Actual Proof

macr0w · 15th June 2006

Watch this

not_so_new · 15th June 2006

WOW... I don't know what is more impressive there. Pretty amazing.

jhg · 15th June 2006

Damn!
(and my first attempt with emoticons)

neve1073 · 15th June 2006

yeah! that was worth clicking!!!

Kingtone · 15th June 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhg

Damn!

i second that

macr0w · 15th June 2006

That $hit is awesome. Does anybody know what kind of box is that guy playing?

cramseur · 15th June 2006

Looks like an Alesis HR-16 drum machine.

This is some killer playing!

nukmusic · 15th June 2006

now all they need is a box that works like a real bass gtr...LOL

tight

Dopamine · 15th June 2006

Holy crap! I wish they showed a close up of his fingers! All that on a $100, 20 yr old drum machine.

Jax · 15th June 2006

Amazing!

thumbsup thumbsup

Makes me want to walk around with a drum machine on a frame in front me.. kind of like how Jimi was never without his guitar.

If only I had the time...

Jax · 15th June 2006

Makes me wonder what he can do on a real kit!

Maybe very little??

But somehow I doubt it.

adrianex · 15th June 2006

Nice!!!!

JohnNy C · 15th June 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_so_new

WOW... I don't know what is more impressive there. Pretty amazing.

Haha, my thoughts exactly. Pretty amazing stuff.

henryrobinett · 15th June 2006

That's great.

AdamJay · 15th June 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopamine

Holy crap! I wish they showed a close up of his fingers! All that on a $100, 20 yr old drum machine.

i wonder if he's using it as a controller only, with the sounds loaded onto the MPC in the background.

flail19 · 15th June 2006

Coolest thing I have seen in years.

theblotted · 15th June 2006

that's really cool...

altho i can't help but notice, if you carefully watch the drummer's right leg.. it stays so still it looks like a fake leg.

abit · 15th June 2006

Nothing can beat 50c anyway..

SoulSpace · 15th June 2006

I mean homeboy was playing on PADS and it sounded pretty close to a drum set, although every snare hit sounded pretty much the same (not his fault).

Thank you for that. Although if he had skills on a real set, this would have been OUTRAGEOUS. Probably he does, maybe he doesn't, but a real drum set would have been in a whole different DIMENSION. I mean he would have been hitting the cymbals with different feels, blah, blah, blah....

I will say this, the "magical" piece of this was the bass player, and he was playing an actual BASS.

-There's nothing like real instruments and real players playing their instruments.

This is coming from a keyboard player who uses loops, drum machines, samples, and everything else to approximate real players....when I don't have them.

Jax · 15th June 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulSpace

Thank you for that. Although if he had skills on a real set, this would have been OUTRAGEOUS. Probably he does, maybe he doesn't, but a real drum set would have been in a whole different DIMENSION. I mean he would have been hitting the cymbals with different feels, blah, blah, blah....

Hey Soulspace - I'm not saying you don't know this - but there are alot of people who aren't aware that people can and do actually play a real drumkit as well as this guy does on pads. I've seen people like Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Tony Williams and Max Roach (who takes it to a completely different dimesion than any of these guys) do things on a drumkit that the common man would not believe or know how to understand - far more astounding than what's going on in that clip - if you can fathom it.

It's worth it to anyone who likes this clip to go check out the world's best drummers and see what can be done with the instrument.

SoulSpace · 15th June 2006

There is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING,

that gets close to a real drummer. I have ALL of the drum approximation programs, but unless I have a drummer and a bass player laying down the groove, it is not happening....to me.

I will say this, I am just sick of drum and bass approximation programs. Lot's of very successful people put together pretty solid tunes using these programs. They do it every day.

But I like real people, playing real instruments. That's the direction I am going in now.

Dano

JDN · 15th June 2006

This was very cool...did look like an HR-16. I think if anything this is a testament to the use of electronics. Frankly, the bass player wasn't nearly as solid or tight or dynamic as the "electronic" drummer.

DeadPoet · 15th June 2006

Too bad the title is wrong. It is actually the tune called "4 a.m." from the album MrHands (1979) with Jaco Pastorius on bass and i think Tony Williams on drums (not sure about drummer).

AFAI could tell from the video, the bassist is playing a transcription of the (incredibly difficult) bassline.

other than that: great video! Young guys embracing new technology and being creative with it (could be translated to vintage vs new gear, but I'd better put my flame suit on now..)

Herwig

Glenn Kuras · 15th June 2006

Guess I need to blow off the dust on my old HR16.

Anyone seen my midi card?

Glenn

kevinc · 15th June 2006

HA !!!

COOL !!!

warhead · 15th June 2006

I'd be willing to bet that the guy can play like that on a drum kit, a non-drummer could not come up with all of those licks in my opinion.

War

macr0w · 15th June 2006

As a drummer for the last 20 years I would say that no one could play a drum machine like that and not be able to play a real drum set. Rhythm is rhythm I don't care how you slice it. Either you have it or you don't.

goldphinga · 15th June 2006

wrong.! the tune is actual proof from the album thrust and the bass player is improvising, not playing a transcription.

byk · 15th June 2006

Amazing!

