X desk or midas venice or?

[skybluerental]

a midas venice is a way more useful tool in my opinion.

the sound of the units will be different but comparable, but the venice will do a lot more.

[Unknown soldier]

Originally Posted by The777artin

Simple :

- if you have external pres an EQs......then go X-Desk.
- if not and you need pres and EQs......then go Venice.

As far as routing the Venice offer more auxes and groups. The X-Desk offer a real center.

Only you knbow your needs.........don't let GS members tell you what you need.

I've worked with both.........and both options sounds good.

Actually I need EQ but not pre's. So, the biggest difference for my use is that the venice would have the EQ but no center section. The SSL would have the monitoring facilities but no EQ.

No built in EQ means I need outboard, and cheap rackmount EQ's probably won't sound as good as the venice EQ.

With venice I guess I could use my dangerous DBox for monitoring, but I need to sell it to buy the venice.......eh.

[trashman]

Not sure what you ended up doing, but based on your needs, I would go for the Venice.

If you need EQ, the Venice clearly meets your need. The summing is superb, but more than that, the whole together is fantastic.

With good mix bus comps you can easily produce professional results.

[2pulse]

I'm kind of in the same boat, and there's not a lot to choose from when it comes to compact high quality line mixers. Venice may be the best way to go for me, but I wish I weren't paying for another set of pre's when I've got those covered elsewhere.

X-desk with only 8 faders and no EQ and severely crippled bussing would not give the kind of flexibility i'm looking for...

Speck's Xtramix also has no EQ, though the routing options are there in spades. No faders though... gotta have those faders!

Which brings me to the LiLo... $8.7k????

Take a deep breath...

[trashman]

The LILO doesn't have eq either.

There is also toft ATB or neotekand doesn't tl audio have a tube board?

Do You need an 8 bus?

I don't know why toft doesn't just take the crappy pre out of the ATB and stick in the atc compressor circuit instead.

Over and over I hear people asking for this.

I wish FMR would team up with a company like Speck to make a hi-end compact "mixing" board.

[trashman]

Oh yeah ...
The Venice preamps while not used that often are cool to have because they put inserts on the channels. Otherwise, there prolly wouldn't be inserts.