Combo amp/speaker replacement

drmmrboy · 13th March 2006, 11:14 PM

I need to replace the 12" Jensen in my 1967 Ampeg Gemini I. Does Jensen make a replacement for this speaker, or will I have to get something a little different? I like the way it sounded with the old one.. So, I'd like to stay right there if I could.

orange · 14th March 2006, 10:31 AM

I think it's going to be very unlikely that you are going to get an 'identical' replacement. Try someone like:

http://www.ampaholics.org.uk/VINTAGE%20SPEAKERS.htm (in the UK)

or for a new replacement:

http://www.vintagespeaker.com/search...ctmain=Speaker

Can you get the original speaker reconed - it won't sound exactly the same but at least it will retain some originalilty. This is what I would do.

If the speaker has disappeared then I suggest you try a modern celestion vintage (or whatever you fancy) and see if you like the sound.

Another alternative would be to try ebay ??

drmmrboy · 14th March 2006, 04:03 PM

Hey Orange, thanks for the links.

http://www.jensenvintage.com/
I found this after I first posted, I just wonder if they are still a quality speaker. You know... Do they make em like they used to? Just checking if I can buy w/ confidence, or if I should exercise a little QC of my own..

I read a thread on Vintage 30s, and guys were saying to look out for this, watch out for made in China, etc.. (I'm going V 30 for a different 2-12 cab.)

C/G · 14th March 2006, 04:07 PM

www.webervst.com

They have tons of speakers and make something similar to old Jensen's. I am using the Thames (Fane) and Californias (JBL) in a Fender Quad Reverb and they rock the house.

orange · 14th March 2006, 04:08 PM

I don't really have any evidence that the modern Jensen speakers are the same as the originals but my suspicion is that they will be 'different'

what has happened to the original speaker ?

si

drmmrboy · 14th March 2006, 04:57 PM

I still have the old speaker. It's just very old, and tired. I could re-cone it, I guess.

Hey Colin.
I'm thinking of trying a Weber in my Vibro Champ.
Maybe I'll try something else in the Ampeg.
It just sounds so good w/ the Jensen. Hmmm..

orange · 14th March 2006, 05:07 PM

why not try a recone anyway - it should be pretty cheap and at least it keeps it original (retaining it's value ?).

I collect old amps - or at least I buy them and it's turned into a collection ! - and I always look for the most original I can.

Where in the US are you ? can someone suggest a decent recone company ?

si

drmmrboy · 14th March 2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

why not try a recone anyway - it should be pretty cheap and at least it keeps it original (retaining it's value ?).

I collect old amps - or at least I buy them and it's turned into a collection ! - and I always look for the most original I can.

Where in the US are you ? can someone suggest a decent recone company ?

si

I'm that way with drums and guitars too. I may swap pickups, but I'm not looking to drill holes or rout out any wood. Being able to bring it back to original is big for me. So, maybe a re-cone. I didn't know if that was the *right* thing to do w/ an original.

drmmrboy · 14th March 2006, 08:46 PM

My Ampeg is at my techs place right now. He told me Jensen makes 2 replacements from their vintage series. P12Q - $70-$80... P12N - almost $200..!!

It's some kind of re-issue or something. It has the bell cover, etc..

Re-cone, here I come...

orange · 14th March 2006, 08:53 PM

let us know how you get on.

si

Gregg Sartiano · 14th March 2006, 09:26 PM

http://www.jensenvintage.com/neo12-100.html

If robots in space are using this speaker, then, dammit, it's the one for me!

I should make this robot my avatar. Nahhh, then I'd have to lose the dancing Strong Bad (www.homestarrunner.com). Whaddaya think, GilWave -- should I retire Strong Bad?

