headphones for tracking drums in the same room

[cchord59]

The studio I am is going to move to has a the control room in the live room for a while, untill I get enough money to build a control room. so I want to get some headphones that will give me as much isolation as possible, but still have quite accurate sound. any suggestions? anyone used noise cancelling headphones for this application.

Obviously I'll still have to listen back, but it would be nice to kind of be able to hear whats going to tape.

[doug_hti]

i like sony 7509s a lot...i don't play drums, but they provide quite good isolation and are efficient and can really be crunchy enough for the drummer to hear, as opposed to k240s.

I hate AT headphones

another option is to get some SHure E3's or E4s for isolation....although there will be insufficient low end.

Sometimes a sweat headband worn on top of headphones can help to contain the isolation, just make sure the drummer can still rip it off if an "accident" happens....

[StuartMac]

Originally Posted by cchord59

The studio I am is going to move to has a the control room in the live room for a while, untill I get enough money to build a control room. so I want to get some headphones that will give me as much isolation as possible, but still have quite accurate sound. any suggestions? anyone used noise cancelling headphones for this application.

Obviously I'll still have to listen back, but it would be nice to kind of be able to hear whats going to tape.

Drummers in my place use either Extreme Isolation headphones or Beyer DT300s.

[jindrich]

funny how someone can read and understand just the opposite of what it should be understood.

if im not mistake the original poster needs isolating cans for the ENGINEER.

im using sennheiser 280 which gives you around 32dB isolation and sound quite nice too. have not tried them with a mad drummer beside me though.

[StuartMac]

Originally Posted by jindrich

funny how someone can read and understand just the opposite of what it should be understood.

if im not mistake the original poster needs isolating cans for the ENGINEER.

im using sennheiser 280 which gives you around 32dB isolation and sound quite nice too. have not tried them with a mad drummer beside me though.

Ah. Very true!

Well, in that case I'd recommend Extreme Isolation headphones or Beyer DT300s.

[earldrum]

Hi All:

Being a drummer and engineer my favorite headphones are the Metrophones for tracking and getting drum & electic guitar sounds. I use the the sennheiser HD 280 headphones for everything else. When it comes to isolation the Metrophones block out the drums or loud electric guitar in the room and my ears are used to the sound of these phones.

There are a few companies that make headphones using the Sony 7506 design. One company is GK-music that makes a set of headphones called UltraPhones. These headphones have the Sony 7506 studio monitor headphone components built in. They have other headphones that I have for tracking that are okay, but not favorites. Also, they are very helpful company if you have a problem with their headphones.

There is one other company that makes "race car style" isolation phones that sound great and have the 7506 components, but I can't remember the name. These are more expensive, but they have really isolate the instruments in the room.

Earl

[hawaii82]

+1 for the Extreme Isolation headphones

[rlnyc]

another vote for the metrophones. i use them on drummers to prevent bleed of the click or anything else. i use them while tracking vocals for the same reason, and i like to put them on with nothing in them to save my ears when a band is bashing out a rehearsal or working on arrangements.

best,
rlnyc

[retarded]

SEnnheiser HD280 Pro or Ultrasone Proline 750.

[cchord59]

Originally Posted by jindrich

funny how someone can read and understand just the opposite of what it should be understood.

if im not mistake the original poster needs isolating cans for the ENGINEER.

im using sennheiser 280 which gives you around 32dB isolation and sound quite nice too. have not tried them with a mad drummer beside me though.

yes thats correct.

I've read on another thread that some people really like the beyer dynamics 770m, but I have never used them. the closest set that I've used that gives me some isolation are the sennheiser 280s

[warhead]

Extreme Isolation work very well, Beyer DT770"M" for better fidelity and similar iso. The bass response of the DT770M is very nice, makes it easy for a drummer to hear the bassist during tracking.

War

[JGP]

I record drums in a one room studio too. I actually prefer it-except for drums! In-ear phones isolate way better than headphones. I use etymotic er4's with custom ear molds. The non custom ones you stick in your ears are way too uncomfortable. I got the Extreme Isolation folks to sell me one of theirs without drivers and I wear those over the etymotics. That's the best isolation I've found-but it's still NG for low freqs,but almost. I think the top of line Shure in ears are also quite good. No headphone gives 32 db of iso, I just don't believe it. Those iso figures are usually measured at 1k, and like I said it's the lows which are tough to isolate-read the fine print on the spec. But the system I site is fine. Once I have my sounds sorted out I can turn them down to a really reasonable low level and still hear well when I'm sitting 4 ft from the drums with a rhythm section all in the room with me and it's fun. Really saves the ears.
I actually love my one room scene because it's so much easier to communicate and we all hear playbacks on the best speakers in the house without having to travel.

[AjD]

Remote Audios. Pricey, but I have come to really rely on mine. I have a shared control room / live room, and I routinely solo snare, kick, etc. with them while a drummer is playing full kit. Work great.

Adam

[cchord59]

those exteme isolation headphones look interesting. But I'm concerned that they are only $90. are the accurate? how is the bass response? I would rather spend the extra money and go for the remote audios if they are more accurate. I already know I like the mdr 7506's.

[Screws]

The EI's claim to give 29db of volume reduction. The Remote Audio's (with the 7506 drivers) give 45db, but they are indeed expensive - $285.00. I've used them every single day for about 3 years and couldn't easily work without them anymore.

[zonkola]

I have both the Beyer DT770 and Extreme Isolation headphones. They both work well in terms of isolation (I'm tracking drums also) but I definitely prefer the sound of the DT770s. To my ears they have better bass response and more balanced overall sound.

[warhead]

Originally Posted by cchord59

those exteme isolation headphones look interesting. But I'm concerned that they are only $90. are the accurate? how is the bass response? I would rather spend the extra money and go for the remote audios if they are more accurate. I already know I like the mdr 7506's.

The Extremes really are very decent headphones and sound fine, their service is excellent also by the way. They have never not taken care of somebody with an issue that I am aware of.

War

[Doublehelix]

+1 for Extreme Isolation - Great headphones and BETTER service!

[StudioTinPanAll]

WOW,
how is it possible that the sennheiser HD-25 is not mentioned....
altough i love my 7509 for drums i do prefer the HD-25
it's also very silent in the room but loud as hell on the right freq's ! (lows)

just try, i bet you'll buy
lol

grtz,

wim

[transfiguration]

High Noise 7506's

[tvanveen]

This topic came up on the TapeOp forum...one of the guys there says when he's setting up drum mics he sets up his DAW so it has a 1/2 second latency and he just listens through his monitors to single hits.

Pretty ingenious if you ask me.

[tINY]

Shure E3 or E4 (or Ety ER6i) IN Ear Monitors - nothing else comes close (well, maybe other IEMs).

IF it's not enough - get the Peltor 10a and put it over the top. I think that's what they make the Extreme Iso phones from.




-tINY

[mbrebes]

For that situation, I use either AKG 271's or Fostex T50's.