28th August 2012
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter  | So frustrated with 1030s w/ sub and HR824s. Maybe need to trade-in?
I've been using 1030s with a sub in my well treated room, and have not been able to get the sub in phase or my bass to translate. I've been using them for a few years, but normally did most of my mixing elsewhere
I pulled out my old hr824s to figure out the bass thing, but the midrange is so undetailed that I have to jump back and forth between the to pairs.
Im thinking i might need to trade them in for one set that combines the strengths of both speakers. Would prefer active. Any suggestions? Would love barefoots, even the smaller ones but dont know if my budget will quite allow.
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28th August 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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oh yea ive been down genelectown. it hurts my ears thinking of them still. went the mm27 ns10 way and im very happy with it.
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28th August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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I really want to stay in the 2k a monitor range. I don't hate the gene's even though the top end is harsh. 1032s? I've enjoyed ProAcs too, but not sure if the have enough low end response for my needs.
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29th August 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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BM15a?
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Funny how everyone's ears are different. I've been using my 1030's with a sub for about 15 years, and love them. I just mixed a record in a studio with Barefoot monitors, and I brought my 1030's as well. I preferred my setup and never switched back to the Barefoots.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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29th August 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by juniorhifikit  Funny how everyone's ears are different. I've been using my 1030's with a sub for about 15 years, and love them. I just mixed a record in a studio with Barefoot monitors, and I brought my 1030's as well. I preferred my setup and never switched back to the Barefoots.
One man's trash is another man's treasure. | I LOVE my 1030s, but can't get the damn sub in phase. My room isn't completely ideal for a sub however.
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29th August 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Check out pelonis 4288, Event Opals, and in the low range the Event 2030's.
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Pelonis looks great-hopefully someone in NYC has them so i can demo in my room.
I had some event ASP8s that I never could live with, so im a little reluctant to go in the event direction. Wonder if I can get 2600 for both pairs of speakers and sub ;-)
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29th August 2012
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#9 | | Gear Guru
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Id' also look at the JBL LSR series. I could never get Gene's to work well for me, although I've mixed on them a lot. The JBL's eventually became perfect for me though. Before the LSR's I was never a huge JBL fan, but they won me over.
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by jeremycox Pelonis looks great-hopefully someone in NYC has them so i can demo in my room.
I had some event ASP8s that I never could live with, so im a little reluctant to go in the event direction. Wonder if I can get 2600 for both pairs of speakers and sub ;-) | Had ASP8's too, and I agree, not a monitor I was happy with.
But the Opals are in a WHOLE different ballpark. A huge across the board improvement in all areas.
Heard good things about the 2030's, but have yet to hear them. They are certainly priced way lower so I wouldn't expect miracles, but probably a good bargain.
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by drBill Id' also look at the JBL LSR series. I could never get Gene's to work well for me, although I've mixed on them a lot. The JBL's eventually became perfect for me though. Before the LSR's I was never a huge JBL fan, but they won me over. | Yes, LSR's are also good, though voiced quite different from the genelecs, which is a good or bad thing depending on ones taste.
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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My mixes have translated much better after I switched from Genelec to the JBL LSR.
The Genelecs sound great, but that IS the problem. They are too pretty and not very revealing. I used Genelecs for 10 years straight along with a pair of Westlakes.
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29th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear nut
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Maybe just drop the sub and learn to mix without it.... You already said your room's not ideal for subs...
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29th August 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by MattLyonsMusic Maybe just drop the sub and learn to mix without it.... You already said your room's not ideal for subs... | I need to switch the entire setup. I mix mostly commercial rap stuff, and really need 40hz, if not 30. You don't have much below 80 on 1030s without a sub.
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29th August 2012
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#15 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by Fleaman Yes, LSR's are also good, though voiced quite different from the genelecs, which is a good or bad thing depending on ones taste. |
For me, it was a good thing, although I've never OWNED genelec's. Mixed on them a whole bunch before starting to carry my own speakers (LSR's) though. Quote:
Originally Posted by BillSimpkins My mixes have translated much better after I switched from Genelec to the JBL LSR.
The Genelecs sound great, but that IS the problem. They are too pretty and not very revealing. I used Genelecs for 10 years straight along with a pair of Westlakes. |
Midrange is translating so well for me with the LSR's. The sub worked out well for me as well, although like any sub, it takes awhile to dial it in. Youre dead on about the Genelec's. They sound too pretty. That and they fatigue the crap out of me after a long day.
But everyone hears different and has to find their own way. You can mix on anything if you have enough experience on them and can stand them over long mix sessions....  | |
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Yeah the top end on the genelecs can wear my ears out pretty quick, but I've found the midrange to translate well. I've used them for a long time so they feel like home to me.
I've worked with nearfield LSRs in the past (4328?), but used them in a mostly untreated room so I cant give them a fair evaluation. Either way 50hz isnt deep enough for my needs. I'd really like to get somewhere in the 30s.
I have used a pair of midfield LSRs (6332 if i remember correctly) and the mixes turned out beautifully, but these probably wouldn't suit my room.
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