Cheapest High End Brand

MACHINE · 6th March 2006

Whats the Cheapest High End Brand in general ? Lets say you wanted to get a good professional sound but wanted to spend the least amount but still stay in the 4 figoure range what would company would you look into the most ?

mixerguy · 7th March 2006

BRAND OF WHAT?

Kiwiburger · 7th March 2006

Toyota

mixerguy · 7th March 2006

hooker?

natpub · 7th March 2006

I think Pennzoil is pretty good, but Quaker State is also a serious consideration. thumbsup

The resulting engine sound is very smooth, yet has a nice open top.

mixerguy · 7th March 2006

HA HA HA!!

thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

MACHINE · 7th March 2006

So wrong..... YOU GUYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN !!!!!

Rick Sutton · 7th March 2006

Cheapest high end. Isn't that an oxymoron? Giant shrimp. Army intelligence. Cheapest high end.

True North · 7th March 2006

Ok, I think I know what you mean; High End Performance for the cheapest possible price

Mic Pre's and EQ's - Speck is pretty good cross section of value and high end performance. Portico is pretty great value as well. I have never used the Old School Audio stuff but it have heard some positive reviews on this site.

A/D/A Conversion - Lynx

Compressor - that is a tough one - all the good stuff is pretty much in the same range. I will let someone else take a crack at that. Maybe an RNC for certain applications might fit the bill

Mics - Charter Oak

Good luck in your search

Yetti · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACHINE

Whats the Cheapest High End Brand in general ? Lets say you wanted to get a good professional sound but wanted to spend the least amount but still stay in the 4 figoure range what would company would you look into the most ?

Sounds like a Guitar Center dude is trying to sell you on a complete Behringer studio...and has everything in stock!
Just kiddin Brotha!!
Seriously though, it really depends on each piece of gear you are looking for....the brand names will change for every different catagory. Are you looking for mics? mixing board? effect proccesors? digital recorders?
What are you considering?
I think that some dudes here would like to help you out, if you can be a little more specific. There really is no "Cheapest High End Brand in general".
Take care-

7th March 2006

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Originally Posted by True North

I have never used the Old School Audio stuff but it have heard some positive reviews on this site.

Well as long as the person who was making the osa stuff that week knew what they were doing you'll be happy with the sound.

rids · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yetti

Sounds like a Guitar Center dude is trying to sell you on a complete Behringer studio...and has everything in stock!

mixerguy · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACHINE

So wrong..... YOU GUYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN !!!!!

No, you big dumb ass....

I have no clue as to what you are asking about, in such a vague way!

You mention "4 figure price range" and that means 1000 to 9999 - a factor of ten

and you mentioned a price - $1,000 is a lot for a guitar cable, but not much for a hardware compressor.

Be more specific, and get yer head out of yer butt!

mixerguy · 7th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Rick Sutton

Cheapest high end. Isn't that an oxymoron? Giant shrimp. Army intelligence. Cheapest high end.

SO TRUE!!!

audiothings · 7th March 2006

strange question but i'll bite as i am always trying to find easiest access to the "high end"

dav electronics?
sytek/neotek?
daking?
sebatron?
vintech?
(NOS) amek purepath?
audient?
jlm audio?

roll music systems?

audio technica??
shure??
akg??
peluso??
pearlman??

stellavox portable analog recorders?

small fender amps?
carvin guitars and basses?

.02,
self.

ImJohn · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACHINE

So wrong..... YOU GUYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN !!!!!

While I sort of know what you mean, as soon as I try to define it I can't. It's like asking :

Who is the least attractive beautiful girl?

What is the least expensive gormet meal?

What's the lowest performance high performance race car?

It's like trying to pin a badge on the most middle of the road average item that is just on the high end of the dividing line.

joeq · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACHINE

Whats the Cheapest High End Brand in general ? Lets say you wanted to get a good professional sound but wanted to spend the least amount but still stay in the 4 figoure range what would company would you look into the most ?

Machine, I think I recall that you seemed disappointed in another thread when you found out that mixers wanted to receive beats with the tracks separated instead of as a stereo loop. This thread is going to leave you disappointed yet again.

Surely if you think about it, you already must know the answer. That there isn't going to be one magical Brand Name someone can post for you that will save you the "trouble" of planning and equipping your studio. You strike me as looking for a shortcut around what I would consider the Best Part of what this site is all about.

