Focusrite Liquid Mix

Improv · 24th March 2006, 04:27 AM

I can't quote the source, but here's a link to a Dancetech thread which seems to quote a press release. Focusrite's site is down at the time of this post.

Focusrite Liquid Mix...

It will be interesting to see how seamlessly this integrates with Pro-Tools. Doesn't seem like something Digi would be very happy about.

deft_bonz · 24th March 2006, 07:46 AM

500£ !!??

I can't believe that. I'd say that's a hoax. A usual controller costs around 300-500£, and that's without DSPs.

But a nice idea, indeed

**DrDeltaM** · 24th March 2006, 10:39 AM

Price seems to be too good to be true yes, knowing a stereo Sintefex compressor alone costs like 2000euro or so. And even then, when we compared the Liquid's compressor section to their real counterparts at Lindell's place, we were far from impressed with the Liquid demo unit.

aussie_techie · 24th March 2006, 10:53 AM

looks interesting but nothing on focusrite site
if its real that price cant be right

7161 · 24th March 2006, 02:08 PM

sorry guys... it's 100% real - but we had to take it down until 29th march (there was a tiny editors note in the PR saying it couldnt be published until that date... er... which we and may other apparently missed.

cant wait tho!...

Rab · 24th March 2006, 04:03 PM

"Each channel appears as a separate VST/AU/RTAS effect within the sequencer and will work within all major applications, including Pro Tools."

Looks like MBox just got a whole lot more interesting?

tommymakestapes · 24th March 2006, 04:06 PM

if it's got cute little animations of the gear it emulates I'll buy one.

I mean... Holy crap!

Wiggum, Ralph · 24th March 2006, 04:18 PM

Whoa...It looks like Uad & Powercore has some stiff competition. If the price is correct, than I probably buy, or atleast seriously look into it. D@mn, now I gotta try a Liquid Channel or start reading some reading some threads, inorder for me to know what to expect with this unit...

jlotto · 24th March 2006, 06:06 PM

interesting!

if this is true would buy this in 2 seconds

bmanic · 24th March 2006, 06:19 PM

Anybody wanna buy my Sintefex FX 8000? At least this one can sample whatever gear you want (with moderate success).

- bManic

deft_bonz · 24th March 2006, 06:52 PM

If this is true, I'm also going to buy one plus some extra DSPs for higher sample rates. gosh 500£ for such a product is a bargain, even if you, like me, love & still use analogue hardware.

tommymakestapes · 24th March 2006, 07:03 PM

"love" and "use in my personal studio" are two different worlds sadly.

lozion · 24th March 2006, 08:32 PM

Firewire... Mmm, wonder about latency and sharing the bus with interface and drive.
I hope UA answers this with a Gigabit ethernet UAD-2, a la Waves APA external box.
All new intel Macs and most pc's now use Gigabit ethernet.

RTAS format is great, no need to wrap (and lose AS in the process) the plugs with Fxpansion's but for LE/MP users without delay comp, how will this Focusrite box be manageable? We'll soon find out...

tommymakestapes · 24th March 2006, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozion

Firewire... Mmm, wonder about latency and sharing the bus with interface and drive.
I hope UA answers this with a Gigabit ethernet UAD-2, a la Waves APA external box.
All new intel Macs and most pc's now use Gigabit ethernet.

RTAS format is great, no need to wrap (and lose AS in the process) the plugs with Fxpansion's but for LE/MP users without delay comp, how will this Focusrite box be manageable? We'll soon find out...

If it runs 32 channels with no drain on the CPU then you know... throw an instance of the plug in on every channel even if you're not using it?

Slogun · 24th March 2006, 09:43 PM

Really hope to see this one 'in the flesh' at the Frankfurtmesse next week. Looks awesome

ddageek · 24th March 2006, 10:06 PM

If it will work with a mix system will have to talk to my old freinds the focusrite reps!

jdunn · 25th March 2006, 02:11 AM

Seems like a good concept. I too am not crazy about firewire, but if it works, it'll be a DSP saver for sure. Let's hope it sounds good and doesn't cost too much.

