You should get direct deposit. That way you can get your money and still have time to bag on other people's cheesy records

h4nc0 · 10th July 2006, 02:45 AM

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bad record/song. I thought the start with "feedback loop" was kinda funny.

u b k · 10th July 2006, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bad record/song.

conversely, just because my opinion doesn't have the power to render a piece of art bad doesn't mean the piece of art isn't, in truth, a bad piece of art.

gregoire
del
ubk

h4nc0 · 10th July 2006, 08:39 AM

bad piece of art? by whose standards?

Rednose · 10th July 2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

It's her attempt to "Fly Like A Bird" to the land of hip hop and street credibility.

I don't think it will work, but never underestimate the the buying public.

What's next, Pavoratti doing country?

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

Don't think it will work?
Check the sound scans next week and I'll bet they'll be impressive.
Wow, that white chick can't rap!

Jazzpunk · 10th July 2006, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0

bad piece of art? by whose standards?

Don't worry, nobody here is mistaking it for art.

u b k · 10th July 2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0

bad piece of art? by whose standards?

my point is not that standards determine the truth, but that perhaps they reflect it. i'm not sure there's a universal consensus on whether the brutal torture of living things that feel pain is inherently a good or bad thing, but i do have a sense that there's a truth about its reality that exists independently of people's feelings about it.

might not the same be true of everything else in the universe?

gregoire
del
ubk

2012 · 10th July 2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u b i k

i've got a few tracks of nelly pre-major-label, just her and a spanish guitarist and an upright bass player. she sings in a natural voice, not the pinched nosetone on her studio releases; the songs are completely unconventional in structure, with no regard to pop formulae; and her lyrics, delivery, and personality are undeniably gifted.

i think she was 17 or 18 when she made the recordings. i keep waiting for the day when she shrugs off the label influences and gets down to her true badass self... it's gonna be a sweet day, the lady has serious talent.

TRUE

theblue1 · 10th July 2006, 11:40 PM

I was looking for whatever the song in question on my 'scription service (the song "Permiscuous" is listed but doesn't play) ... I couldn't find it (I guess) but I DID find a track (on her 2003 Folklore album) that has the freakin' Kronos Quartet AND Bela Fleck and still manages to be pretty boring and cookie cutter... I can only imagine that Kronos and Bela laffed all the way to the bank. I hope. (It's not really like either added anything. The banjo part I focused on seemed particularly lethargic. I'm not a huge Fleck fan but I don't usually think of him as lethargic.)

I'd heard her name for years but -- thanks to my some-think-it's-uncanny ability to completely avoid/ignore 99.9+% of pop music -- I'd never heard her.

So I decided it was time...

Sometimes when I do that, I find that I've been missing something. Who'd ha' thunk that I'd like the Dixie Chicks, Black Eyed Peas, or Modest Mouse? I know I was surprised. Usually the more familiar a name is before I hear their music, the less I'm gonna like 'em, I've noticed. But I don't think it's reactionism on my part. I mean, in that case I'd utterly despise the DC or BEP. But once I'd heard them -- I didn't at all.

But this time it just confirmed the weary expectations of uninspiring music-industrial-complex product that normally keeps me from even clicking on those pretty, vacant faces on the MusicMatch On Demand front page...

[PS... come to think of it, I heard someone else mention the years-ago small ensemble with a then-teenage Furtado. That sounds like something I'd like to hear... ]

theblotted · 11th July 2006, 12:41 AM

the nasal voice has got to go... otherwise she's got one helluva voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ugie...elly%20furtado

desol · 11th July 2006, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

It's her attempt to "Fly Like A Bird" to the land of hip hop and street credibility.

I don't think it will work, but never underestimate the the buying public.

What's next, Pavoratti doing country?

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

Couldn't have said it better myself. lol

Maybe she should use an re20 more often! lol ... good clip!

strings · 11th July 2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

You should get direct deposit. That way you can get your money and still have time to bag on other people's cheesy records

sorry, I couldn't help but laugh when I read that...

She is loaded with talent, but I was quite surprised by the direction on this album. After the maturity shown on the last record, I didn't think she would stoop to skankville...especially after recently having a daughter. The lyrics to that song could have been written by a 13 year old hitting puberty... "You know what I want
And I got what you need"...give me a break.

She's still only young; I'm sure she'll rebound.
Then again if it's all about making money; she's right on target.

I'm starting to rant; time to stop.

jlsgear · 11th July 2006, 01:07 PM

Rant on man ... and sorry, not meaning to offend ...

But if folks think this gal is loaded with talent ... they need to get out more ... ALOT more ...

For example, invite her to any small/large Folk Festival ... put her up against 99% of the artists ... young and old (who's average income is less than the parking attendant) ... and she'd sound laughable ...

And don't get me going on that SNL "performance" ... backing tracks and faking musicians ... good God !!!

jls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strings

sorry, I couldn't help but laugh when I read that...

She is loaded with talent, but I was quite surprised by the direction on this album. After the maturity shown on the last record, I didn't think she would stoop to skankville...especially after recently having a daughter. The lyrics to that song could have been written by a 13 year old hitting puberty... "You know what I want
And I got what you need"...give me a break.

She's still only young; I'm sure she'll rebound.
Then again if it's all about making money; she's right on target.

I'm starting to rant; time to stop.

