Focusrite Liquid Mix

[Improv]

I can't quote the source, but here's a link to a Dancetech thread which seems to quote a press release. Focusrite's site is down at the time of this post.

Focusrite Liquid Mix...

It will be interesting to see how seamlessly this integrates with Pro-Tools. Doesn't seem like something Digi would be very happy about.

[deft_bonz]

500£ !!??

I can't believe that. I'd say that's a hoax. A usual controller costs around 300-500£, and that's without DSPs.

But a nice idea, indeed

[DrDeltaM]

Price seems to be too good to be true yes, knowing a stereo Sintefex compressor alone costs like 2000euro or so. And even then, when we compared the Liquid's compressor section to their real counterparts at Lindell's place, we were far from impressed with the Liquid demo unit.

[aussie_techie]

looks interesting but nothing on focusrite site
if its real that price cant be right

[7161]

sorry guys... it's 100% real - but we had to take it down until 29th march (there was a tiny editors note in the PR saying it couldnt be published until that date... er... which we and may other apparently missed.

cant wait tho!...

[Rab]

"Each channel appears as a separate VST/AU/RTAS effect within the sequencer and will work within all major applications, including Pro Tools."

Looks like MBox just got a whole lot more interesting?

[tommymakestapes]

if it's got cute little animations of the gear it emulates I'll buy one.

I mean... Holy crap!

[Wiggum, Ralph]

Whoa...It looks like Uad & Powercore has some stiff competition. If the price is correct, than I probably buy, or atleast seriously look into it. D@mn, now I gotta try a Liquid Channel or start reading some reading some threads, inorder for me to know what to expect with this unit...

[jlotto]

interesting!

if this is true would buy this in 2 seconds

[bmanic]

Anybody wanna buy my Sintefex FX 8000? At least this one can sample whatever gear you want (with moderate success).

- bManic

[deft_bonz]

If this is true, I'm also going to buy one plus some extra DSPs for higher sample rates. gosh 500£ for such a product is a bargain, even if you, like me, love & still use analogue hardware.

[tommymakestapes]

"love" and "use in my personal studio" are two different worlds sadly.

[lozion]

Firewire... Mmm, wonder about latency and sharing the bus with interface and drive.
I hope UA answers this with a Gigabit ethernet UAD-2, a la Waves APA external box.
All new intel Macs and most pc's now use Gigabit ethernet.

RTAS format is great, no need to wrap (and lose AS in the process) the plugs with Fxpansion's but for LE/MP users without delay comp, how will this Focusrite box be manageable? We'll soon find out...

[tommymakestapes]

Originally Posted by lozion

Firewire... Mmm, wonder about latency and sharing the bus with interface and drive.
I hope UA answers this with a Gigabit ethernet UAD-2, a la Waves APA external box.
All new intel Macs and most pc's now use Gigabit ethernet.

RTAS format is great, no need to wrap (and lose AS in the process) the plugs with Fxpansion's but for LE/MP users without delay comp, how will this Focusrite box be manageable? We'll soon find out...

If it runs 32 channels with no drain on the CPU then you know... throw an instance of the plug in on every channel even if you're not using it?

[Slogun]

Really hope to see this one 'in the flesh' at the Frankfurtmesse next week. Looks awesome

[ddageek]

If it will work with a mix system will have to talk to my old freinds the focusrite reps!

[jdunn]

Seems like a good concept. I too am not crazy about firewire, but if it works, it'll be a DSP saver for sure. Let's hope it sounds good and doesn't cost too much.

[AnalogBob]

Focusrite should give one for free to anyone who bought a LC cough cough

[matt thomas]

funny, I emailed focusrite last century offering to help them make a similar unit, before the liquid channel, I wanted a non disclosure agreement they couldn't get their head round so I dropped it, seems like they came up with the concept by themselves after all, albeit 7 years later..

actually this is alot cooler than what I invisaged but still, I was definitely ahead of the times

narco

[matt thomas]

jrrshop has it on their site

http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info....2bb2d31b6b7719

looks like the hell deal, although I'm sure native computers will be able to do this in a couple of years anyway.

narco

[aussie_techie]

its cheep for 32channels, the LC is pretty damn expencive
i wonder how it works with RTAS and if it induces any latency

[godcity]

Originally Posted by Improv

.... snip....

Doesn't seem like something Digi would be very happy about.

doesn't digidesign own focusrite?

[tommymakestapes]

Ok... So I've had a day to calm down. I've been reading a LOT of bad words on the Liquid Channel. If the original is medeocre.. Do I want to actually get one of these things? Do I need DSP Compression and EQ on all my tracks? I do get excited by the thought of being able to but.. practicallity interrupts me sometimes. Theres awesome sounding native solutions. Not to be a downer but this seems like probably just focusrite's way of making the LC worth the reserch and development.

I hope it kicks ass, though. I really do.

[tommymakestapes]

Originally Posted by godcity

doesn't digidesign own focusrite?

I think Focusrite just did the Pre's for the first Mbox. (I've heard they devoloped the whole thing also)

I believe thats about the extent of their relationchip.

[jlotto]

There is bad press in relation to comparisons of the liquid channel and the primo analog gear it's supposed to emulate. Every single plug-in ever made gets that bad press.

But there has to be a reason they cant keep those liquid channels in stock. those things been flying off the shelves.

[slaves666]

If it plays nice with my UAD-1's and Fireface....I'll get one. Its still cheaper than the new Waves SSL plugins, and URS, plus you get a nifty controller, and its portable

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by tommymakestapes

Ok... So I've had a day to calm down. I've been reading a LOT of bad words on the Liquid Channel. If the original is medeocre..

if its based on the sintefex algorithms (which I think it is) then its the same sounds that get used (or have been used) at abbey road mastering, if memory serves me right they used them for mastering the lord of the rings trilogy.

At the price I don't think you could go wrong, although like i said, in a few years you could do it all natively

narco

[aussie_techie]

its not out yet

[AlexLakis]

Yuck. This thing is going to be a nightmare for PCs (it's obviously built for macs.) Your video card is gonna LOVE THIS THING. I can hear my IRQs screaming all ready. Took MANY a tweak to just get the 002 to run on PC. I hate the DIGI 002 because it's firewire. Soooo weak. My RME 9652 was infinitely more stable. Too bad I love Pro Tools.

If this thing is ANYTHING like the Liquid Channel, it'll be pure crap. "Any compressor or EQ in history?" Sounds pretty familiar. Come on, people, wake up.

Why do I need their cruddy DSP when I can run 5 (better) EQs and compressors on every track as it is on my native system (with CPU usage up to around 30%?) I don't think focusrite got the memo. DSP is dead.

IT LOOKS REALLY COOL, THO!! SO NICE AND SHINY!! SHINY SHINY SHINY!!!

dfegad

P.S. If Liquid Channels are "flying off the shelves," it must be the Ghost of Recording Engineers Past throwing them to the floor in disgust.

[Jonboy79]

I want one, at under a grand its a toy I just can't pass up. Slutty and Greedy go hand in hand.