The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society

Sirocco · 11th February 2006, 11:20 PM

am i the only one who thinks this is one of the wierdest sounding rock records ever?

nevertheless one of my favorite records ever...god, i loved this period in the kinks career

Winey · 11th February 2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirocco

am i the only one who thinks this is one of the wierdest sounding rock records ever?

nevertheless one of my favorite records ever...god, i loved this period in the kinks career

Yeah, that album rules.

norton · 11th February 2006, 11:58 PM

awesome album!!!

totally funky sounding. i'd even say that it sounds kinda crappy... BUT those songs are soo good that it HAS to be that way. super squashy, over compressed, too hot and odd all around.

Have you heard the 4? disc re-issue??

How about Muswell Hillbilly's? that's one of my all time favorite sounding records.

Sirocco · 12th February 2006, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norton

awesome album!!!

totally funky sounding. i'd even say that it sounds kinda crappy... BUT those songs are soo good that it HAS to be that way. super squashy, over compressed, too hot and odd all around.

Have you heard the 4? disc re-issue??

How about Muswell Hillbilly's? that's one of my all time favorite sounding records.

only heard the cd (hey, im kinda young here, lol)

and no to Muswell Hillbilly's also

id like to bring this style back in my sound a tad, im getting extremely sick of the sound of todays records...and so is the rest of this board from what ive read

Farmerbrown2200 · 12th February 2006, 12:47 AM

"Other People's Lives" is Ray Davies new album not yet released but I can't wait and he's touring too!! Kinks are the most underrated band from of their time.

Lola and the Ape man come face to face with the village green society

Trust your gut! This is very good stuff and it will last, oh yeah... and it's because of the songwriting as much as the the sound (more than). I listen to versions of these songs from the 60s 70s 80s and 90s and they always sound great! Sure the original is always the best, but don't confound the two (recording and song writing).

FB

r0ck1r0ck2 · 12th February 2006, 01:36 AM

i got into this album about 4 years ago...
the 1st summer it didn't leave the CD player for 2 months...
i was more than happy to just leave the bugger in...

one of my top 20 albums of all time

r0ck1r0ck2 · 12th February 2006, 01:37 AM

p.s. its better than sgt. pepper anyday

max cooper · 12th February 2006, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by r0ck1r0ck2

p.s. its better than sgt. pepper anyday

I know what you mean!

max cooper · 12th February 2006, 05:23 AM

Seriously, though, the RCA Kinks stuff is great. I also dig Preservation I and II and (of course) Muswell Hillbillies. Kinks get a LOT of play at my house.

I think "Waterloo Sunset" is one of the greatest songs ever.

balaperdida · 12th February 2006, 05:29 AM

You know you've really come to love them when you like their later stuff as much as their early work -- they have a sound that transcends production. While nothing beats VGPS, Arthur, and Muswell Hillbillies, I think that, while spotty, Soap Opera is a beautiful, under-rated album with a painfully under-developed concept.

ripper · 12th February 2006, 06:15 AM

my 3 yr old loves this album and wants to repy with the following icons!

r0ck1r0ck2 · 12th February 2006, 08:54 AM

yaaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!
good for your 3yr old...
good parenting that is...

and on the later stuff i just want to say that the earlier stuff is hard as well
"So Mystifying" needs comment..
"I Kneed You" (sp?)

but KINDA KINKS.....maybe thats the best
no probably not...
but its freakin' better than Beatles 2nd album
jeezus crimeny yes it is

name a better british invasion band
go ahead and try

orange · 12th February 2006, 11:02 AM

VGPS has had a bit of a revival in the UK in the last few years - I think it might have won a 'Q' award for best album of all time (or something). Tracks from it are being used on TV ads in the UK too.

I think it's a fantastic album - It really reflects a quirky english, middle class sensibility in such a gentle way. I love it.

si

neve1073 · 12th February 2006, 11:16 AM

my favorite kinks record.

Ricky · 12th February 2006, 11:21 AM

I just love the Kinks sooooo much. Ray is just a legend. His songs are so quirkey and timeless. He always looked so cool as a dedicated follower of fashion

Oh yes he is

mr scratchy esq · 12th February 2006, 11:07 PM

Village Green is in my top 5 fave albums and it definitely is a quirky, odd, sloppy, eccentric production. The original cd version sounds better to me than the Castle reissue. I really need to get this on vinyl. I just picked up the Kinks Kronikles on lp and was surprised how much better it sounds than the cds. The production choices and recording quality made much more sense to me after hearing it on vinyl.