AnalogBob · 25th March 2006, 02:26 AM

Focusrite should give one for free to anyone who bought a LC cough cough

narco · 25th March 2006, 05:13 AM

funny, I emailed focusrite last century offering to help them make a similar unit, before the liquid channel, I wanted a non disclosure agreement they couldn't get their head round so I dropped it, seems like they came up with the concept by themselves after all, albeit 7 years later..

actually this is alot cooler than what I invisaged but still, I was definitely ahead of the times

narco

narco · 25th March 2006, 12:11 PM

jrrshop has it on their site

http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info....2bb2d31b6b7719

looks like the hell deal, although I'm sure native computers will be able to do this in a couple of years anyway.

narco

aussie_techie · 25th March 2006, 12:28 PM

its cheep for 32channels, the LC is pretty damn expencive
i wonder how it works with RTAS and if it induces any latency

godcity · 25th March 2006, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Improv

.... snip....

Doesn't seem like something Digi would be very happy about.

doesn't digidesign own focusrite?

tommymakestapes · 25th March 2006, 07:03 PM

Ok... So I've had a day to calm down. I've been reading a LOT of bad words on the Liquid Channel. If the original is medeocre.. Do I want to actually get one of these things? Do I need DSP Compression and EQ on all my tracks? I do get excited by the thought of being able to but.. practicallity interrupts me sometimes. Theres awesome sounding native solutions. Not to be a downer but this seems like probably just focusrite's way of making the LC worth the reserch and development.

I hope it kicks ass, though. I really do.

tommymakestapes · 25th March 2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godcity

doesn't digidesign own focusrite?

I think Focusrite just did the Pre's for the first Mbox. (I've heard they devoloped the whole thing also)

I believe thats about the extent of their relationchip.

jlotto · 25th March 2006, 07:28 PM

There is bad press in relation to comparisons of the liquid channel and the primo analog gear it's supposed to emulate. Every single plug-in ever made gets that bad press.

But there has to be a reason they cant keep those liquid channels in stock. those things been flying off the shelves.

slaves666 · 25th March 2006, 08:11 PM

If it plays nice with my UAD-1's and Fireface....I'll get one. Its still cheaper than the new Waves SSL plugins, and URS, plus you get a nifty controller, and its portable ;)

narco · 26th March 2006, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymakestapes

Ok... So I've had a day to calm down. I've been reading a LOT of bad words on the Liquid Channel. If the original is medeocre..

if its based on the sintefex algorithms (which I think it is) then its the same sounds that get used (or have been used) at abbey road mastering, if memory serves me right they used them for mastering the lord of the rings trilogy.

At the price I don't think you could go wrong, although like i said, in a few years you could do it all natively

narco

aussie_techie · 26th March 2006, 04:31 AM

its not out yet

AlexLakis · 26th March 2006, 04:59 AM

Yuck. This thing is going to be a nightmare for PCs (it's obviously built for macs.) Your video card is gonna LOVE THIS THING. I can hear my IRQs screaming all ready. Took MANY a tweak to just get the 002 to run on PC. I hate the DIGI 002 because it's firewire. Soooo weak. My RME 9652 was infinitely more stable. Too bad I love Pro Tools.

If this thing is ANYTHING like the Liquid Channel, it'll be pure crap. "Any compressor or EQ in history?" Sounds pretty familiar. Come on, people, wake up.

Why do I need their cruddy DSP when I can run 5 (better) EQs and compressors on every track as it is on my native system (with CPU usage up to around 30%?) I don't think focusrite got the memo. DSP is dead.

IT LOOKS REALLY COOL, THO!! SO NICE AND SHINY!! SHINY SHINY SHINY!!!

P.S. If Liquid Channels are "flying off the shelves," it must be the Ghost of Recording Engineers Past throwing them to the floor in disgust.

Jonboy79 · 26th March 2006, 05:57 AM

I want one, at under a grand its a toy I just can't pass up. Slutty and Greedy go hand in hand.