Not only do most of the people here enjoy the Quest, I would go so far as to say we wallow in it. The "Slut" part of Gearslut. If you are not truly infected you may actually still have a chance to get away.

If you just want to spend money at one end and get a finished song out the other, building your own studio IS a huge chore. Seriously, just take your money to one of the fine hardworking studios in your area and pay them to record you.

Cojo · 7th March 2006

ALESIS!

/Cojo

dirren · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImJohn

Who is the least attractive beautiful girl?

easy - the one most of us end up dating...

/D

manning1 · 7th March 2006

joeq.....
loved your comment about "wallowing".
best insightfull comment ive heard in awhile.

machine ...."hi end" and what is "hi end" can be interpreted many different ways.
for example every piece of gear from a low end cassette deck with a 10 dollar
radio shak mic to a u87 running through a harrison console to a studer multitrack
has a sound. i feel pretty confident haveing once seen some pretty decent audio engineers at work (who helped me on more than one occasion and knew the craft inside out) .....that if technology had not progressed and all studios had to work with were cassette deck technology and mics we consider today as downright awfull these talented folks would still find a way to produce great records.
because they just have the knack of it. god i'm getting philosophical , but as an audio engineer said to me once in a big studio "audio is like love"...."many ways to do it". i see a lot of folks grasping today trying to get the "old sounds" from records years ago....that they love, and i would suggest sometimes (not always)
instead of reaching for the latest and greatest hi tech gear one might use some old tech. sometimes out of sheer obstinence i'll spend a day mucking with
an old mic plugged into a cassette deck and recording to the daw.
sometimes i seem to get the older sounds by mucking with this approach
(plus eq tailoring in the daw) than other approaches. or for laughs i might use a
element of a set of headphones as a mic to record a guitar amp for fun.
sometimes it works sometimes not. just some ideas. cos ive used some pretty hi end gear in the past which was wonderfull, but just not in all situations.
just an idea.

HudHudson · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Sutton

Cheapest high end. Isn't that an oxymoron? Giant shrimp. Army intelligence. Cheapest high end.

Spot on, Rick!

smarsland · 7th March 2006

I think the better question is "which gear has the best VALUE?"

like i think, based on what people have said, the AT 4047, 4050, 4060 are really good values for their place in the industry.

i think that the apogee mini-me is one of the best values of all, especially now that they have lowered the MSRP. IMHO, unbeatable, now.

im not going to drop $3000 on an 8-channel A/D converter... i would pay $2000 if it was A/D D/A converter and damned good at both. i would not be interested in paying $1000 for an 8-channel A/D/A converter -- thats not the right price point for the quality I want. Tell me if I'm wrong.

I'm looking for value.. not always the cheapest price.

P.S. When its time for a new console, I will be buying a Midas Venice (not the cheapest, but def the best in that price range, IMO).

my $.03
s

ddageek · 7th March 2006

cheapest hi end is what ever I have that gets the sound I need today and makes the client happy! payed for is cheaper than got to have!

Jose Mrochek · 7th March 2006

what is the highest end of the lower end ?

T9c · 7th March 2006

Doode, You gotta spend some time around here to know the answer to that and not sound stupid! Yer probly already outa here anyways, since you haven't said what "high-end" thing you are talking about.

Troll.

Yoni · 7th March 2006

It's really not that hard to understand what he's talking about.

Two of my favs - Daking pre, Lawson 47. Great on their own, great together.

hrn · 7th March 2006

...Is this flower beautiful ...

Guess Levis jeans are more high end than the no-names....

Jose Mrochek · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoni

It's really not that hard to understand what he's talking about.

.

I believe we all understand what he is saying, but his wording was wrong so we are giving him a hard time : )

TheSweetener · 7th March 2006

ADT Toolmod series. That is high end at low prices. Just bought a preamp and a compressor!

drmmrboy · 7th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACHINE

So wrong..... YOU GUYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN !!!!!

Entry level high end..??
If there is such a thing, I think your looking for the piece (of meat) in the middle.

6th March 2006	#1
MACHINE Gear addict Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 324 Thread Starter	Cheapest High End Brand Whats the Cheapest High End Brand in general ? Lets say you wanted to get a good professional sound but wanted to spend the least amount but still stay in the 4 figoure range what would company would you look into the most ?

