Trident Audio 8T - Toft 'Trident Series' ATB (SKAM)!!

TooledUp · 24th March 2006

As many of you might be aware PMI Audio have recently released a new mixer called the 'Trident Series ATB'. This mixer is infact nothing to do with Trident Audio themselves and is being sold under false pretenses.

The name ATB infact is derives from the EQ modules originally designed by John Oram, the Trident Audio designer, they are actually called the 80B.

If anyone has seen this product and likes the look of it I would suggest they visit www.tridentaudio.co.uk and have a look at the real Trident 8T mixer that is similarly priced and is designed by John Oram the original Trident designer.

I myself am nothing to do with Trident Audio and was interested in buying one of these consoles, I spoke to Alan Hyatt recently at a trade show he lied to me. I then found out about the real Trident mixer and also found out what was going on.

I think that the actions of PMI Audio and Alan Hyatt are disgusting. They are not only misleading the public making them think its a Trident mixing desk, they are also using Tridents name and have cheaply tried to replicate their designs.

How do you guys feel about this?

Jeff Goodman · 24th March 2006

Hmmm.

I think you need to do a search for Malcolm Toft.

Best,

Jeff

mr.gefell · 24th March 2006

OH MY GOD!!!!!

AdamJay · 24th March 2006

TooledUp,
does your screen name have anything to do with being a tool?

7161 · 24th March 2006

yeah but didnt toft and oram fall out when they parted company - i thought it was kinda like The Tyrells & the Hennessy's feud from The Big Country - toft designed alot of the 'original'

pmi are only the distributor for Toft and Toft was a main designer for trident and actualy Toft copyrighted the A series design in 1973 under his company, Trident Audio Developments Ltd, (Trident is now owned by Fletcher Electroacoustics)

so in fact isnt orams one the 'copy' in some respects? one of the boffins round here will know surely?

TooledUp · 24th March 2006

The only part of that desk that is rightfully Tofts's is the preamps the rest was originally designed by John Oram and is being used without his consent.

As for the Tools I keep them in the studio.

TooledUp · 24th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7161

yeah but didnt toft and oram fall out when they parted company - i thought it was kinda like The Tyrells & the Hennessy's feud from The Big Country - toft designed alot of the 'original'

pmi are only the distributor for Toft and Toft was a main designer for trident and actualy Toft copyrighted the A series design in 1973 under his company, Trident Audio Developments Ltd, (Trident is now owned by Fletcher Electroacoustics)

so in fact isnt orams one the 'copy' in some respects? one of the boffins round here will know surely?

Thanks for the info, im seing the bigger picture now but with regards to Trident, the company is called Trident Audio Ltd check out the website.

AdamJay · 24th March 2006

this has al been discussed ad-nauseum here.
do a search, please.

i'll be surprised if this thread gets to a 2nd page before its closed down.

TEMAS · 24th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJay

TooledUp,
does your screen name have anything to do with being a tool?

Thats the only thing thats made me laugh all day.

Oh God, I'm bored.

GPl · 24th March 2006

GO AWAY!! FFS, HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU TOOLS GOING TO BORE US TO DEATH. MOVE ON ALREADY!

ddageek · 24th March 2006

Our new member has posted 7 previous times in one he has posted a link to the dealer Sound tools! Inmost posts he has recomended gear carried buy said dealer even inqurieing if a Prism Digital EQ carried by said dealer was compareable to a Pultec esq tube eq!
http://gearslutz.com/board/images/sm...con32.gifGuess WHO CARRIES TRIDENT AND NOT ANY PMI BRANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!http://gearslutz.com/board/images/smilies/nu/icon32.gif
You are being brain washed please be polite and request this thread be removed!

How did you know the rep was lying?
His lips were moving!

We have all been here before again and again also ther is this thing called a search feature!http://gearslutz.com/board/images/sm...lies/piss2.gif

AdamJay · 25th March 2006

ddageek,
it appears that this IS the dealer.