Bill

r0ck1r0ck2 · 12th February 2006, 11:31 PM

i've got the cd with the mono lp followed by the stereo version...
love it...

i wish they did that with more transition records...
the beatles stuff for example...

JP11 · 12th February 2006, 11:51 PM

Picture Book is in some ad, and when it comes on, it really catches your ear...who's this young fresh upstart alterna band? Oh, it's The Kinks from 40 years ago

.

r0ck1r0ck2 · 13th February 2006, 12:05 AM

that killed me...as i would play it almost every dj gig for a while
no longer....its too gross to play a song featured in some hp ad..
p.u.

zimv20 · 13th February 2006, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripper

my 3 yr old loves this album

i've given this album as a gift to my friends' kids. kids love this album. as do i.

James Guitar · 31st March 2006, 07:09 AM

don't know how i missed this thread, but anyway...
yeah this album is one of the greats. i don't really think of it as having *crappy* sound, as mentioned earlier in the thread. i think it's kind of standard for the time (the beatles of course being the exception to the rule).
sound-wise, it's on par with *tommy* (which i feel is kind of a ripoff of VGPS anyway) but far more interesting. and any album with that much great mellotron work gets the

in my books.
anyone else notice how ray's singing on "picture book" kind of sounds like jeff tweedy?
-J

doorknocker · 31st March 2006, 10:06 AM

The 3-CD version of 'VGPS' is really good, the mono mix rules! Some great outtakes and B-sides too. I was hesitant at first because too many classic album get frigged up with bloated reissues but this one is actually great and enhances the original album without overshadowing it with sonic waste.

Having said that my absolute fave Kinks album is 'Face to Face', done when 'conceptual sophistication' started creeping in but their basic 'punk' attitude was still there.

I could never get into 'Muswell Hillbillies', as much as I've tried. I just don't think it's on the same level as 'Face to Face', 'Something Else' and 'VGPS' from a songwriting perspective.

I recently bought 'Misfits' on SACD/CD and it's a really great, maybe lesser known album.

manning1 · 31st March 2006, 11:33 AM

yep to waterloo sunset plus so many others.
once i was into learning every kinks song and all the chords.
have oneof those best of cd's as well.
anyone got varispeed production info on their songs ??
reason i ask is as one moves from song to song i find i have to retune
my guitar to each song....to play along with the hits cd...eg....lola ....lol.

max cooper · 31st March 2006, 03:51 PM

BTW, if you like VGPS, you should check out Preservation parts I and II.

They're both kinda off kilter and kinda written like musicals but they're both cool.

willythekid · 31st March 2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0ck1r0ck2

p.s. its better than sgt. pepper anyday

hmmm.... sorry, but as much as i love the kinks - no album ever beats sgt pepper. half of the songs on VGPS are masterpieces and the rest are good. on sgt pepper there are only masterpieces.

PRobb · 31st March 2006, 05:38 PM

Let me put in a good word for "Something Else". Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Lazy Old Sun, Afternoon Tea and the great Waterloo Sunset.

The Kinks are not usually mentioned when talking about the giants of the British invasion. I have no idea why that is. The belong in the same pantheon as The Beatles, Stones and Who. Ray Davies is one the great songwriters of all time.

James Guitar · 31st March 2006, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willythekid

hmmm.... sorry, but as much as i love the kinks - no album ever beats sgt pepper. half of the songs on VGPS are masterpieces and the rest are good. on sgt pepper there are only masterpieces.

yeh i agree. pepper is always at the top for me too. sound quality, song quality, everything... but some people's MMV i figure...
-J

petsematary · 31st March 2006, 06:44 PM

Kinks = Best band ever

Village Green kix but they made soooo many good albums. Something Else comes to mind, Kink Kontroversy as well...oh, no idea listing them all. They all rawk.

Whenever I need to describe the Kinks and their sound, I end up calling it a mix between punk rock, nursery rhymes and weird humor. A lot of their tunes have a childish vibe to them for sure. Like Phenomenal Cat...stuff like that. They wrote many childish sounding songs. Not childish - childish SOUNDING. Anyone with me here?

r0ck1r0ck2 · 1st April 2006, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petsematary

Kinks = Best band ever
Anyone with me here?

