Essential Pro Tools HD Plugins

Another one for you all:

As mentioed before we pick up a HD1 and 96IO next week.
The plugins shipping with it are:

Focusrite EQ's
Bombfactory Classic Compressors
Reverb One
Maxim
DPP
Drawmer Dynamics

Are these worth learning. The deal is that the plugins are essentially free with the HD rig.

Am I better off selling them (if I can) and getting something else?

I've heard good things about McDSP and VocAlign.
What else are must haves?

I spend a lot of time double/triple tracking guitars and all the drums are triggered from a midi kit.

I should mention that I also have a Multiface and UAD card that I hope to run in the same Mac so I have a couple of nice native effects. (Pultec!!!)

Thanks again,

[Jules]

Sony Oxford with GML option - amazing eq
Waves - x noise - de noising series
Amplitude - Amp Farm on steroids
BF - Sans Amp
Waves L2 (but is it satanic to use it?)

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Filterbank- You can even use the "knob" version if you're so inclined
Voc Align- I can't imagine working without it
Waves Bundles- Get them all. They all prove their worth over time.
Amplitube- Much more useful than Ampfarm to my ears
Soundreplacer- I doubt you'll use this as often, but it's a great tool that I use very often

[etherize]

"Amplitude - Amp Farm on steroids "

you think so? I have amp farm and was planning on getting sans amp...but I guess I should get this too...

I was debating whether to get the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifer recording pre since I have no outboard amps or anything...but I guess I will try Amplitube first....

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I always found myself using SANS AMP before AMP FARM on the Mix + rigs... I haven't checked them on the HD side, but I assume the same.

[Jules]

Sans Amp & Amplitude totally rock!

[C.Lambrechts]

If I had to choose only ONE :


Waves Platinum bundle ...... IMPOSSIBLE wihout them



but I would hate to miss the rest of them ..... especially :

SONY
McDSP
Wavemechanics
Bombfactory
Vocalign
Autotune
Reverb One
.....

[catfish11]

i own the pod, a johnson millineum and the boogie rectifier pre
i do not know how just the software plugs sound, but boy if you are after sweet guitar crunch and clean, the boogie demolishes the other two- no comparison
actually i don't really understand why anyone would need 20 or so amps- none of the greats used more than one at a time.
i bought the pod awhile back but it wouldn't do it with out major help (hhb radius 40 as a front end)
i got the johnson cuz it was cheap at musician's friend it's better but still it ain't no marshall or any tube amp for that matter, but it has much better clean sounds than the pod
the boogie IS THE REAL DEAL, and i think it's tube pre could come in handy for all kinds of good stuff. YMMV, of course

[etherize]

Catfish you have this pre?

MesaBoogie Recording Pre Amp

If that is the one you have any addition info would be great!

On a sidenote...

You know when ya see bands live and they have like 20 Huge marshall cabs behind them....Does that serve any purpose? or are they just trying to impress the groupies?

oh an as far the subject there was this company called audiotoyz I saw at digiworld last year...the sound of there plug-ins were Very good...especially the tape style effects...but I haven't heard about them since

Any one have any info on this company and when the plugs will be released? Also anyone know if the Waldorf Q plug-in is cancelled? And what happened to the Nord guys (Sound Fuel) hopefully AES will have info about all this new stuff...

[catfish11]

just bought it last week
the johnson is on it's way back to musician's friend

THE BOOGIE IS IT!!

FAT! FAT! FAT! TUBE! TUBE! TUBE!
i have not recorded it seeing how my windows based daw is presently in intensive care at the computer hospital
let me put it this way-
people say....oh cool the pod, it really sounds like *fill in blank*
i say COW PIE IN YOUR EYE!
it sounds nothing like *fill in blank*!!
have you ever heard *fill in blank*
if you have and you want to go into recording- GIVE IT UP!!
CUZ YOU'RE EARS BE MESSED UP DUDE!!!
do you see what i'm trying to say,
half this SH*T out there is just that......sh*t
the johnson lists for 2000.00 american, musicians friend was selling it for 450.00 american, i figured 2000.00 american this things got to sound good for that kind of money
WRONG!!!!

