Cubase have anything Nuendo doesn't?

[celebritymusic]

Hi

I know Nuendo has a heap of features that Cubase doesn't, but I was wondering if Cubase has features that Nuendo doesn't have - anything I would miss if I got Nuendo?

Thanks!

Shaun

[insomnio]

Sign me in that question too. I'm thinking in make the jump from Sonar.

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[dolo]

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

I know Nuendo has a heap of features that Cubase doesn't, but I was wondering if Cubase has features that Nuendo doesn't have

a $2k price tag!

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

anything I would miss if I got Nuendo?

$1.5k


in all seriousness, what will you be using it for? if you are just usingit for music production then stick to cubase.

[celebritymusic]

Hi

Just music production, but I have found an OEM suplier that sells it for $90. It seems legit. I'm investigating.

Shaun

[Kiwiburger]

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

Just music production, but I have found an OEM suplier that sells it for $90. It seems legit. I'm investigating.

Shaun

While your'e at it, I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying real cheap.

[dolo]

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

Just music production, but I have found an OEM suplier that sells it for $90. It seems legit. I'm investigating.

Shaun

for "Nintey" Dollors i can not be legit! don't buy it.


for $1000.00 someone sold at a major pro audio store me a copy of nuendo second hand that was ligitimately liscensed to them. this encluded all manuals and dongles the box was sealed and and never used. it turned out to be a nfr copy.

every thing worked fine for a year and an half but when i went to upgrade to nuendo 3 steinberg would not let me update it and flagged the account. i had to go out and re-buy this thing for $2,000.

steinberg will not support you. and forget about trying to get advice from anybody on the nuendo forum with an illegitimate copy.

you've been warned! tutt

[HeatWAVS]

Originally Posted by Kiwiburger

While your'e at it, I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying real cheap.

good looks on that last bridge I bought from you... it arrived in tip top shape... lol

but seriously if someone is selling it for $90 you need to ask him to see a picture of the dongle, and disk, and manual, and get his fingerprints, social security #, date of birth etc... just so it will be easier for the police when they come looking for him...

[adamcal]

"Cubase have anything Nuendo doesn't"

Yes a stigma of home bedroom midi studio users cranking out copy dancy choons with rebirth dums general midi piano sounds.



























But in reality, its pretty good now.

[celebritymusic]

Hi

The OEM software is from this company:

http://dcc.communizding.com

They sell a stack of other stuff as well. Anyone heard of them?

There are no manuals etc, and my initial reaction was this is a scam, but I am checking into it just in case.

I'll keep you posted.

Shaun

ps - I am not into illegal software, so I'd appreciate no more innuendos thanks. I am just trying to get the best deal on a legit copy. I hate it when people tutt without thinking first.

[Pepe Ortega]

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

The OEM software is from this company:

http://dcc.communizding.com

They sell a stack of other stuff as well. Anyone heard of them?

There are no manuals etc, and my initial reaction was this is a scam, but I am checking into it just in case.
.

Illegal software of course
You´ll need a real dongle to run the program.
If you plan to enter steinberg forums for help and questions you´ll need the serial number on dongle, if you don´t have one forget it.

[KurtR]

It sounds like all you get is a link to download the software. Nuendo comes on a dvd right?

Hmmm.. I guess you can but the dongles?
http://cgi.ebay.com/STEINBERG-Key-Do...QQcmdZViewItem

[matt thomas]

http://www.planetmicro.com/Cubase_Nu...son_Chart1.pdf


oh, and that deal has scam written all over it. Don't do it.

narco

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

I know Nuendo has a heap of features that Cubase doesn't, but I was wondering if Cubase has features that Nuendo doesn't have - anything I would miss if I got Nuendo?

Thanks!

Shaun

[drosophila]

Complete scam. For one, "OEM software" refers to software that cannot be purchased standalone by the end-user - typically, there's at least the stipulation that you must purchase it with some kind of computer hardware, either from a shop like Newegg.com or a system integrator like Dell.

Second, OEM software is cheaper, yes... but not to the extent that a $1000+ product is suddenly available for less than $200. I don't even get a discount that good as a student.