Andrew from SoundTools.co.uk
(see attachment)

What class, blatant muck-raking and slander against a competing product to one that you sell. I hope you weren't trying to get new customers by logging onto Gearslutz, in fact, you may have even lost some existing ones with these crass tactics

Carlos Boll · 25th March 2006

**Tim Farrant** · 25th March 2006

Sorry, but we have had enough of this on GS already. I do not think it's fair to either company that this discussion continues.

24th March 2006	#1
TooledUp Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 33 Thread Starter	Trident Audio 8T - Toft 'Trident Series' ATB (SKAM)!! As many of you might be aware PMI Audio have recently released a new mixer called the 'Trident Series ATB'. This mixer is infact nothing to do with Trident Audio themselves and is being sold under false pretenses. The name ATB infact is derives from the EQ modules originally designed by John Oram, the Trident Audio designer, they are actually called the 80B. If anyone has seen this product and likes the look of it I would suggest they visit www.tridentaudio.co.uk and have a look at the real Trident 8T mixer that is similarly priced and is designed by John Oram the original Trident designer. I myself am nothing to do with Trident Audio and was interested in buying one of these consoles, I spoke to Alan Hyatt recently at a trade show he lied to me. I then found out about the real Trident mixer and also found out what was going on. I think that the actions of PMI Audio and Alan Hyatt are disgusting. They are not only misleading the public making them think its a Trident mixing desk, they are also using Tridents name and have cheaply tried to replicate their designs. How do you guys feel about this?

24th March 2006	#8
AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,825	this has al been discussed ad-nauseum here. do a search, please. i'll be surprised if this thread gets to a 2nd page before its closed down. __________________

24th March 2006	#10
GPl Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,449	GO AWAY!! FFS, HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU TOOLS GOING TO BORE US TO DEATH. MOVE ON ALREADY! __________________ Michael Scott --------------------------------------------- "Two degrees in bebop, a PHD in swing, he's the master of rhythm, he's a rock and roll king" -Lowell George- "In my reality it is important that people who use these tools go into them with both eyes wide fvcking open and evaluate them in the context of their work rather than from the perspective of trying to "keep up with the herd" mentality. Peace." -Fletcher-

24th March 2006	#11
ddageek Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,482	tool -of toft? Our new member has posted 7 previous times in one he has posted a link to the dealer Sound tools! Inmost posts he has recomended gear carried buy said dealer even inqurieing if a Prism Digital EQ carried by said dealer was compareable to a Pultec esq tube eq! http://gearslutz.com/board/images/sm...con32.gifGuess WHO CARRIES TRIDENT AND NOT ANY PMI BRANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!http://gearslutz.com/board/images/smilies/nu/icon32.gif You are being brain washed please be polite and request this thread be removed! How did you know the rep was lying? His lips were moving! We have all been here before again and again also ther is this thing called a search feature!http://gearslutz.com/board/images/sm...lies/piss2.gif

25th March 2006	#12
AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,825	ddageek, it appears that this IS the dealer. Andrew from SoundTools.co.uk (see attachment) What class, blatant muck-raking and slander against a competing product to one that you sell. I hope you weren't trying to get new customers by logging onto Gearslutz, in fact, you may have even lost some existing ones with these crass tactics Attached Thumbnails

24th March 2006	#2
Jeff Goodman Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 244	Hmmm. I think you need to do a search for Malcolm Toft. Best, Jeff

24th March 2006	#3
mr.gefell Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: forest and hills Posts: 1,246	OH MY GOD!!!!!

24th March 2006	#5
7161 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,096	yeah but didnt toft and oram fall out when they parted company - i thought it was kinda like The Tyrells & the Hennessy's feud from The Big Country - toft designed alot of the 'original' pmi are only the distributor for Toft and Toft was a main designer for trident and actualy Toft copyrighted the A series design in 1973 under his company, Trident Audio Developments Ltd, (Trident is now owned by Fletcher Electroacoustics) so in fact isnt orams one the 'copy' in some respects? one of the boffins round here will know surely?

25th March 2006	#13
Carlos Boll Gear addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 442

25th March 2006	#14
Tim Farrant Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,309	Sorry, but we have had enough of this on GS already. I do not think it's fair to either company that this discussion continues. __________________ "Come on, make my day" Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) Visit Buzz Audio

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