Kamurah · 16th June 2006

Hot Damn! I don't give a rats ass if it's a drum machine, time machine, ATM machine, machine gun, washing machine, sewing machine....whatever....

Those cats can play!

Love it! Just goes to show it's all in the feel.....not whats spinning on your reel....

15th June 2006	#1
macr0w Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Charlotte N.C. Posts: 1,092 Thread Starter	Actual Proof Watch this

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macr0w Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Charlotte N.C. Posts: 1,092 Thread Starter	That $hit is awesome. Does anybody know what kind of box is that guy playing? __________________ Rocknrolll doez not need spell check pee-pole! www.clearspotrecording.com

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nukmusic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, TX / New Orleans, LA Posts: 4,667	now all they need is a box that works like a real bass gtr...LOL tight __________________ . Docta'J aka Big NUK Practice Makes Progress www.twitter.com/nukmusic

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theblotted Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,304	that's really cool... altho i can't help but notice, if you carefully watch the drummer's right leg.. it stays so still it looks like a fake leg. __________________ "You can imagine where it goes from here." "He fixes the cable?"

15th June 2006	#19
SoulSpace Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 264	Just goes to show that MUSICIANS rule the day! I mean homeboy was playing on PADS and it sounded pretty close to a drum set, although every snare hit sounded pretty much the same (not his fault). Thank you for that. Although if he had skills on a real set, this would have been OUTRAGEOUS. Probably he does, maybe he doesn't, but a real drum set would have been in a whole different DIMENSION. I mean he would have been hitting the cymbals with different feels, blah, blah, blah.... I will say this, the "magical" piece of this was the bass player, and he was playing an actual BASS. -There's nothing like real instruments and real players playing their instruments. This is coming from a keyboard player who uses loops, drum machines, samples, and everything else to approximate real players....when I don't have them.

15th June 2006	#2
not_so_new Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,695	WOW... I don't know what is more impressive there. Pretty amazing.

15th June 2006	#3
jhg Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 474	Damn! (and my first attempt with emoticons)

15th June 2006	#4
neve1073 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,275	yeah! that was worth clicking!!!

15th June 2006	#7
cramseur Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cedarhurst, NY USA Posts: 1,095	Looks like an Alesis HR-16 drum machine. This is some killer playing!

15th June 2006	#9
Dopamine Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,903	Holy crap! I wish they showed a close up of his fingers! All that on a $100, 20 yr old drum machine.

15th June 2006	#10
Jax Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,763	Amazing! thumbsup thumbsup Makes me want to walk around with a drum machine on a frame in front me.. kind of like how Jimi was never without his guitar. If only I had the time...

15th June 2006	#12
adrianex Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 752	Nice!!!!

15th June 2006	#14
henryrobinett Gear Guru Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 10,217	That's great.

15th June 2006	#16
flail19 Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 760	Coolest thing I have seen in years.

15th June 2006	#18
abit Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Posts: 825	Nothing can beat 50c anyway..

15th June 2006	#21
SoulSpace Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 264	Totally agree There is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, that gets close to a real drummer. I have ALL of the drum approximation programs, but unless I have a drummer and a bass player laying down the groove, it is not happening....to me. I will say this, I am just sick of drum and bass approximation programs. Lot's of very successful people put together pretty solid tunes using these programs. They do it every day. But I like real people, playing real instruments. That's the direction I am going in now. Dano

15th June 2006	#22
JDN Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 738	This was very cool...did look like an HR-16. I think if anything this is a testament to the use of electronics. Frankly, the bass player wasn't nearly as solid or tight or dynamic as the "electronic" drummer.

15th June 2006	#23
DeadPoet Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,282	Too bad the title is wrong. It is actually the tune called "4 a.m." from the album MrHands (1979) with Jaco Pastorius on bass and i think Tony Williams on drums (not sure about drummer). AFAI could tell from the video, the bassist is playing a transcription of the (incredibly difficult) bassline. other than that: great video! Young guys embracing new technology and being creative with it (could be translated to vintage vs new gear, but I'd better put my flame suit on now..) Herwig

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Glenn Kuras Gear Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,003	Guess I need to blow off the dust on my old HR16. Anyone seen my midi card? Glenn __________________ Glenn Kuras GIK Acoustics USA GIK Acoustics Europe 770 986 2789 (USA) +44 (0) 20 7558 8976 (UK) See the NEW Soffit Bass Trap

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kevinc Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Beantown Posts: 2,462	HA !!! COOL !!!

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warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,910	I'd be willing to bet that the guy can play like that on a drum kit, a non-drummer could not come up with all of those licks in my opinion. War __________________ Warren Dent - Owner of: www.ZenProAudio.com Where You Get Gear Now & Zen Email via Gearslutz

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goldphinga Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,328	wrong.! the tune is actual proof from the album thrust and the bass player is improvising, not playing a transcription.

15th June 2006	#29
byk Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 197	Amazing!

16th June 2006	#30
Kamurah Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 390	Holy Nimble Phalanges Batman! Hot Damn! I don't give a rats ass if it's a drum machine, time machine, ATM machine, machine gun, washing machine, sewing machine....whatever.... Those cats can play! Love it! Just goes to show it's all in the feel.....not whats spinning on your reel....

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