Using a mixer with built in fx as fx send? Worth it or not?
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21st January 2012
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Using a mixer with built in fx as fx send? Worth it or not?

I have a soundcraft mfxi I think it is and it has built in lexicon fx.

Would it be good to send say a vox track to it for verbs?

Has anyone done this with any other boards not boxes as a hardware unit with good results?

How do the built in fx compare to the real thing?

I have not had a chance to try it yet so that's why I'm askin.
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The 'real thing' like a dedicated digital reverb box? Or the 'real thing' like a plate reverb? Or spring reverb? A reverb chamber? Or... heaven forfend... actually tracking in a physical space with a reverberant ambience?
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If it's what you have, why not use it. I have no clue how the efx sound, but if I had to guess, they are probably like the alex, or lower end mpx series.

Make sure you gain stage for the lowest noise possible, and it will work fine.

Go into the mixer as hot as you can before clipping. Do the same with the efx send. Mix the efx return to taste.

Only one or two added gain stages anyway.

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Sorry I mean substituting a mixer with built-in effects for a hardware box like a PCM 80 or 90.
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That's what I meant. I know.

All the above applies.

Whether you are using this with your daw, or another mixer, or both, what I said applies.

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Originally Posted by NEWTON IN ORBIT View Post
That's what I meant. I know.

All the above applies.

Whether you are using this with your daw, or another mixer, or both, what I said applies.

john
Thanks man I def wanna try it when I get a chance, just curious to see if it's worth trying too
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When it comes to creating sounds nearly everything is worth trying at least once. I mean, unless it costs millions in hours or cash and even then...
Hooking up outboard gear you already own? 15 minutes of your time for a sonic experiment? Why not!!!!!!
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22nd January 2012
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Sorry I mean substituting a mixer with built-in effects for a hardware box like a PCM 80 or 90.
The built in verb is supposed to use the same chip as in the MX-400 which is not a PCM-90, but is not a bad verb, either. One thing to keep in mind is that one dedicated reverb unit like a PCM-90 costs as much as your whole mixer including the built in FX. You don't always get what you pay for but quite often you do.

Give it a try but see if you can A/B with some other options, be they a hardware verb or a high-end reverb plug-in.
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it also depends on the quality of your convertors.

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