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24th March 2006, 04:27 AM	#1
Improv Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,367	Focusrite Liquid Mix I can't quote the source, but here's a link to a Dancetech thread which seems to quote a press release. Focusrite's site is down at the time of this post. Focusrite Liquid Mix... It will be interesting to see how seamlessly this integrates with Pro-Tools. Doesn't seem like something Digi would be very happy about.

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deft_bonz Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland Posts: 1,119	500£ !!?? I can't believe that. I'd say that's a hoax. A usual controller costs around 300-500£, and that's without DSPs. But a nice idea, indeed __________________ murat boeyuek pilavci stardustmedia - where stars are born the home for high end dance music

24th March 2006, 10:39 AM	#3
DrDeltaM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,507	Price seems to be too good to be true yes, knowing a stereo Sintefex compressor alone costs like 2000euro or so. And even then, when we compared the Liquid's compressor section to their real counterparts at Lindell's place, we were far from impressed with the Liquid demo unit. __________________ Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane mixing - mastering - audio restoration - plugins http://www.mathewlane.com Digital Audio Product Support Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor http://www.joystick.be

24th March 2006, 02:08 PM	#5
7161 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 540	sorry guys... it's 100% real - but we had to take it down until 29th march (there was a tiny editors note in the PR saying it couldnt be published until that date... er... which we and may other apparently missed. cant wait tho!... __________________ www.7161.com Free music space for artists bands & deejays Free podcasting for artists, bands & deejays

24th March 2006, 10:53 AM	#4
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,951	looks interesting but nothing on focusrite site if its real that price cant be right

24th March 2006, 04:03 PM	#6
Rab Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 537	"Each channel appears as a separate VST/AU/RTAS effect within the sequencer and will work within all major applications, including Pro Tools." Looks like MBox just got a whole lot more interesting? __________________ I don't live for gear.

24th March 2006, 04:06 PM	#7
tommymakestapes Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 399	if it's got cute little animations of the gear it emulates I'll buy one. I mean... Holy crap! __________________ "I do not believe the geeks will inherit the earth. I believe we already have." -R. Emerson

24th March 2006, 04:18 PM	#8
Wiggum, Ralph Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 208	Whoa...It looks like Uad & Powercore has some stiff competition. If the price is correct, than I probably buy, or atleast seriously look into it. D@mn, now I gotta try a Liquid Channel or start reading some reading some threads, inorder for me to know what to expect with this unit...

24th March 2006, 06:06 PM	#9
jlotto Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gotham City Posts: 640	interesting! if this is true would buy this in 2 seconds

24th March 2006, 06:19 PM	#10
bmanic Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 169	Anybody wanna buy my Sintefex FX 8000? At least this one can sample whatever gear you want (with moderate success). - bManic

24th March 2006, 06:52 PM	#11
deft_bonz Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland Posts: 1,119	If this is true, I'm also going to buy one plus some extra DSPs for higher sample rates. gosh 500£ for such a product is a bargain, even if you, like me, love & still use analogue hardware. __________________ murat boeyuek pilavci stardustmedia - where stars are born the home for high end dance music

24th March 2006, 07:03 PM	#12
tommymakestapes Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 399	"love" and "use in my personal studio" are two different worlds sadly. __________________ "I do not believe the geeks will inherit the earth. I believe we already have." -R. Emerson

24th March 2006, 08:32 PM	#13
lozion Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,095	Firewire... Mmm, wonder about latency and sharing the bus with interface and drive. I hope UA answers this with a Gigabit ethernet UAD-2, a la Waves APA external box. All new intel Macs and most pc's now use Gigabit ethernet. RTAS format is great, no need to wrap (and lose AS in the process) the plugs with Fxpansion's but for LE/MP users without delay comp, how will this Focusrite box be manageable? We'll soon find out...

24th March 2006, 09:43 PM	#15
Slogun Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sweden, Malmö Posts: 341	Really hope to see this one 'in the flesh' at the Frankfurtmesse next week. Looks awesome __________________ http://www.servantstudio.com http://www.myspace.com/servantstudio

24th March 2006, 10:06 PM	#16
ddageek Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: galveston an island on to it's self Posts: 680	If it will work with a mix system will have to talk to my old freinds the focusrite reps!