Third, products like Cubase require a USB dongle. When you buy software, you are effectively purchasing a license to use that software - per most end-user agreements, you never really *own* that software, you're just licensed to use it indefinitely. In a situation like Cubase, absence of the key means you haven't legitimately purchased anything other than a pirated copy of the software, since there's no dongle. No dongle = no license.

Only a fool would consider a site like that legit.

[matt thomas]

whoops! just corrected the link in my post above

narco

[insomnio]

I would like to go back to the thread's question. What about the sound (engine)? Are they both about the same?


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[Keyplayer]

This should help you out.
http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9241

[John The Cut]

Originally Posted by insomnio

I would like to go back to the thread's question. What about the sound (engine)? Are they both about the same?


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Yes.

Cubase and Nuendo are the same, except Nuendo has more 'Post production' features, a more comprehensive file support, other little goodies and a nicer interface.

[crypticglobe]

Originally Posted by mogWai

Yes.

Cubase and Nuendo are the same, except Nuendo has more 'Post production' features, a more comprehensive file support, other little goodies and a nicer interface.

Yup... this is correct.

Those "deals" on Cubase/Nuendo are on stolen software. Buy from a reputable dealer... ok?

[tnjazz]

Actually there are some versions of Cubase that do not require the dongle. I have a boxed copy of "SE", which is fully registered and does not use a dongle. It's typically available for $90-100 from most major retailers. There are differences between SE and SX3 of course, but for my purposes (2-4 channel remote recording - tracking only) it was more than enough.

Now if this is actually SX3, then it's not legit for sure. But if it's SE it could very well be legitimate.

Dirk

PS - the OEM version is "LE" and it is not supposed to be sold separately - it was designed to be sold with hardware and is only legitimately available that way. I posted the same attachment that Narco referred to on another thread as well; here is the link:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=53805

It's useful for determining if you REALLY need to shell out the bucks for SX versus SE...

[GearGuy]

celebritymusic -grow a pair and use your brain... How could Cubase SX ever cost under $100... do you really think a dealer make a 500% mark-up?!?! Don't be so gullible by internet scams...

Nuendo will always have all the functions of CubaseSX, which was the original question. I would suggest you spend some time on the Steinberg website... there are several PDF documents that detail the differences between SE/LE/SL/SX and what is included in Nuendo that is not in Cubase...

[skygod]

Originally Posted by celebritymusic

Hi

I know Nuendo has a heap of features that Cubase doesn't, but I was wondering if Cubase has features that Nuendo doesn't have - anything I would miss if I got Nuendo?

Thanks!

Shaun

Shaun that’s a really good question. I am a Nuendo user since I do post, surround, composition, film, TV, documentaries, film and was wondering whether to buy Cubase SX4 as well. I'm gonna try to answer your question standing back from the forest and seeing the big pic (all the trees) versus getting too close and freaking out looking up at the tall trees and weeds and vine wrapping around everybody’s throats and choking them to death. This post is for ITB only and not OTB, and not necessarily ITB-OTB. JUST ITB modular setups!!!!

I just got done reading the:
Nuendo 3 v. Cubase 4
closed post. Jesus Joseph and faaking Mary, what a vitriolic uninformative thread that was lol.

Know what? The Nuendo specs are all here at:
Steinberg Canada - Nuendo 3

Its all pretty obvious on the surface but consider these issues as well. Besides the post and surround licenses in Nuendo that you pay extra for (BTW in Nashville that’s pronounced Extry) , it seems to me, and I'm going out on a limb on this as a non-PTools antagonist, that folks that enjoy working in PTools primarily for the audio piece and want to integrate that into "post production," Nuendo will probably find it easier to do the conversions from certain PTools file formats and hardware I/O surfaces more seamlessly, but not vice versa of course since Digi hates everybody else and likes to overcomplicate their existences with their endless monopoly one-way work flow minutia.

I'm saying that on a limb from other posts that I've read from Cubase SX3 and PTools co-junct users who've articulated horror stories of very complicated and time consuming workarounds moving their hard work back and forth between software and hardware formats to where they gave up and just said faakit!.