7th March 2006	#5
natpub More cowbell! Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,171 2 Reviews written	I think Pennzoil is pretty good, but Quaker State is also a serious consideration. thumbsup The resulting engine sound is very smooth, yet has a nice open top. __________________ Sonic Sorcery Austin, Texas

7th March 2006	#9
True North Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 3,213	Ok, I think I know what you mean; High End Performance for the cheapest possible price Mic Pre's and EQ's - Speck is pretty good cross section of value and high end performance. Portico is pretty great value as well. I have never used the Old School Audio stuff but it have heard some positive reviews on this site. A/D/A Conversion - Lynx Compressor - that is a tough one - all the good stuff is pretty much in the same range. I will let someone else take a crack at that. Maybe an RNC for certain applications might fit the bill Mics - Charter Oak Good luck in your search __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

7th March 2006	#20
manning1 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: canada Posts: 3,998	joeq..... loved your comment about "wallowing". best insightfull comment ive heard in awhile. machine ...."hi end" and what is "hi end" can be interpreted many different ways. for example every piece of gear from a low end cassette deck with a 10 dollar radio shak mic to a u87 running through a harrison console to a studer multitrack has a sound. i feel pretty confident haveing once seen some pretty decent audio engineers at work (who helped me on more than one occasion and knew the craft inside out) .....that if technology had not progressed and all studios had to work with were cassette deck technology and mics we consider today as downright awfull these talented folks would still find a way to produce great records. because they just have the knack of it. god i'm getting philosophical , but as an audio engineer said to me once in a big studio "audio is like love"...."many ways to do it". i see a lot of folks grasping today trying to get the "old sounds" from records years ago....that they love, and i would suggest sometimes (not always) instead of reaching for the latest and greatest hi tech gear one might use some old tech. sometimes out of sheer obstinence i'll spend a day mucking with an old mic plugged into a cassette deck and recording to the daw. sometimes i seem to get the older sounds by mucking with this approach (plus eq tailoring in the daw) than other approaches. or for laughs i might use a element of a set of headphones as a mic to record a guitar amp for fun. sometimes it works sometimes not. just some ideas. cos ive used some pretty hi end gear in the past which was wonderfull, but just not in all situations. just an idea. __________________ i'm just a dumb computer engr (ret'd)...."quantum computing is the future" running a native software studio daw...Powertracks and Reaper on amd. new cockney album released http://therockingbloodbrothers.blogspot.com/ my other little songs www.motagator.com/bmanning

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7th March 2006	#2
mixerguy Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,002	BRAND OF WHAT?

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Kiwiburger Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,075	Toyota

7th March 2006	#8
Rick Sutton Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,058	Cheapest high end. Isn't that an oxymoron? Giant shrimp. Army intelligence. Cheapest high end.

7th March 2006	#18
Cojo Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden! Posts: 1,471	ALESIS! /Cojo

7th March 2006	#22
smarsland Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2005 Location: SW CT Posts: 264	I think the better question is "which gear has the best VALUE?" like i think, based on what people have said, the AT 4047, 4050, 4060 are really good values for their place in the industry. i think that the apogee mini-me is one of the best values of all, especially now that they have lowered the MSRP. IMHO, unbeatable, now. im not going to drop $3000 on an 8-channel A/D converter... i would pay $2000 if it was A/D D/A converter and damned good at both. i would not be interested in paying $1000 for an 8-channel A/D/A converter -- thats not the right price point for the quality I want. Tell me if I'm wrong. I'm looking for value.. not always the cheapest price. P.S. When its time for a new console, I will be buying a Midas Venice (not the cheapest, but def the best in that price range, IMO). my $.03 s

7th March 2006	#23
ddageek Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,673	cheapest hi end is what ever I have that gets the sound I need today and makes the client happy! payed for is cheaper than got to have!

7th March 2006	#24
Jose Mrochek Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,830	what is the highest end of the lower end ?

7th March 2006	#25
T9c Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 285	Doode, You gotta spend some time around here to know the answer to that and not sound stupid! Yer probly already outa here anyways, since you haven't said what "high-end" thing you are talking about. Troll.

7th March 2006	#26
Yoni Gear nut Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126	It's really not that hard to understand what he's talking about. Two of my favs - Daking pre, Lawson 47. Great on their own, great together.

7th March 2006	#27
hrn Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Gävle, Sweden Posts: 586	...Is this flower beautiful ... Guess Levis jeans are more high end than the no-names....

7th March 2006	#29
TheSweetener Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 1,215	ADT Toolmod series. That is high end at low prices. Just bought a preamp and a compressor!

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