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Old 30th March 2011   #1
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Simple Pro Tools Question.

Hi,

Just recording a new track and have already laid down a guide track guitar and vocal, recorded at 101 bpm along to a click track.

However, our drummer has insisted that it is to slow and wants it around 104-106.

He has recorded his drums at 101, just to double check and it is defiantly a bit slow. Unfortunately, we didn't have time to adjust or re-record guide track.

How can i increase the bpm in pro tools and have the audio of the drums be played faster? I've told him if its just a few bpm it shouldn't sound artificial?

Im assuming it has something to do with elastic audio or time, but have zero ideas where to start!

Thanks for any help. Really would be appreciated.
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Group ALL your drum tracks. Put Elastic Audio, in Rmythmic, on one of the tracks, and it will do it to all tracks in the group. Then just change the red BPM triangle at the top of ur edit window. Done!

Although, it might not sounds all that great. I'd never ever consider slowing drums for anything but a HipHop remix. You're gonna lose some quality for sure.
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Cheers for that pal. Will have a quick look in a second.

I guess its understandable about the quality loss though. Such a shame but under the circumstances there isn't really a whole lot I can do!
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since you're speeding it up, the best way to keep the sonics a bit more intact would be slicing it on the transients using beat detective, then quantizing it all to the new tempo - since you're shortening the gaps between the hits, there's no gaps to fill, and the crossfades should be pretty trnsparent. It will take a bit of time though , you usually have to do a few bars at a time, but it ought to end up sounding better than elastic audio, as you're not resampling all the audio

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Nope, no joy.

Ive set all tracks to Rhythmic, but it isnt changing the audio, only the metronome. The conductor is enabled, but have tried with and without.

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Edit: Just read your post matt. Not really ever used Beat Detective, but i know its now standard with PT9. If i cant get decent results using EA, then i'll see what this has to offer!.
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You need to set the track to ticks instead of samples - RTM to see how to do this.

If I understand right, it's just the guide, not the recorded drums, that need speeding up right? In which case, use polyphonic mode on the guitar.

I don't like using EA on drums, it always seems to destroy transients and phase, but speeding up is better than slowing things down.
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elastic audio. make sure you are in ticks

use polyphonic to start. change tempo then switch EA to x-form when you are at correct new tempo. no artifacts at all. but it is an offline process so go get something to eat.
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Thanks for the help guys.

Yeah set to ticks and all working fine. Only gone from 101 to 104, and thankfully it sounds great. No signs of any artefacts or weirdness even on headphones.

Will render down to X-Form and hopefully quality shall remain as good as possible.

Thanks once again. Saved me a whole heap of extra work re-recording.
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groovey & cool - although for such a small amount I'd also look at just speeding the tracks up with a none time compression pitch shift.... the old way!!
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