bump me bollix. It's a very good comp for drums. I rarely use compression on drums (well, tape) but its a very tight snare comp and good on the two bus as well as room mics. It has a nice sparkle to it and for that matter won't squeeze the life out out of drums. Try slow attack on the drum buss. Works very well.
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bump me bollix. It's a very good comp for drums. I rarely use compression on drums (well, tape) but its a very tight snare comp and good on the two bus as well as room mics. It has a nice sparkle to it and for that matter won't squeeze the life out out of drums. Try slow attack on the drum buss. Works very well.
Cool. Thanks for the info. The only negative I have been able to find on the unit is that it doesn't seem to hold low end very well (kick or bass). Have you found this to be true? I want to make sure I'm not loosing my transients on my kicks. Thanks
Cool. Thanks for the info. The only negative I have been able to find on the unit is that it doesn't seem to hold low end very well (kick or bass). Have you found this to be true? I want to make sure I'm not loosing my transients on my kicks. Thanks
It gives a distorted sound with bass if you have the release setting too fast. I think the RNC does faster than usual release settings, so all you need to do is turn up the release to something normal if you hear any of the distortion. I don't think it will be a problem on kick transients.
disclaimer this was in a live setting: we had a rack of 6 rnc's at a club i used to work at while the other comps were getting fixed. my favorite use for them was a parellel squashed drum bus and inserted on bass. they're pretty damn versatile
I use an RNC as my drum parallel on almost every mix I do. Sometimes I smash the crap out of the drums and pepper it in, something just some nice smooth compression that's pretty big in the mix. The unit has a lot of flexibility, between ration and threshold settings and timing you can really do a lot with an RNC.
Might be a matter of taste but I've found that just about any comp I have will do a better job on drums than the RNC. Great for most vocals and acoustic guitars IMHO but I would never use it on drums unless that's all I had.
Might be a matter of taste but I've found that just about any comp I have will do a better job on drums than the RNC. Great for most vocals and acoustic guitars IMHO but I would never use it on drums unless that's all I had.
Seems to suck the life out of drums in my opinion. I've got 5 or 6 comps to choose from however. My favorites for drums: Shure SE-30, and after that, original Joe Meek comp.
For you guys that are using the RNC as a parallel drum crush box...Do you really find it to be better than a plug-in for that purpose?
I usually set drum parallel compression to all out stun and use it to bring up the RMS levels of drums as a whole. Sometimes I'll set the attack a little loose to add some punch. For this I've found that plugs are usually better behaved with better fidelity (not character...fidelity).
For you guys that are using the RNC as a parallel drum crush box...Do you really find it to be better than a plug-in for that purpose?
I usually set drum parallel compression to all out stun and use it to bring up the RMS levels of drums as a whole. Sometimes I'll set the attack a little loose to add some punch. For this I've found that plugs are usually better behaved with better fidelity (not character...fidelity).
I've had an RNC for about 6 years. I liked it when I first got it and used it on everything because it was all I had.
Since then DBX 162 VU has seen my drum para comp duty and it's done it well.
I actually tried the RNC about 2 months ago on a SNR para and it was suprisingly good and dense. No supernice and ~10ms attack and fastest release (0.2ms? Whatever the left is). Gets the grit in there.
Mostly I have enough comps to cover the job so it doesn't get used, but I was really glad to have it.
I'll take an RNC over a plugin comp any day. I've used most of the waves, URS CSP, The Glue, blah blah. I like dbx 160a over any plugin too.
I've had an RNC for about 6 years. I liked it when I first got it and used it on everything because it was all I had.
Since then DBX 162 VU has seen my drum para comp duty and it's done it well.
I actually tried the RNC about 2 months ago on a SNR para and it was suprisingly good and dense. No supernice and ~10ms attack and fastest release (0.2ms? Whatever the left is). Gets the grit in there.
Mostly I have enough comps to cover the job so it doesn't get used, but I was really glad to have it.
I'll take an RNC over a plugin comp any day. I've used most of the waves, URS CSP, The Glue, blah blah. I like dbx 160a over any plugin too.
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Good to hear. I got the RNC from a guy for $25 (yeah I know hate me). I have never used them mostly because of the "hype". I have plenty of other hard ware comps (dbx 160x's, 1176s, Orbans, GSSL, ect...) but for sure have been looking for something a little more transparent. Sometimes I like my drum buss to be compressed and full with out a lot of squash. For $25 bucks I couldn't pass this comp up!
That's interesting....I'm admittedly short on "high-end" outboard...But I have some hardware to play with.
As far as DBX goes...I've got 903's. A couple of modded ones and a few stock from various generations. While the modded ones fair better, I still don't care for any of them for drum parallel crush duties. I have some Aphex 9000 stuff too including a pair of Expressors, but I haven't stereo linked them and tried yet. They're always doing something else.
As mentioned above, I find that I can usually dial in a more "transparent" drum parallel crush with the Sonitus comp than I can with any hardware I have. When I want full out nuclear assault...I'll send them through a ProVLA whacking full scale GR and not think twice about it. The DBX stuff is too polite for that. Cool....But too polite.
I've recently played around with the buss comp on the SSL 9000...I didn't get to mess with it much...But could definitely see the appeal. I need to get one in and run it through it's paces.
For you guys that are using the RNC as a parallel drum crush box...Do you really find it to be better than a plug-in for that purpose?
I usually set drum parallel compression to all out stun and use it to bring up the RMS levels of drums as a whole. Sometimes I'll set the attack a little loose to add some punch. For this I've found that plugs are usually better behaved with better fidelity (not character...fidelity).
I use a console with a tape machine or RADAR, so there are no plug ins in my room. With the RNC, with it's two modes, quite variable controls on all of the parameters, and simplicity I can make it do just about anything I'd like it to do on drum parallel. It's super fast if desired, and can crush the living daylights, and get the hell out of the way really fast to bring out a lot of sustain. I use it that way quite a bit. Other times I'll slow it down or change the amount of GR and have the drum mix quite different.
I use a console with a tape machine or RADAR, so there are no plug ins in my room.
A nice looking Neotek it is too. I like Neotek consoles.....but that's off topic.
Has anyone here used the RNC, RNLA or PBC-6A on the main drum buss rather than just parrallel? How do they compare? I have not used in FMR gear, but the various models look very interesting at the price points they are.
A nice looking Neotek it is too. I like Neotek consoles.....but that's off topic.
Has anyone here used the RNC, RNLA or PBC-6A on the main drum buss rather than just parrallel? How do they compare? I have not used in FMR gear, but the various models look very interesting at the price points they are.
Cool. I say that video a couple of days ago but thought I would ask others who have used it on a regular basis. I would love to hear from more people on the subject.
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