21st August 2012
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#1 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 818
Thread Starter | CLA on Pensado's |
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22nd August 2012
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#2 | | Gear addict
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Talks a lot, but says nothing.  Not a single word on eq's, plug-in's, etc. Only 3-4 compressor settings for typical instruments and that info you can find in every engineer mixing book or in every online topic.
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22nd August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Hollywood, California
Posts: 2,837
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Originally Posted by FoxMulderFBI Talks a lot, but says nothing.  Not a single word on eq's, plug-in's, etc. Only 3-4 compressor settings for typical instruments and that info you can find in every engineer mixing book or in every online topic. | He actually said a lot. You just weren't paying attention.
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22nd August 2012
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#4 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2011
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LOL
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23rd August 2012
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#5 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2007 Location: N. Ireland
Posts: 386
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Is there a re-run of this I can watch anywhere guys?
Cheers, Mark.
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23rd August 2012
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#6 | | Banned
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 1,553
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Originally Posted by FoxMulderFBI Talks a lot, but says nothing.  Not a single word on eq's, plug-in's, etc. Only 3-4 compressor settings for typical instruments and that info you can find in every engineer mixing book or in every online topic. | You were hoping for compressor settings? |
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23rd August 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2012
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it was great seeing him. thanks pensado!
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24th August 2012
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#8 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: London
Posts: 61
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Originally Posted by valjean24601 Is there a re-run of this I can watch anywhere guys?
Cheers, Mark. | Hey Mark. Watch all the episodes here: http://pensadosplace.tv/ :-)
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24th August 2012
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#9 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by colonel_sanders | I thought it had to be watched live. Am I missing something?
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24th August 2012
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#10 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2007 Location: N. Ireland
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Originally Posted by colonel_sanders | Ah man thanks a million for the link, much appreciated
Cheers, Mark.
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24th August 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Utah
Posts: 534
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I think it's more about an approach and attitude. Once you understand the WHY the details are not important.
Compressor settings? You have to know what to listen for. He has a process that I understand having been under the gun, to kick out mixes fast on an SSL, you just go!!
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24th August 2012
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#12 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden
Posts: 632
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Originally Posted by FoxMulderFBI Talks a lot, but says nothing.  Not a single word on eq's, plug-in's, etc. Only 3-4 compressor settings for typical instruments and that info you can find in every engineer mixing book or in every online topic. | I think it was great, very interesting... what did you want to know, something special?
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24th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear addict
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I thought there were several really crucial nuggets of info that he imparted in that interview. A really good watch and I for one am glad that the interview didn't descend into talk about compressor settings and so forth. I'd much rather hear about the mindset and attitude to mixing than any of the technical jargon that anyone can read about online.
Cheers, Mark.
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24th August 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Easily the second best episode (after the Eric Valentine), even if don't like his mixes that much. Thanks!
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24th August 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by valjean24601 I thought there were several really crucial nuggets of info that he imparted in that interview. A really good watch and I for one am glad that the interview didn't descend into talk about compressor settings and so forth. I'd much rather hear about the mindset and attitude to mixing than any of the technical jargon that anyone can read about online.
Cheers, Mark. | +1 really, and like an tracking/mix engineer myself, and as mentioned in this clip (Ive said it in here before) how can you not like the drums in Paramores - Brand New Eyes (which was the album he was trying to recall) |
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24th August 2012
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#16 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Ontario Canada
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Great show. I agree, once you are past a certain point, it is all mindset and different ways to approach something and not about settings.....could be a pick-up and could be a drag racer. Love it.
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24th August 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: los angeles
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Philosophy is more important than details. Don't miss the forest for the trees.
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24th August 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden
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Agree!
One thing that strikes my mind is, there´s alot of ppl thinking... ok I need an SSL and some 1176, neves, pultecs.... etc.... but...
...if you´re asking for compression settings and eq settings to make it sound like CLA, you´re way off, like he says... try to find a way to beat him instead! (He has found his way, which he`s explaining here and there, go figure it out and try improve it, at least dont get upset when he is not telling you what he does, absurd)
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24th August 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Ontario Canada
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Originally Posted by Showcase Agree!
at least dont get upset when he is not telling you what he does, absurd) | At one point I think he said he goes overboard with fader moves at LOW monitoring levels......and when you turn it up its really exciting... That is his insight into his style and I like it |
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25th August 2012
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#20 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Utah
Posts: 534
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I think his mixes are good, but what makes him shine is..
A. He has the ability to mix in a way people like and are use to hearing.
B. Everybody talks about him so he must be good...(mixing is subjective no??)
C. He knows his shit, but there is no mystery... It's called mixing.
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25th August 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: London
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Originally Posted by Joe Haze I think his mixes are good, but what makes him shine is.. | Consistency
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25th August 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Utah
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Yes, and that is due to his ability to set clients straight upfront and have a process that doesn't fail him. Most top mixers seem to have these common traits. A good team and a consistent process.
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25th August 2012
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#23 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2010
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Originally Posted by cyjanopan easily the second best episode (after the eric valentine), even if don't like his mixes that much. Thanks! | drumbrella!!!
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25th August 2012
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#24 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2003 Location: Bowmanville,Ontario
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I love the fact he's still trying to figure out what Clearmountain's doing! LOL
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25th August 2012
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#25 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by cinealta Philosophy is more important than details. Don't miss the forest for the trees. | Really?? if you want great philosophy with great examples and with lots of knowledge and info, watch the shows with JJP and Michael brauer...the CLA Show was so of the same "I am a badass, I am so good, I am so competitive"...we already know that...
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25th August 2012
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#26 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by FoxMulderFBI Talks a lot, but says nothing.  Not a single word on eq's, plug-in's, etc. Only 3-4 compressor settings for typical instruments and that info you can find in every engineer mixing book or in every online topic. | I agree with you, a lot of self promotion and a lot of very basic average mixers talking, nothing fancy, nothing philosophically deep, nothing interesting for a technical point of view.
Move the faders, do not solo the vocals, I am competitive!! come on, we know CLA could share much better things to us.!
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25th August 2012
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#27 | | Banned
Joined: Apr 2012
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So, some of you guys were dissapointed that he didn't tell you all of the stuff he does on music he mixes?
Hearing about how he approaches a mix and his general philosophy is of no value?
He does what the tracks he is mixing call for.
What those tracks require is unique to only themselves.
He is mixing the tracks given to him using his prefered techniques and you are mixing the tracks given to you.
However he sets compressors on the music he is mixing has very little relevance to how compressors might be set on different music.
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25th August 2012
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#28 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by fnninns So, some of you guys were dissapointed that he didn't tell you all of the stuff he does on music he mixes?
Hearing about how he approaches a mix and his general philosophy is of no value?
He does what the tracks he is mixing call for.
What those tracks require is unique to only themselves.
He is mixing the tracks given to him using his prefered techniques and you are mixing the tracks given to you.
However he sets compressors on the music he is mixing has very little relevance to how compressors might be set on different music. | correct, but the level of how he can explain the philosophy behind his mixing vision is very poor, maybe he do not have the ability to resume and share deep information in a philosophical way as JJP, M. Brauer and others can .... but not even batters box was actually interesting.
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25th August 2012
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#29 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by henge I love the fact he's still trying to figure out what Clearmountain's doing! LOL | well you know I thought it was funny when I saw Bob Clearmountain samples on CLA's hard drive. |
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25th August 2012
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#30 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2008 Location: Sweden
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CLA sure was sniffing a lot in this weeks show. Always makes me suspicious |
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