Yo..

i still stand by that Pepper statment...

you'll notice i said Sgt. Pepper Not The White Album...

js1 · 1st April 2006, 01:34 AM

BTW, sounds like the Ray Davies tour is worth seeing. A buddy of mine caught the Toronto show last night, and said it was tremendous. Ray played like someone who really wanted to be on stage and he still has his voice live.

Wish I was there.

js

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11th February 2006, 11:20 PM	#1
Sirocco Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,472	The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society am i the only one who thinks this is one of the wierdest sounding rock records ever? nevertheless one of my favorite records ever...god, i loved this period in the kinks career __________________ Drum Sounds Used On Billboard Hits, Countless Tracks, & By Top Producers

12th February 2006, 06:15 AM	#11
ripper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 528	my 3 yr old loves this album and wants to repy with the following icons! __________________ A compresser? Don't you already have one of those? ------------------------------------- My Wife www.easternblocstudios.com

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neve1073 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,210	my favorite kinks record. __________________ =================== "Let's be discrete"

12th February 2006, 11:07 PM	#16
mr scratchy esq Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 75	Village Green is in my top 5 fave albums and it definitely is a quirky, odd, sloppy, eccentric production. The original cd version sounds better to me than the Castle reissue. I really need to get this on vinyl. I just picked up the Kinks Kronikles on lp and was surprised how much better it sounds than the cds. The production choices and recording quality made much more sense to me after hearing it on vinyl. Bill __________________ Teen Regime Studios www.teenregimestudios.com

11th February 2006, 11:58 PM	#3
norton Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: mpls, mn Posts: 62	awesome album!!! totally funky sounding. i'd even say that it sounds kinda crappy... BUT those songs are soo good that it HAS to be that way. super squashy, over compressed, too hot and odd all around. Have you heard the 4? disc re-issue?? How about Muswell Hillbilly's? that's one of my all time favorite sounding records.

12th February 2006, 12:47 AM	#5
Farmerbrown2200 Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 176	"Other People's Lives" is Ray Davies new album not yet released but I can't wait and he's touring too!! Kinks are the most underrated band from of their time. Lola and the Ape man come face to face with the village green society Trust your gut! This is very good stuff and it will last, oh yeah... and it's because of the songwriting as much as the the sound (more than). I listen to versions of these songs from the 60s 70s 80s and 90s and they always sound great! Sure the original is always the best, but don't confound the two (recording and song writing). FB

12th February 2006, 01:36 AM	#6
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	i got into this album about 4 years ago... the 1st summer it didn't leave the CD player for 2 months... i was more than happy to just leave the bugger in... one of my top 20 albums of all time

12th February 2006, 01:37 AM	#7
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	p.s. its better than sgt. pepper anyday

12th February 2006, 05:23 AM	#9
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	Seriously, though, the RCA Kinks stuff is great. I also dig Preservation I and II and (of course) Muswell Hillbillies. Kinks get a LOT of play at my house. I think "Waterloo Sunset" is one of the greatest songs ever.

12th February 2006, 05:29 AM	#10
balaperdida Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico, DF Posts: 145	You know you've really come to love them when you like their later stuff as much as their early work -- they have a sound that transcends production. While nothing beats VGPS, Arthur, and Muswell Hillbillies, I think that, while spotty, Soap Opera is a beautiful, under-rated album with a painfully under-developed concept.

12th February 2006, 08:54 AM	#12
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	yaaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!! good for your 3yr old... good parenting that is... and on the later stuff i just want to say that the earlier stuff is hard as well "So Mystifying" needs comment.. "I Kneed You" (sp?) but KINDA KINKS.....maybe thats the best no probably not... but its freakin' better than Beatles 2nd album jeezus crimeny yes it is name a better british invasion band go ahead and try

12th February 2006, 11:02 AM	#13
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,661	VGPS has had a bit of a revival in the UK in the last few years - I think it might have won a 'Q' award for best album of all time (or something). Tracks from it are being used on TV ads in the UK too. I think it's a fantastic album - It really reflects a quirky english, middle class sensibility in such a gentle way. I love it. si

12th February 2006, 11:21 AM	#15
Ricky Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 155	I just love the Kinks sooooo much. Ray is just a legend. His songs are so quirkey and timeless. He always looked so cool as a dedicated follower of fashion Oh yes he is

12th February 2006, 11:31 PM	#17
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	i've got the cd with the mono lp followed by the stereo version... love it... i wish they did that with more transition records... the beatles stuff for example...

