only 1 of mine is exhibiting this behavior. Its odd because the next one is the next serial. The 3 others do not. I cant afford to be without the speaker so I dont know what I'm gonna do eventually. Maybe it will melt off completely and I will be left with some terminator speaker.
My monitors came back today and all I can say is WOW. Like others posted here my 2348P's look absolutely fantastic and new again. My sub is also new again. I have to admit I was really let down in the very beginning when first approaching JBL almost a year ago but they came through and made this right. I will be sending a letter to JBL applauding them for correcting this issue.
My faith has been restored! Time to recalibrate and get things setup again I feel like a little kid on Christmas morning!!
I was thinking of picking up a pair. Now I am hesitant...
If you are talking about new ones - there is NO need to worry as this problem is only with a batch of the speakers... If used, they are probably already exhibiting the issue (if they are going to) just ask the seller to send to JBL first - great speakers
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Guys I am super bummed out- I got my LSR's in early 2008 and just dropped one while working on my studio.. When I picked it back up I noticed the sticky outside.. and of course Googled it and found this forum. I'm bummed because I couldn't live farther away from the service center- and I have the Sub as well. I'm going to call Jenny or that number but If I have to pay shipping I'm screwed. Def bummed out but glad to know this is the problem and it's not something else. I also work in a very clean, smoke free Air Conditioned room.
Yeah, if I'm gonna pay that much for a monitor, I'd like it to have an all-metal cabinet. JBL's own LSR6300 series, as well as Focal and Neumann are there to fill that gap. Sorry JBL.
I'm waiting mine to coming back. Only downside is its taking forever. Now I'm wondering I will keep them or not. Meanwhile I could not sit and wait, I purchased Dynaudio BM5As and loving them.
whats it costing to send the JBL's 4326 to the center?
Are you digging the Dynaudios better than the JBL's?
I find that hard to believe because after I kick in RCM and correct the room EQ, the speakers sound like you're sitting in front of the band playing you a private concert. I don't know how I can ever like a non-corrected speaker ever again.
Just too many room artifacts that start to muddle the frequencies.
I don't think anyones ear is good enough to EQ a room manually and to pinpoint accurately the troublesome frequencies without affecting overall balance.
I also recently added the Alpine Imprint system in my car and again, even worse, trying to identify and tweak troublesome frequencies out is simply a royal, futile PIA. Having spent hours manually fiddling with EQ tweaks, you sit in the car the very next day, and just after you think you think you found the a sweet spot the day before and discover the stereo sounds hollow and vacant the very next day.
I then added the Imprint and like the RCM, I hold a mic at listening level and let the box sent out its chirps and whines a voila, My system sounds like real system again. When I A/B between corrected and non, it truly sounds like two different cars.
I even read somewhere that the best room analyst / sound engineer is only good from day to day. He could be too impatient on a certain day, wax in his ear canals, anything....How can any human consistently tune an environment. It's too relative a job. You can tune a room to sound good, but to flatten a room in a studio to translate?
We can move our speakers around, tune and get a reliable translatable sound which is critical here. As most LSR owners here should agree; electronic, technical, scientific manipulation of room frequencies is the only reliable way to get a consistent "sound" that you can then rely on when translating mixes.
Having said that, anyone got any peanut butter to go with the strawberry jam that is coating the front of my beloved speakers....I mean, really? Sticky speakers? You can't make this up!
i've had these speakers for about 4 years, and i have no idea what happened, but it seems like over time, the front of my speakers, minus the cone.. have this sticky residue on it. i tried to gentley rub it with a rag with the smallest amount of water to see if the sticky residue would go away and it seemed to of made it even worse.
i tried to google my answer on speaker cleaning maintenance and didnt get any answers, so i was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what i could do to
clean the frontside of my speakers.
Yes, I had the same problem. It takes a little time but the monitors CAN be cleaned. You can't use a typical rag though. Just sacrifice 2 clean all cotton t shirts and some warm water. Rub the adhesive off using good pressure and only go in one direction. You will find that you can indeed rub off the sticky adhesive. Once you've gotten nearly all of it off with the damp T, use the dry one to polish it off. At least this is what I did. I had both monitors clean in about an hour or less. (Stick your fingertips through the shirt to get around the tweet and woofer......Carefully lol.)
Guys I am super bummed out- I got my LSR's in early 2008 and just dropped one while working on my studio.. When I picked it back up I noticed the sticky outside.. and of course Googled it and found this forum. I'm bummed because I couldn't live farther away from the service center- and I have the Sub as well. I'm going to call Jenny or that number but If I have to pay shipping I'm screwed. Def bummed out but glad to know this is the problem and it's not something else. I also work in a very clean, smoke free Air Conditioned room.
