Coles Manufacturer

jpupo74 · 5th February 2006, 08:53 AM

Hi Slutz,

I've been searching about Coles and haven't found the manufacturer. What corporation is it? Who builds them? Just curious...

Pupo

Ol' Betsey · 5th February 2006, 12:10 PM

That would be Coles Electroacoustics...

But their website seems to be down

Ribbon lurvliness

R.

jpupo74 · 5th February 2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Betsey

That would be Coles Electroacoustics...

But their website seems to be down

Ribbon lurvliness

R.

Oh man, I believe it was that one but I've trying this since a looong time ago and NADA! I think they have a name that can live without a website!

Pupo

TimmyP1955 · 6th February 2006, 04:56 AM

US Distributor: http://www.independentaudio.com/CDCa...TML/coles.html

Matt Grondin · 9th February 2006, 06:53 AM

The Coles site is back up.... god, those things are amazing.

jpupo74 · 9th February 2006, 08:24 AM

Hey,

It seems that Coles Electroacoustics read this thread!

And there's also a new add from independent audio, or was it here before?

Pupo

C/G · 9th February 2006, 04:06 PM

If you are in Canada call Noah at Pro Audio Canada. They carry Coles now.

PRobb · 9th February 2006, 05:03 PM

If someone from Coles is actually reading this- whats with the connecter?!?!?!? I love the mic, but it's size and weight don't make it the easiest thing to place. Why in the world doesn't it come with an XLR? Does anyone in the world use it without the XLR adapter? Just build it with an XLR. And don't change anything else. It's a wonderful mic. Thank you.

jpupo74 · 10th February 2006, 01:30 AM

I thought I was gonna find more info on the website. I've heard that some people own lots of these mics because a lot of models with different impedances where produced. So...I think I'm wrong...or???

Pupo

Ol' Betsey · 10th February 2006, 10:24 AM

Hi Pupo,

I don't know THAT much about em' (I just use em' - my favourite O/H now..) but I think the new Coles are all 300 Ohm now.

I think the older ones had a higher impedence, not sure though.

Again, I could be wrong on all counts...

All I do know is that I can plug the newer 4038's into my API and they sound wonderful.

Still gotta try the 4040's.

R.

jpupo74 · 10th February 2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Betsey

Hi Pupo,

I don't know THAT much about em' (I just use em' - my favourite O/H now..) but I think the new Coles are all 300 Ohm now.

I think the older ones had a higher impedence, not sure though.

Again, I could be wrong on all counts...

All I do know is that I can plug the newer 4038's into my API and they sound wonderful.

Still gotta try the 4040's.

R.

Hi Ol' Betsey,

Thanx for the info. I did tried them on O.H.'s and didn't like them that much. I think I have to try them more and play with them a lot. The same day I tried 441's 87's Beyer 130's 4011's and 4038's where for me and other 6 engineers, the "take those out of there now" mics.

Pupo

C/G · 10th February 2006, 11:19 PM

How were the Beyer M130's? I am curious about those.

not_so_new · 10th February 2006, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Betsey

Still gotta try the 4040's.

R.

Yes you do....

I am still amazed

that the 4040 is not talked about very much (if at all). I stand on the highest hill and shout about how dreadfully cool this mic is all the time. It is a heavyweight contender for sure.

Nice ribbon goodness with all kinds of smooth but more open top end than you would expect and more detail. It's like taking all the things you would want in a LDC and a ribbon and rolling them into one kick a$$ package. Maybe not u47 but not like any other ribbon I have ever tried that's for sure.

Just don't get why people are not raving about this mic. The audio world is a strange and fickle place. The 4040 just has not made it to "The Flavor of the Month Club" yet I guess.

Really you should check it out. Sorry to get OT.

jpupo74 · 11th February 2006, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

How were the Beyer M130's? I am curious about those.

I recently posted somewhere around here that I loved them...
FWIW is a good deal and they worked better than the Coles in this specific situation.
I really was expecting more from the Coles, for other things for sure they just kick ass though.

Pupo

Ol' Betsey · 11th February 2006, 01:24 PM

@ NSN - Yeah I'm definitely gonna check out the 4040's. To be honest, I look forward to that (if you can call it this?) 'newer old sound' of the Coles.