can you say GIMMICK!
500 MODELED AMPS OVER 10,000 HIGH QUALITY 64 BIT EFFECTS AT YOU'RE FINGER TIPS!!!!
THIS AMP IS USED EXCLUSIVELY BY JIMI HENDRIX IN THE DOWN HOME IN HEAVEN BAND!!!!.................blow me.

i can't wait to put some keys thru this boogie or maybe even some vocals thru a nice pre or acoustic or....
FAT! FAT! FAT! TUBE! TUBE! TUBE!

run your guitar thru that then the amplitude plug and you might , might.....might.......be ROCK'N!!!!
LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just saw "guns and roses" on the mtv music awards
sad......sad......sad....

[catfish11]

just to make myself clear if i was't already-
you CANNOTtut emmulate tube distortion....... CRUNCH!

there is a reason for stacks of marshalls, volume, especially outside or in a big hall, sound dissipates quickly in this enviroment.
either you are going thru a very large and powerful P.A. or thru you're own rig. however artists have been known to merely stack
them up for looks if you can believe THAT!!!!

Originally posted by catfish11
just to make myself clear if i was't already-
you CANNOTtut emmulate tube distortion....... CRUNCH!

there is a reason for stacks of marshalls, volume, especially outside or in a big hall, sound dissipates quickly in this enviroment.
either you are going thru a very large and powerful P.A. or thru you're own rig. however artists have been known to merely stack
them up for looks if you can believe THAT!!!!

Thanks for all the replies there guys.
I think I'll get the Waves Bundles, McDSP filter/comp banks, Sony EQ.

Are DUY any good? I noticed Turnkey are dumping stock on their TDM plugins and they are going quite cheap.

One thing about guitar preamps and such.

I have Amplitube, Nigel, Guitar Port. I've reviewed POD, Pod Pro when I was back in Oz.

I dont mind some of them for some things but they will never replace a tube amp being pushed in my eyes.

It isnt just the preamp tubes, it isnt even just the power amp tubes that matter. It is also pushing the quad box to breaking point that is a large component of the sound. Then the sound of the room, and the mic techniques and such.
Yes the boogie pre's sound pretty good, but I a/b'd the recording pre with my dual rectifier. No competition imo.
Havent heard the Recto preamp standalone thingy but I cant believe it sounds as good as a full recto rig.

For that type of sound though the amp that captures it best is the Fender Pro Sonic, which I use above and beyond anything else most of the time.
30W Class A, Cascading Gain stages, 2 x 10 combo and sounds huuuuuuge.

Anyone else have this amp?

grggt

[etherize]

Cat you are really gonna make me strain my wallet!

Anyway were you able to get a deal on the Mesa? The dealers I spoke said they can't discount...and I also heard the price is going up is this true? and to how much?

Using it for keys is also my plan too.. I was also told that if you miss this batch you have to wait a year because thats how mesaboogie manufactures...

Also with the Protools Plug in deals are you refering to this place?

http://www.turnkey.uk.com/index.html

I didn't see any prices listed on their site so I sent them an email...I have never heard of them but I am in new york...

[Jules]

"You know when ya see bands live and they have like 20 Huge marshall cabs behind them....Does that serve any purpose? or are they just trying to impress the groupies?"

You can buy light weight, EMPTY Marshall cabs... Bands stack them up for looks, often there are speakers only a few of them...

I am using an Engle Savage 120 special edition head & a custom Engle stereo cab with two different sets of speakers either side (to give me variation in my recordings) I am delighted with it. Gearslutz High End moderator Michael Wagener reccomended it to me as a versitile rock music workhorse amp (it has 4 sounds and a LOT of variation within them) and the cab split idea was my own idea.

For quiet operation I can plug it into a Marshall SE100 speaker load / cab emulator - recording box

Also I use:

Marshall JMP1 - pre amp
Digitech Valve FX - pre amp

Viva la rock!