Guys I am super bummed out- I got my LSR's in early 2008 and just dropped one while working on my studio.. When I picked it back up I noticed the sticky outside.. and of course Googled it and found this forum. I'm bummed because I couldn't live farther away from the service center- and I have the Sub as well. I'm going to call Jenny or that number but If I have to pay shipping I'm screwed. Def bummed out but glad to know this is the problem and it's not something else. I also work in a very clean, smoke free Air Conditioned room.
I don't know if u ever got your JBL's fixed but if not, cheer up! I know how to clean them. Check my post I think it's number 75 or so. No problem, easy fix.
I can't send my 4yr old 4326p and 4312sp @ the moment (moving).
Spoke to Jenny and she said the 4300 series will go through an evaluation period to make sure there is no issues with any components.
My monitors n sub perform fine, they just look like royal shit.
She also told me the enclosure warranty has been extended from a 3 yr warranty to 5 years. Receipt will be needed. This is my last JBL purchase.
I have a pair of JBL 4328s. They're 5 years old and have the same problem as the rest of this thread. I used acetone (nail polish remover) with a soft, clean rag to remove the sticky, rubbery residue. It took quite a bit of work, in a WELL ventilated room, being careful to avoid the cone and tweet - but it did work - ZERO stickiness now. One must be careful not to "overdo" it as there is a layer of something (a paint?) over the base material which will come off too, if one rubs too hard. New housings from JBL would have been nice, but sometimes life is just too short (and I intend to keep these...)
i've had these speakers for about 4 years, and i have no idea what happened, but it seems like over time, the front of my speakers, minus the cone.. have this sticky residue on it. i tried to gentley rub it with a rag with the smallest amount of water to see if the sticky residue would go away and it seemed to of made it even worse.
i tried to google my answer on speaker cleaning maintenance and didnt get any answers, so i was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what i could do to
clean the frontside of my speakers.
thanks
I too had that problem
Being a chemist but a part time musician as well I developed a green non toxic liquid to remove the plasticized film and make it look brand new again. It also conditions the rubberised acrylic coating so it will not return. I should have a video posted on You Tube in a day or so. It takes about 5 minutes per monitor to clean. I haven't determined the platicizer yet but if it is pthylate based it is a plus to get it off as it is a known health hazard. You can reach me at comprochem@aol.com if anyone has questions. I guarantee you will be impressed with the results and how new they will look. No effect on the sound whatsoever.
i experience the same issue as everyone here with my jbl lsr 4328p. i got in contact with jenny, she said to send them in with receipt but i made her aware i was not able to locate it due to moving multiple times; In reply she said to send them in but she wont be able to extend mfg warrenty and the total process at the moment takes 4-5 weeks.I sent my units in (with a copy of this topic) 2 weeks ago for 165 from ny to cali. Hope they fix mine... i will keep you guys updated.
Has anyone ever tried just using Goo Gone directly on the portion that's deteriorating to get rid of the residue? That's what that "solution" in that video looked like to me.
Spoke to jenny yesterday made me aware, jbl will be repairing the entirw caseing of my jbl lsr 4328p, n I should get it back next week !!! I was so happy and relieved.... I def sending her managers a thank you email once I recieve my speakers back. Illl post before and after pics when they come back.
As much a pain in the butt as this has been for you guys with these cabinets, it's very reassuring to see JBL stand up and do the right thing, not for just one person or two, but for dozens. Good for JBL. A solid company who stands behind their products. Rare these days...
I have this same thing with several remote controls.
That soft rubberized finish seems to leach plasticizers or something, makes it sticky and eventually completely unusable.
That would actually be a serious health (poison/carcinogen) hazard . Just think how close you sit to these things daily and inhaling deeply. Or how often you touch them and then , for example, pick your nose.
That would actually be a serious health (poison/carcinogen) hazard . Just think how close you sit to these things daily and inhaling deeply. Or how often you touch them and then , for example, pick your nose.
Wood is good!
That would actually be a serious global health (deforestation/global warming) hazard . Just think how many birds and animals can't sit on a that tree daily, in safety, and inhale deeply the oxygen from it's leaves, then die without their natural habitat. Or how often your going to touch highly acidic ocean water in the near future, then, for example, pick your nose.
The difference is that it can be done responsibly (not clear cutting so there's still trees for the aminals[sic] to sit on).
Here, lemme get that nosegoblin for ya, I've just finished soldering up a few cables.... and here's some paint to huff now that we got yer pipes clear.
We can just do away with speakers altogether and use natural instruments. Oh wait, they mostly use wood too.... Endangered hardwoods from exotic places. Can't do plastic guitars, nobody likes ovations.
So let's go back to hitting rocks on the ground - no instruments, no speakers, no solder. And no pesky PRACTICING. There you go....