Ambient mic for small IEM setup

[multivir]

Hi,

I need an ambient mic for my small IEM setup.
I'm a guitar player and will change from wedges to in ear.
I got a Shure P4M that allows me to mix my vocals and guitar against the FOH signal before going into the main mixer.

I want to use one of the remaining channels for an ambient mic. Since I'm the only one in the band that's using IEMs (the others like it when it's too loud :-) ), I want to keep the setup as small as possible and would rather use a mic that I can either clamp on to something like my rack case or a goose neck that plugs straight into the P4M. I won't have enough space to set up a separate mic stand for it.

I need it to pick up stuff like discussions about set list changes without removing the IEMs, so I assume it should be omni, rather a live than a studio mic which picks up stuff that's happening 5 meters away from me. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

M.

[multivir]

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[travisbrown]

Just get a little boundary mic and throw it down wherever and be done with it. It's so insignificant.

After a couple gigs you'll probably forget about it. You'll get enough from other live mics on stage.

[Draytone]

^^^ What he said...

[multivir]

So is there something like "the SM57 of the boundary mics"?
Something that's affordable, robust and sounds good in most situations?

[Manfrensengensen]

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wi...71c/index.html

[DrFrankencopter]

I've never tried IEMs, so I've got no experience but...

Wouldn't it be better to run a lapel mic on your guitar strap and into your wireless receiver/headphone amp? I thought most of those IEM receiver packs had a jack for ambient mics, and a control to allow them to be muted.

An ambient mic into the PM4 might be what you want if you want a little 'crowd sound' in your monitor mix, but I don't think it's what you want if you're looking to better hear chatter between bandmates. By the time you crank the ambient mic enough to hear the talking won't it overpower your monitor mix?

Cheers

Kris

[multivir]

To be honest - I have no clue if it's going to work out that way - that's why I posted here...
I checked out different brands of wireless IEMs and to my knowledge, the only one who has an aux port for an ambient mic is the Audio Technica. AT also has their own little ambient mic that looks like a cheap lavalier. All other brands that I've looked at (Shure, Sennheiser, Mipro, AKG...) don't have the aux connector at the body pack and would need a mic connected to my personal mixer.