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13th March 2006, 11:14 PM	#1
drmmrboy Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 1,608	Combo amp/speaker replacement I need to replace the 12" Jensen in my 1967 Ampeg Gemini I. Does Jensen make a replacement for this speaker, or will I have to get something a little different? I like the way it sounded with the old one.. So, I'd like to stay right there if I could. __________________ Andrew "This game is really about being consistently "upper mediocre" on a regular basis. Brilliant on occasion and damn near never sucking" - Fletcher

14th March 2006, 04:03 PM	#3
drmmrboy Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 1,608	Hey Orange, thanks for the links. http://www.jensenvintage.com/ I found this after I first posted, I just wonder if they are still a quality speaker. You know... Do they make em like they used to? Just checking if I can buy w/ confidence, or if I should exercise a little QC of my own.. I read a thread on Vintage 30s, and guys were saying to look out for this, watch out for made in China, etc.. (I'm going V 30 for a different 2-12 cab.) __________________ Andrew "This game is really about being consistently "upper mediocre" on a regular basis. Brilliant on occasion and damn near never sucking" - Fletcher

14th March 2006, 04:57 PM	#6
drmmrboy Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 1,608	I still have the old speaker. It's just very old, and tired. I could re-cone it, I guess. Hey Colin. I'm thinking of trying a Weber in my Vibro Champ. Maybe I'll try something else in the Ampeg. It just sounds so good w/ the Jensen. Hmmm.. __________________ Andrew "This game is really about being consistently "upper mediocre" on a regular basis. Brilliant on occasion and damn near never sucking" - Fletcher

14th March 2006, 08:46 PM	#9
drmmrboy Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 1,608	My Ampeg is at my techs place right now. He told me Jensen makes 2 replacements from their vintage series. P12Q - $70-$80... P12N - almost $200..!! It's some kind of re-issue or something. It has the bell cover, etc.. Re-cone, here I come... __________________ Andrew "This game is really about being consistently "upper mediocre" on a regular basis. Brilliant on occasion and damn near never sucking" - Fletcher

14th March 2006, 10:31 AM	#2
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,661	I think it's going to be very unlikely that you are going to get an 'identical' replacement. Try someone like: http://www.ampaholics.org.uk/VINTAGE%20SPEAKERS.htm (in the UK) or for a new replacement: http://www.vintagespeaker.com/search...ctmain=Speaker Can you get the original speaker reconed - it won't sound exactly the same but at least it will retain some originalilty. This is what I would do. If the speaker has disappeared then I suggest you try a modern celestion vintage (or whatever you fancy) and see if you like the sound. Another alternative would be to try ebay ??

14th March 2006, 04:07 PM	#4
C/G Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,796	www.webervst.com They have tons of speakers and make something similar to old Jensen's. I am using the Thames (Fane) and Californias (JBL) in a Fender Quad Reverb and they rock the house.

14th March 2006, 04:08 PM	#5
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,661	I don't really have any evidence that the modern Jensen speakers are the same as the originals but my suspicion is that they will be 'different' what has happened to the original speaker ? si

14th March 2006, 05:07 PM	#7
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,661	why not try a recone anyway - it should be pretty cheap and at least it keeps it original (retaining it's value ?). I collect old amps - or at least I buy them and it's turned into a collection ! - and I always look for the most original I can. Where in the US are you ? can someone suggest a decent recone company ? si

14th March 2006, 08:53 PM	#10
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,661	let us know how you get on. si

14th March 2006, 09:26 PM	#11
Gregg Sartiano Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 1,782	http://www.jensenvintage.com/neo12-100.html If robots in space are using this speaker, then, dammit, it's the one for me! I should make this robot my avatar. Nahhh, then I'd have to lose the dancing Strong Bad (www.homestarrunner.com). Whaddaya think, GilWave -- should I retire Strong Bad? __________________ "We need to legitimize peer-to-peer sharing as a business model, because it's already a business. If [the P2P companies] are going to make money on us, we should have a chance to make money along with them." -- Perry Farrell on the failure of national intellectual property policy to keep up with the rapid evolution of online media "Every Internet transmission of a musical work constitutes a public performance of that work. " http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/webfaq.html

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