HELP, ROSETTA TO ADAT CHAIN IS GIVING RANDOM "CLICKS"

Yetti · 13th March 2006

I am having a problem with this new chain I am trying:
MIC PRE > APOGEE ROSETTA>ADAT
I am getting random "clicks" about every 10 seconds, and when I select ADAT channels 2-4-6-8 using the adat lightpipe, the meters show that these clicks are NOT happening at the same time on those selected tracks...kind of at random.
I made sure that both the Apogee Rosetta and theADAT were both at 48 bit, and I have the same results weather I choose 16, 20, or 24 bit on the Apogee Rosetta.
Is this possibly a clocking issue?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

ImJohn · 13th March 2006

hi,

Please post exactly how everything is connected.

Is the ADAT set to slave to external sync? What kind? Is the Apogee set to internal and the ADAT to slave, or??? Is there a word clock connection between the two devices?

Best of luck!

centurymantra · 13th March 2006

I had the exact same problem when I first got into a chain similar to yours using an outboard converter. After some research and a few comments, I concluded that it definitely wasn't a clocking issue and may have been electrical in nature. I had the converter and digital recorder/mixer plugged into the same outlet. Seperating them on different lines ended the problem. Give it a try. This surprised me a bit as I would generally follow the rule of plugging the digital on one line and the analog on another. I was even using a PS Audio Ultimate Outlet for the two pieces at the time which should have prevented such problems, depending on what the source of the issue was of course.

beechstudio · 13th March 2006

Make sure the Adat is set to 'digital' clock.

True North · 13th March 2006

What Rick said.

Clicking is generally connected with clocking issues.

What DAW are you using?

deuc647 · 13th March 2006

check the buffer size, i had the same problem, i increased the buffer size and the issue dissappeared

FMNYC · 13th March 2006

here's my somewhat obscure contribution to the topic...
i used to get clicks and pops as well as other random stuff with my rosetta AD, what cured it was to always boot up the rosetta before booting anything else, even the computer.

crazy sh_t.

FM

FM, in the event of a water landing, may be used as a flotation device.

Yetti · 13th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMNYC

here's my somewhat obscure contribution to the topic...
i used to get clicks and pops as well as other random stuff with my rosetta AD, what cured it was to always boot up the rosetta before booting anything else, even the computer.

crazy sh_t.

FM

FM, in the event of a water landing, may be used as a flotation device.

I will give that a try, Thanks!

Yetti · 13th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

What Rick said.

Clicking is generally connected with clocking issues.

What DAW are you using?

Well, it is a bit embaressing but I am still like 15 years behind the times.
I have 2 racks full of various outboard gear, a Soundcraft Ghost board, and 3 ADAT XT's.
The closest thing I have to a DAW is the Alesis Masterlink.
Getting into Protools or Motu is next on the list.
I don't seem to have any problems with clicks or pops going digital between the Rosetta>L2 >Masterlink in digital...

Ghost Logic · 13th March 2006

If none of the above suggestions work, consider replacing your ADAT cables--sometimes the clicks/pops are caused by a faulty optical cable.

Yetti · 13th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Logic

If none of the above suggestions work, consider replacing your ADAT cables--sometimes the clicks/pops are caused by a faulty optical cable.

Thanks, I will try that too...
Hey, thanks too all of you for offering suggestions...IMjohn, Century Mantra, Beech Studio, True North, Deuc 647, FMNYC, and everyone else who takes the time to help, THANKS!!!
I will consider all of these tips, and try to get this figured out tonight.
Thanks Brothas!!!!!!!!

Jalabodu · 14th March 2006

I've had a similar problem. We should ask Max at Apogee what he thinks about it.

I'm running Big Ben, Rosetta 800, into 002.

Yetti · 14th March 2006

Alright,
I had the the fricken clock select on the master adat set incorrectly as int.
I was only looking at matching the sample rates and having it set to digital, but I forgot to take it out of the int. mode
I'm glad that the problem is solved, but feelin like dumbass for overlooking that.
Thanks again to everyone for the help, this is a great site!!!!

ImJohn · 14th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yetti

Alright,
I had the the fricken clock select on the master adat set incorrectly as int.
I was only looking at matching the sample rates and having it set to digital, but I forgot to take it out of the int. mode
I'm glad that the problem is solved, but feelin like dumbass for overlooking that.
Thanks again to everyone for the help, this is a great site!!!!

Glad you got it working! Most of us have been there before, that's how we knew!

Now, go out into the world grasshopper and help ten other people with clocking problems and your debt shall be repaid!

13th March 2006	#1
Yetti Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago west suburbs, IL Posts: 1,854 Thread Starter	HELP, ROSETTA TO ADAT CHAIN IS GIVING RANDOM "CLICKS" I am having a problem with this new chain I am trying: MIC PRE > APOGEE ROSETTA>ADAT I am getting random "clicks" about every 10 seconds, and when I select ADAT channels 2-4-6-8 using the adat lightpipe, the meters show that these clicks are NOT happening at the same time on those selected tracks...kind of at random. I made sure that both the Apogee Rosetta and theADAT were both at 48 bit, and I have the same results weather I choose 16, 20, or 24 bit on the Apogee Rosetta. Is this possibly a clocking issue? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! __________________ Yetti-

13th March 2006	#2
ImJohn Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Location: WA USA Posts: 1,442	hi, Please post exactly how everything is connected. Is the ADAT set to slave to external sync? What kind? Is the Apogee set to internal and the ADAT to slave, or??? Is there a word clock connection between the two devices? Best of luck! __________________ John L Rice http://www.youtube.com/JohnLRice

13th March 2006	#5
True North Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 3,213	What Rick said. Clicking is generally connected with clocking issues. What DAW are you using? __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

13th March 2006	#7
FMNYC Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 633	here's my somewhat obscure contribution to the topic... i used to get clicks and pops as well as other random stuff with my rosetta AD, what cured it was to always boot up the rosetta before booting anything else, even the computer. crazy sh_t. FM FM, in the event of a water landing, may be used as a flotation device. __________________ ________________________ http://thenoradsprings.net

14th March 2006	#12
Jalabodu Gear addict Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 372	I've had a similar problem. We should ask Max at Apogee what he thinks about it. I'm running Big Ben, Rosetta 800, into 002. __________________ You know you're a Gearslut when: When your wife is yelling at you for the new gear you just bought and all you can think about is what mic and pre would be the best for her anoying tone. Markk Pronounced "Hal a ba DU"

13th March 2006	#3
centurymantra Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 665	I had the exact same problem when I first got into a chain similar to yours using an outboard converter. After some research and a few comments, I concluded that it definitely wasn't a clocking issue and may have been electrical in nature. I had the converter and digital recorder/mixer plugged into the same outlet. Seperating them on different lines ended the problem. Give it a try. This surprised me a bit as I would generally follow the rule of plugging the digital on one line and the analog on another. I was even using a PS Audio Ultimate Outlet for the two pieces at the time which should have prevented such problems, depending on what the source of the issue was of course.

13th March 2006	#4
beechstudio Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,114	Make sure the Adat is set to 'digital' clock.

13th March 2006	#6
deuc647 Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,017	check the buffer size, i had the same problem, i increased the buffer size and the issue dissappeared

13th March 2006	#10
Ghost Logic Gear addict Joined: Nov 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 398	If none of the above suggestions work, consider replacing your ADAT cables--sometimes the clicks/pops are caused by a faulty optical cable.

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