12th February 2006, 11:51 PM	#18
JP11 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,105	Picture Book is in some ad, and when it comes on, it really catches your ear...who's this young fresh upstart alterna band? Oh, it's The Kinks from 40 years ago .

13th February 2006, 12:05 AM	#19
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	that killed me...as i would play it almost every dj gig for a while no longer....its too gross to play a song featured in some hp ad.. p.u.

31st March 2006, 07:09 AM	#21
James Guitar Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 537	don't know how i missed this thread, but anyway... yeah this album is one of the greats. i don't really think of it as having crappy sound, as mentioned earlier in the thread. i think it's kind of standard for the time (the beatles of course being the exception to the rule). sound-wise, it's on par with tommy (which i feel is kind of a ripoff of VGPS anyway) but far more interesting. and any album with that much great mellotron work gets the in my books. anyone else notice how ray's singing on "picture book" kind of sounds like jeff tweedy? -J

31st March 2006, 10:06 AM	#22
doorknocker Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 3,393	The 3-CD version of 'VGPS' is really good, the mono mix rules! Some great outtakes and B-sides too. I was hesitant at first because too many classic album get frigged up with bloated reissues but this one is actually great and enhances the original album without overshadowing it with sonic waste. Having said that my absolute fave Kinks album is 'Face to Face', done when 'conceptual sophistication' started creeping in but their basic 'punk' attitude was still there. I could never get into 'Muswell Hillbillies', as much as I've tried. I just don't think it's on the same level as 'Face to Face', 'Something Else' and 'VGPS' from a songwriting perspective. I recently bought 'Misfits' on SACD/CD and it's a really great, maybe lesser known album. __________________ Andi www.doorknocker.ch 'My ambition is to someday have my signature line quoted as someone else's signature line. ' - DesertDawg

31st March 2006, 11:33 AM	#23
manning1 Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: canada Posts: 2,999	yep to waterloo sunset plus so many others. once i was into learning every kinks song and all the chords. have oneof those best of cd's as well. anyone got varispeed production info on their songs ?? reason i ask is as one moves from song to song i find i have to retune my guitar to each song....to play along with the hits cd...eg....lola ....lol. __________________ i'm just a dumb computer engr (ret'd)...."quantum computing is the future" running a native software studio daw...Powertracks and Reaper on amd. my little songs www.motagator.com/bmanning (saving up for pristine ADA convertors i cant afford...lol)

31st March 2006, 03:51 PM	#24
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	BTW, if you like VGPS, you should check out Preservation parts I and II. They're both kinda off kilter and kinda written like musicals but they're both cool.

31st March 2006, 05:38 PM	#26
PRobb Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6,547	Let me put in a good word for "Something Else". Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Lazy Old Sun, Afternoon Tea and the great Waterloo Sunset. The Kinks are not usually mentioned when talking about the giants of the British invasion. I have no idea why that is. The belong in the same pantheon as The Beatles, Stones and Who. Ray Davies is one the great songwriters of all time. __________________ We are the people we've been waiting for -Barak Obama The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke

31st March 2006, 06:44 PM	#28
petsematary Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: East Coast, Sweden Posts: 1,142	Kinks = Best band ever Village Green kix but they made soooo many good albums. Something Else comes to mind, Kink Kontroversy as well...oh, no idea listing them all. They all rawk. Whenever I need to describe the Kinks and their sound, I end up calling it a mix between punk rock, nursery rhymes and weird humor. A lot of their tunes have a childish vibe to them for sure. Like Phenomenal Cat...stuff like that. They wrote many childish sounding songs. Not childish - childish SOUNDING. Anyone with me here? __________________ (click to see me and my work)

1st April 2006, 01:34 AM	#30
js1 Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 217	BTW, sounds like the Ray Davies tour is worth seeing. A buddy of mine caught the Toronto show last night, and said it was tremendous. Ray played like someone who really wanted to be on stage and he still has his voice live. Wish I was there. js

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