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8th July 2006, 11:54 AM	#1
Matt Grondin Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville Beach, FL Posts: 1,108	Nelly Furtado's new record starts with an awful feedback loop Anyone else hear this? I brings back so many bad memories of me patching the wrong thing into another wrong thing and then WHAM! a lovely blast of feedback comes out of the speakers. Why would they do this? It's subtle and never fully materializes, but you can't mistake that sound. UGHHH. __________________ Matt Grondin http://www.myspace.com/incamaya http://www.inca-maya.com

8th July 2006, 11:06 PM	#7
True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,466	back in the day before she was ever near signed she was pretty amazing. She had always belnded pop/hip-hop and rap. She used to break out into rap in Portugese out of nowhere in the middle of a song. I don't mind the new single __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

10th July 2006, 12:19 AM	#17
themaestro Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATL Posts: 509	how many of you guys would love to see one of the checks that nelly, timbo, danja, or anybody else involved in the production of this album is gonna recieve in a couple months? it seems like everywhere i look someone is making negative comments about something that someone else is doing. i hardly ever hear the people who are getting placements and credits on major albums like nelly's complaining about another person's sub-par work. maybe we can all take a lesson from them. i've found that the more CHECKS i cash, the less time i put into CHECKING up on someone else. __________________ I make beats!

10th July 2006, 11:40 PM	#26
theblue1 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 5,694	I was looking for whatever the song in question on my 'scription service (the song "Permiscuous" is listed but doesn't play) ... I couldn't find it (I guess) but I DID find a track (on her 2003 Folklore album) that has the freakin' Kronos Quartet AND Bela Fleck and still manages to be pretty boring and cookie cutter... I can only imagine that Kronos and Bela laffed all the way to the bank. I hope. (It's not really like either added anything. The banjo part I focused on seemed particularly lethargic. I'm not a huge Fleck fan but I don't usually think of him as lethargic.) I'd heard her name for years but -- thanks to my some-think-it's-uncanny ability to completely avoid/ignore 99.9+% of pop music -- I'd never heard her. So I decided it was time... Sometimes when I do that, I find that I've been missing something. Who'd ha' thunk that I'd like the Dixie Chicks, Black Eyed Peas, or Modest Mouse? I know I was surprised. Usually the more familiar a name is before I hear their music, the less I'm gonna like 'em, I've noticed. But I don't think it's reactionism on my part. I mean, in that case I'd utterly despise the DC or BEP. But once I'd heard them -- I didn't at all. But this time it just confirmed the weary expectations of uninspiring music-industrial-complex product that normally keeps me from even clicking on those pretty, vacant faces on the MusicMatch On Demand front page... [PS... come to think of it, I heard someone else mention the years-ago small ensemble with a then-teenage Furtado. That sounds like something I'd like to hear... ] __________________ biz \| profile \| songblog \| acoustic \| mutant roots pop

8th July 2006, 04:54 PM	#2
Jim Williams Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: beautiful Carlsbad, CA Posts: 4,256	It's her attempt to "Fly Like A Bird" to the land of hip hop and street credibility. I don't think it will work, but never underestimate the the buying public. What's next, Pavoratti doing country? Jim Williams Audio Upgrades

8th July 2006, 05:07 PM	#3
djwayne Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,418	Never underestimate the idiotic arrogance of the music industry pros. With 7-10 million cd sales under her belt, Nelly Furtado already has street credibility.

8th July 2006, 10:44 PM	#6
champ Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Utrecht Posts: 55	i got 3 cds and the last one is pretty good totally diffirent then the other albums but for something totally new its good maneater is one of the worst songs on there so listen to the other tracks on there

9th July 2006, 12:46 AM	#9
djwayne Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,418	"Eat poop, twenty million flies can't be wrong."

9th July 2006, 02:17 AM	#10
Jazzpunk Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,633	Her last record showed a lot of growth. When I saw her on SNL with Timberland doing the single off of her new album, I thought it was a bad joke. Obviously she is aiming for the lowest common denominator with her new record. Guess she's content with showing she can 'ho' it up with the best of them.

9th July 2006, 05:45 AM	#13
KrisNY Gear addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Suburban NYC Posts: 410	The single comes off as so poorly written to me. It's like she and Timbaland didn't even try.

9th July 2006, 06:08 AM	#14
u b k Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: m a n h a t t a n Posts: 5,539	i've got a few tracks of nelly pre-major-label, just her and a spanish guitarist and an upright bass player. she sings in a natural voice, not the pinched nosetone on her studio releases; the songs are completely unconventional in structure, with no regard to pop formulae; and her lyrics, delivery, and personality are undeniably gifted. i think she was 17 or 18 when she made the recordings. i keep waiting for the day when she shrugs off the label influences and gets down to her true badass self... it's gonna be a sweet day, the lady has serious talent. gregoire del ubk

9th July 2006, 06:16 AM	#15
FunkFaker Gear nut Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 102	the record seems to have the 'dance floor' mentality that loveangelmusicbaby had for gwen stefani. although the tunes don't seem to have the same strength as the latter, i don't think it's any less honest of a record for her. she always seemed to exude a sort of dance/electronic element. maybe this one is a bit more focused effort...? who's to say... a lot of them make my head bobb, and a hell of a lot of others too!

9th July 2006, 08:57 PM	#16
audiomichael Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: L. A.-ish Posts: 1,298	Starts with a feedback loop, continues with a bunch of crappy songs, and ends with giving me a headache. I listened to the whole thing 2x in a row on a road trip. I was expecting something much better from Nelly + Timbaland.

10th July 2006, 02:45 AM	#19
h4nc0 Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, Korea Posts: 250	Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bad record/song. I thought the start with "feedback loop" was kinda funny.

10th July 2006, 08:39 AM	#21
h4nc0 Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, Korea Posts: 250	bad piece of art? by whose standards?

11th July 2006, 12:41 AM	#27
theblotted Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,841	the nasal voice has got to go... otherwise she's got one helluva voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ugie...elly%20furtado __________________ the Dude abides.