Best way to split a guitar signal?

[Rufuss Sewell]

I'm really getting into Guitar Rig now. I'm wondering what is the best way to split the guitar signal into both the "real" amp and the DI? I'm hoping I already have the capability without buying anything new.

[pan60]

if you have a pedal that is stereo out, like some choruses, you can use it in bypass mode. and if i amp not mistaken it will pass signal for both sides.
i use a pedal that Gerald Weber made it's the Kendrick ABCDEF Box.
http://kendrick-amplifiers.com/Merch...tegory_Code=04
i like it, but mostly use it for switch to different amp and effect's set ups.

[warhead]

Do you already own a DI with a splitter on board?

War

[Jason Poulin]

little labs IBP


it's got more uses too.



Jason

[pan60]

the problems with many splitters is that they change the way the amp sees the guitar, ( from what the tech's have told me with i complain about the sound degradation ) as a result the amp my not react the way you want or expect it to.

[GTR]

Check out Peter Frampton's Framptone boxes. He makes them to drive 2 or 3 amps at once without signal degradation.

http://www.framptone.com/

There are other units out there, haven't tried them, but I trust Peter Frampton not to 'F around when it comes to guitar gear. It's a piece of gear I want to purchase.

[True North]

Any basic DI box will do the trick

[pan60]

Originally Posted by GTR

Check out Peter Frampton's Framptone boxes. He makes them to drive 2 or 3 amps at once without signal degradation.

http://www.framptone.com/

There are other units out there, haven't tried them, but I trust Peter Frampton not to 'F around when it comes to guitar gear. It's a piece of gear I want to purchase.

very similar design to what Weber made me.
it has been the best i have used with very good results, most would not notice even being plugged into it.
but any of these type units will be pricey.

[animix]

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

I'm really getting into Guitar Rig now. I'm wondering what is the best way to split the guitar signal into both the "real" amp and the DI? I'm hoping I already have the capability without buying anything new.

Well, if you decide to spend money, here's what I use.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--RADJX2

[maskedman72]

little labs unit. i believe it is called an std?

[allencollins]

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

I'm really getting into Guitar Rig now. I'm wondering what is the best way to split the guitar signal into both the "real" amp and the DI? I'm hoping I already have the capability without buying anything new.

the best way
is to have two output jacks on your guitar.
although not practical in somecases it is the cleanest
only way to assure no loss of signal.

I modded two of my gtr's for this. Ive bought every single
a/b box, di blah blah under $200 and none of them give you a true
unaltered split signal.

[GTR]

Unfortunatley, getting this for under $200 will not work. My guitars would lose more in value than paying for a $400 box to do the trick. Although I was hip on getting the Framptone, the Kendrick ABCDEF box seems really cool (along with all the amps they make), and I might end up with it instead of the Framptone.

pan60 - Thanks for the post about the Kendrick stuff!!! Cool shit!

[Open Sky]

I haven't used this myself, but recently read an interview with Daniel Lanois, who says he uses it. I'm guessing that if it's OK for his tone, it will be just fine for all the rest of us. And...only $45.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...her?sku=150757

[Rufuss Sewell]

Ok, this is giving me some ideas.

My typical DI's are the UA 6176 and Chameleon Labs 7602. Neither of these allows me to split the original signal as far as I know. I also have a couple of whirlwind IMP's which have a parallel out and an XLR out. Not sure how those would do the the job.

I actually do have a stereo guitar... the Parker Fly but one channel is dedicated to the Piezo pickup so that's no good. I have a couple of Roland synth guitars that actually sound pretty great just as regular guitars. There's a direct out from the guitar as well as a guitar output on the synth. We're talking the old analog one's from the late 70's. Maybe I'll give that a shot.

As far as stereo pedals, I do have an Ernie Ball stereo volume pedal that might do the trick, as well as several Boss stereo pedals with two outs. I'm thinking the passive nature of the Ernie Ball would be my best bet.

I'll start A/B'ing. Thanks!

[Eric Greedy]

Jonathan Little's PCP Distro is great... it has non of the downsides and all of the upsides..and everything he touches is the shizzle. period.

[bionicears]

Radial Tonebone JX2 Switchbone AB/Y Pedal.

I use it almost everyday--very useful--especially the ground lift (no more amp hum) and you can adjust the "drag" and gain going to the amp.

[covert]

Voodoo Labs Amp Selector will give you 4 decent outs.

[bobby yarrow]

I own a little labs redeye, a radial 1-to-3 thing, and a pile of DI boxes. I reckon it depends on what's happening with the rest of the guitar sound, but I've never been a plug-straight-in player and if you're using garage band I doubt you are either.

The things I've found to be appreciable (important is too strong) is what the pickups see first and what the amp sees. Honestly, I wouldn't hesitate to split a guitar signal with a stompbox that happened to have 2 outs -- you've got to have one of those boss tuners, yeah? 8' of cable into one of those, turned off, is going to be fine for splitting. If you want to live it up, give the pickups something nice to look at, like a SHO before the tuner. And then if your signal run in more than 10' to your amp, I'd get another boost pedal just to drive the line.

Long way of saying that I've found impedance on the front end and roll-off from long cable runs to be much more of problem than the splitter itself. The only thing I WOULD avoid is an inexpensive A/B/Y. Useless when going to 2 amps -- all kinds of problems -- and I imagine the same's true with amp/DI.

[adamcal]

I have one of these that Im very happy with.

http://www.axess-electronics.com/_p_bs2.htm

[Chunky Karma]

Originally Posted by Open Sky

I haven't used this myself, but recently read an interview with Daniel Lanois, who says he uses it. I'm guessing that if it's OK for his tone, it will be just fine for all the rest of us. And...only $45.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...her?sku=150757

I have one of these and I would definitely not recommend it. The review at the top of that link sums up my feelings about that box as well.

[pan60]

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

I do have an Ernie Ball stereo volume pedal that might do the trick, as well as several Boss stereo pedals with two outs. I'm thinking the passive nature of the Ernie Ball would be my best bet.

I'll start A/B'ing. Thanks!

i would go with one of the boss pedals.
the EB volume pedals is passive and thus really no different then the cheaper passive AB pedals on the market.
i think it will depend on what other gear you are using and what kind of sound you are going for.
let us know what turns out to be the least of the two evil's for you.
i love the build of the EB volume pedal i have had mine for ever.

[toolstudio]

I second the LittleLabs PCP, most used piece of gear when I do rock sessions...


wolfgang

[bobby yarrow]

Originally Posted by adamcal

I have one of these that Im very happy with.

http://www.axess-electronics.com/_p_bs2.htm

THAT is what I have, not a radial.

I have it the live room, for sending (usually bass) to an isolated amp and to the control room for DI.