Some say that Nuendo GUI is old school versus Cubase GUI as new school. Whatthefukk does that mean anyway? Motown vs LA vs Nashville vs NYC? … getthefuggouttahere fuggedaboudit! My advice to anybody out there:

- If you are using Yamaha digital mixers particularly (02R96V2/DM2000VCM etc), Nuendo integrates very well.
- If your business is growing towards post vid/film integration in various formats, get Nuendo.
- If you cannot justify the diff in expenditure otherwise, and have an 8-24 track RME FF800/ADI-8 direct to hard drive setup for audio only, or want a more sophisticated GUI and engine that what Presonus offers on its new firestudio hardware/software I/O, then get Cubase.
- For ITB exclusive folks out there, the Cubase and Nuendo plugs are not great, nor is the lower end PSP etc stuff but its all useable for demos and rapid compositional mixes.
- If you are serious about building a modular ITB workstation that'll do audio track to mix to master, and have a long term plan to do this professionally for a living, then here’s your priorities in this following order. If you don’t then you’re fukked in the long term and will keep spending good money after bad fixing what was obvious at the onset by cutting corners:
a. Studio space and soundproofing
b. Mic closet MIN: (2LDC, 2SDC, 2 Ribbon, 2 Dynamic) Choose wisely grasshopper. You can record the universe with these period!
c. ITB workstation Hardware I/O + Software I/O. My choice is Apple over Intel. Cubase, Nuendo, Logic, Final Mix etc are optimized in this hardware architecture. ASIO will always be an issue and Vista overcomplicates it at 64 bit. These machines are dinosours and suck for high number crunching audio or video work. Intel are great for office/business control, but were never designed for pro audio/video. Many who made the plunge will argue with that to justify their Sweetwater Creation Station Wonder with its 2GB RAM overhead expenditure. Hey folks, anyway you look at it its all about number crunching ‘1s and 0s’ the mostest fastest and betterest. It requires max RAM, MAX CPU power, MAX and most efficient digital path bus route, MAX Firewire 800 and 400 and cardbus and expansion capabilities etc. Remember Apple is Modular and open-ended. The Intel architecture Peters out sooner or later at everything you need to get beyond. Hey I’m not here to argue or debate it. Take it or leave it. Its your money spent at the end of the day. My 2 cents.
d. Best software platforms that will integrate with UAD plus and PCI/e cards. Your goal for a “growing business” is to have a standalone ITB station that will inetgarte most seamlessly with this state of the art software. 3x UAD-Extremes PCIe, and at MIN with 1 FW External Xtreme. This is a lot of plug power folks, As a long time Helios user, I’m here to confess that the newly released UAD Helios Type 69 are amazing. Hell you could build a 24 channel Helios submixer inside your ITB station for under $5G. Ammmmaaaazzzzziiiiinnnnnggggg!!!!!! More if you want with an add-on expansion slot device? I am not sure if the Digi expansion boxes will work with another architechture other than digi software. Somebody else must answer that for you. I personally don’t use’em or need’em.
e. Mackie Control pro with expanders if you do not have a Yamaha mixer with built in Machine CTRL functionality.
f. External MDM (HD24XR/Radar) if you prefer to track to a dedicated MDM as I do. Xtra money spent but well worth the expenditure in the long term esp if you do a lot of mobile work and globetrot as we do. Frees up CPU I/O for dedicated mixing and mastering tasks. Also opens different doors for tracking raw channels and mixing these thru an analog desk to another set of MDMs in realtime on location. But that’s another discussion for ITB-OTB. Let’s remain focused here on ITB exclusively.
g. Make sure you leave the door open for future SACD/Surround mixing capability expansion. The audio world is mostly in dual mono and stereo, but if you are heading toward post, TV, film, docu …. be prepared for surround from the onset even if you have no clue what that means or entails.

Well that’s a quick and dirty. I’m sorry if I offended any vendors out there by only mentioning UA, but you know what? Outside of TDM for non-PTools engineers, UA IS THE ONLY GAME IN TWON as far as my pocketbook is concerned. It’s your money. It’s your ears. It’s your future. My 2 cents -

Good luck –

~skygod~

[dementedchord]

reopening 1 1/2yr old posts can be relevent i guess... or your bored???