25th March 2006, 02:11 AM	#17
jdunn Head of Bumping Security (B.S) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: in the hills of Southern California Posts: 2,695	Seems like a good concept. I too am not crazy about firewire, but if it works, it'll be a DSP saver for sure. Let's hope it sounds good and doesn't cost too much. __________________ Jason Dunn 5 Sonic Productions

25th March 2006, 02:26 AM	#18
AnalogBob Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 480	Focusrite should give one for free to anyone who bought a LC cough cough

25th March 2006, 05:13 AM	#19
narco Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Switzerland/New Zealand/guitar case Posts: 2,728	funny, I emailed focusrite last century offering to help them make a similar unit, before the liquid channel, I wanted a non disclosure agreement they couldn't get their head round so I dropped it, seems like they came up with the concept by themselves after all, albeit 7 years later.. actually this is alot cooler than what I invisaged but still, I was definitely ahead of the times narco

25th March 2006, 12:11 PM	#20
narco Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Switzerland/New Zealand/guitar case Posts: 2,728	jrrshop has it on their site http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info....2bb2d31b6b7719 looks like the hell deal, although I'm sure native computers will be able to do this in a couple of years anyway. narco

25th March 2006, 12:28 PM	#21
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,951	its cheep for 32channels, the LC is pretty damn expencive i wonder how it works with RTAS and if it induces any latency

25th March 2006, 07:03 PM	#23
tommymakestapes Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 399	Ok... So I've had a day to calm down. I've been reading a LOT of bad words on the Liquid Channel. If the original is medeocre.. Do I want to actually get one of these things? Do I need DSP Compression and EQ on all my tracks? I do get excited by the thought of being able to but.. practicallity interrupts me sometimes. Theres awesome sounding native solutions. Not to be a downer but this seems like probably just focusrite's way of making the LC worth the reserch and development. I hope it kicks ass, though. I really do. __________________ "I do not believe the geeks will inherit the earth. I believe we already have." -R. Emerson

25th March 2006, 07:28 PM	#25
jlotto Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gotham City Posts: 640	There is bad press in relation to comparisons of the liquid channel and the primo analog gear it's supposed to emulate. Every single plug-in ever made gets that bad press. But there has to be a reason they cant keep those liquid channels in stock. those things been flying off the shelves.

25th March 2006, 08:11 PM	#26
slaves666 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,290	If it plays nice with my UAD-1's and Fireface....I'll get one. Its still cheaper than the new Waves SSL plugins, and URS, plus you get a nifty controller, and its portable ;)

26th March 2006, 04:31 AM	#28
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,951	its not out yet

26th March 2006, 04:59 AM	#29
AlexLakis Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD/L.A. Posts: 3,610	Yuck. This thing is going to be a nightmare for PCs (it's obviously built for macs.) Your video card is gonna LOVE THIS THING. I can hear my IRQs screaming all ready. Took MANY a tweak to just get the 002 to run on PC. I hate the DIGI 002 because it's firewire. Soooo weak. My RME 9652 was infinitely more stable. Too bad I love Pro Tools. If this thing is ANYTHING like the Liquid Channel, it'll be pure crap. "Any compressor or EQ in history?" Sounds pretty familiar. Come on, people, wake up. Why do I need their cruddy DSP when I can run 5 (better) EQs and compressors on every track as it is on my native system (with CPU usage up to around 30%?) I don't think focusrite got the memo. DSP is dead. IT LOOKS REALLY COOL, THO!! SO NICE AND SHINY!! SHINY SHINY SHINY!!! P.S. If Liquid Channels are "flying off the shelves," it must be the Ghost of Recording Engineers Past throwing them to the floor in disgust.

26th March 2006, 05:57 AM	#30
Jonboy79 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 2,029	I want one, at under a grand its a toy I just can't pass up. Slutty and Greedy go hand in hand.

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