new Studio - 165k EUR to spend - ideas?

[indigo]

Best Advise :

Take your money and invest in 'buy to let' properties.

You will make a big bag of money.

Forget all this studio nonsense.

If you REALLY need to do it that much hire a studio/work in one whilst watching your property portfolio flourish.

[Vaiaku]

no, I'm serious about starting a studio. got the building already

[Froombosch]

I would search a bigger room. I got a 5 by 4 by 3 meter room and do not want to try a 5.1. setup in there. Jut to small. I am thinking a building a larger control room......

[jslevin]

It is absolutely insane to spend that much on gear while accepting a poor room design for monitoring right off the bat. Find a better structure and be willing to spend 50K extra on doing so. Take it out of your gear budget. It'll be a better studio for it.

JSL

[airmate]

i don't want to be a smart ass, but i just don't get this kind of questions...

either you have a real vision of what you want to do, or you don't (and then i wonder how one can justify spending so much money).

however, IF you build your studio, i'd make sure the room (treatment) is as close to perfect as it can be. probably you'll need a larger control room, though.

[Vaiaku]

Thank you guys for the comments so far.

Gear-wise, I don't know exactly what I want. There are so many options and possible combination. Anyway, I am not looking for complete gearlists here. It's more about concepts. Like getting a console or just track trough outboard pre's straight into PT. How would you split the money? Just roughly.

Room-wise; I heard some greatsounding CRs of very small size, but most of them were carefully treated. So I think it's possible. The depth of the room is not set yet and could be enlarged if needed.

[airmate]

Originally Posted by Vaiaku

It's more about concepts. Like getting a console or just track trough outboard pre's straight into PT. How would you split the money? Just roughly.

what are you going to do in this studio? rock? jazz? film scores?
i think some more info would be nice.

[ScumBum]

Go buy a house rent it out and get some income from that .

Then go buy a digi 002 rack , Mac computer , 5 speakers and a sub and mix in your bedroom .

[dubrichie]

i say plan what you want to do first. plan long and plan hard.

what aspect of the production of what kind of material do you want to excel / specialise in?

what kind of clientelle are you aiming to attract?

what kind of service do they want?

how best to give it to them in a way that they will like and WILL PAY ENOUGH FOR?

how best to make a regular, dependable income from doing this by SELLING IT?

THEN get into what kind of building you need, and what kind of gear.

like someone else said above, you need to have a really crystal clear idea of the kind of studio you NEED to do the kind of work you WANT to do and how you're going to SELL it.

if you approach the entire proposition in this fashion the way in which you should approach your equipment spec will become clear. call it mystical if you like.

ya dig?

regards,

richie.

[jindrich]

Hallo,
if you really want to put 165k in such a small control room, my advice is don't do it.


The reason people -or myself for instance- book time in a studio in the era of DAWs is for the WHOLE experience. That means, in no particular order:

-top nocht gear
-great engineer/producer/assistants
-BIG good sounding rooms, with big monitors and a big couch leather on the back of the CR
-other ammenities: KitKats, Playstation, Sat-TV, Internet..
-possibility to hang out with other musicians/people already "in the industry"


if you don't have ALL those things, they will rather track and mix in somebody's basement/house with a 002, a Neumann TLM103 and Behringer mixer and monitors. Really.


Naja, a AWS900 goes for 80k or more, say 100k with Digi's HD3 cards. Such a desk needs to be paired with similar quality gear. that means, around 25k for mics, 65k for pres, comps and fx, 6k for computer and plugins, 12k in monitors, phone distributors, patch, cables, accessories.
I will add some instruments as well, some great les paul, strat, aGuitar, some amps, some good snare, another 7k.

Now, the AWS900 is going in fact for 225k.
Then you need a good studio (big nice ROOM) to match this gear. Another 225k for the project, and the construction, for a place with a 50sqm CR, 70sqm LR, Leisure room, entrance hall, WC adapted for handicapped people, and store. I assumme you already have the land, not included in those 225k.

Bottom line, you neeed no less than 450k to build a AWS900 studio. Then you have to feed it with clients every week, at the rate it lets you not only pay back the investment but make some money out of it as well.



On the other side, 165k total in gear gets you a PTOOLS studio with a 24 fader Command-8 controller, or maybe with a new Audient or Neotek analog desk.



In either case, get a bigger place. It's the MOST important thing of the studio IMO.


hoffe dass es dir geholfen hat

[blaugruen7]

you are a student of SAE and you have to set up a virtual list for a studio, right?
if "yes" is the answer, do a search on this forum. other students have done this before and posted their lists.

[ArcCirDude]

I invested about that same amount in my studio a couple of years ago. The thing is, I knew exactly the direction I wanted to go as far as recording style, equipment, etc., and I STILL used about six months to organize my plans, do research on equipment, get quotes, think through room treatment, do more research. All the info is there for you on the internet. Think about the way you want to work and do the research. Map out the whole thing on paper. I'd not get hung up on opinions about this gear or that gear. Just buy quality gear. Make up your own mind and be happy. A lot of people here dream about being in your situation. Take your time and use common sense.

Oh, the advice on this thread about your room is good. Think it through...