Mixing Drums Through a Console

[ron florentine]

I am making a transition from mixing totally out of the box to a hybrid ITB but still through my Neotek console and using outboard hardware.The reasoning behind going partially ITB is mostly for automation and recall of mixes for clients......................My question is for the guys out there who own real analog consoles.................Do most of you internally mix your drums ITB and just stereo stem them out to a couple of channels on your console or do you take each individual track out seperately and summ them all on your console..............A typical drum setup for me would be 2kick,2snare 3 tom,2 OH,1 hihat and 2 room I dont have a huge console so real estate is a concern a bit.....but it seems when I stem everything to a stereo pair I tend to lose the depth a bit............is there a good compromise? Thanks for any insights.


Ron Florentine
Soundswest Studio

[ron florentine]

Nobody out there mixing through a nice analog console ?????


Ron Florentine
Soundswest Studio

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by ron florentine

Nobody out there mixing through a nice analog console ?????


Ron Florentine
Soundswest Studio

Yes.

Mix out drums on seperare channels or do below:


Kicks submixed internally,snares submixed internally and hihat submixed with overheads.

Toms can go on stereo channels.

Rooms submixed to one channel.

Total- 7 outs.

[ron florentine]

Thanks Thrill much appreciated!


Ron Florentine
Soundswest Studio

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by ron florentine

Thanks Thrill much appreciated!


Ron Florentine
Soundswest Studio

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[u b k]

the more things that get their own channel, the better, imo.


gregoire
del ubik

[Slipperman]

I don't sum anything ITB if I can avoid it.

I use a 48 channel DA output plot to my desks.

If I gotta start summing ITB due to track allocation, I try to make it the peripheral stuff.

Good luck with it.

SM.

[dokushoka]

I don't submix anything in the box. The more faders I have up, the more empowered I feel.

[w2w]

No submixing,every track gets a fader,grouping gets done on the console....If you dont have enough channels...you need a bigger console!!!

[absrec]

The guy in the studio next door has been loving this method. Kicks on one channel, snares on one channel, toms on two, rooms and ohs on two. And he uses blanket console eq settings while tweaking some eqs in the computer. Bass comes up on a channel, gtrs on a stereo pair, vox on a stereo pair, etc. His mixes sound wonderful. I have not gotten into trying this on my own setup, since I don't yet have a console that brings much of a sound to the table. I've just been using stereo pairs for everything.

Aaron