@ Pupo - I can totally dig it. Different strokes etc...

I can say that I've used 160's (my least favourite on O/H but nice on ambients), 121's (which used to be my 'go to' overhead) and the 4038's which are now my favourite.

In my book the 4038's certainly don't sound anything like a DPA or an 87 and really, depending on what your looking for, they would have stood out like a sore thumb in that company but I wouldn't give up on em' just yet.

Who knows, maybe it really isn't the sound your after but the thing is, I used 414, 87, 441, 4033, MK12 and then finally started getting closer (and I mean really close) to the sound I was after with the Royers.

And you know the first time I tried the 4038's in my 'normal' O/H placement, I just thought 'Hmmm, there's really got to me more to these'. Then my drummer and I started experimenting with different placements, a few inches here, a few inches there, up a bit here, behind over here and then it just kinda HIT.

Then I messed with a little EQ, added a little compression (I simply love the API 2500 for drums) and WHAM.

My drummer was like 'Jesus, I knew that kit sounded good but, oh my god' and that was it.

And that is where I'm at now.

Are they the be all and end all of mics? Nah. But maybe give them a little bit more of a chance?

Oh... And they look cool too.

Hang in there and good luck.

R.

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5th February 2006, 08:53 AM	#1
jpupo74 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colombia / Montreal Posts: 598	Coles Manufacturer Hi Slutz, I've been searching about Coles and haven't found the manufacturer. What corporation is it? Who builds them? Just curious... Pupo __________________ www.josepupo.com

5th February 2006, 12:10 PM	#2
Ol' Betsey Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,157	That would be Coles Electroacoustics... But their website seems to be down Ribbon lurvliness R. __________________ When I haven't any blue I use red. (Pablo Picasso) A 'live' musician/producer struggling with technology... Ol' Betsey Satan - The Original Flower Shop 8 track - "She fought long and she fought hard..."

6th February 2006, 04:56 AM	#4
TimmyP1955 Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 24	Coles US Distributor: http://www.independentaudio.com/CDCa...TML/coles.html

9th February 2006, 06:53 AM	#5
Matt Grondin Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville Beach, FL Posts: 1,106	The Coles site is back up.... god, those things are amazing. __________________ Matt Grondin http://www.myspace.com/incamaya http://www.inca-maya.com

9th February 2006, 08:24 AM	#6
jpupo74 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colombia / Montreal Posts: 598	Hey, It seems that Coles Electroacoustics read this thread! And there's also a new add from independent audio, or was it here before? Pupo __________________ www.josepupo.com

9th February 2006, 04:06 PM	#7
C/G Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,813	If you are in Canada call Noah at Pro Audio Canada. They carry Coles now. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Colin G.

9th February 2006, 05:03 PM	#8
PRobb Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 7,994	If someone from Coles is actually reading this- whats with the connecter?!?!?!? I love the mic, but it's size and weight don't make it the easiest thing to place. Why in the world doesn't it come with an XLR? Does anyone in the world use it without the XLR adapter? Just build it with an XLR. And don't change anything else. It's a wonderful mic. Thank you.

10th February 2006, 01:30 AM	#9
jpupo74 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colombia / Montreal Posts: 598	I thought I was gonna find more info on the website. I've heard that some people own lots of these mics because a lot of models with different impedances where produced. So...I think I'm wrong...or??? Pupo __________________ www.josepupo.com

10th February 2006, 10:24 AM	#10
Ol' Betsey Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,157	Hi Pupo, I don't know THAT much about em' (I just use em' - my favourite O/H now..) but I think the new Coles are all 300 Ohm now. I think the older ones had a higher impedence, not sure though. Again, I could be wrong on all counts... All I do know is that I can plug the newer 4038's into my API and they sound wonderful. Still gotta try the 4040's. R. __________________ When I haven't any blue I use red. (Pablo Picasso) A 'live' musician/producer struggling with technology... Ol' Betsey Satan - The Original Flower Shop 8 track - "She fought long and she fought hard..."

10th February 2006, 11:19 PM	#12
C/G Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,813	How were the Beyer M130's? I am curious about those. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Colin G.

11th February 2006, 01:24 PM	#15
Ol' Betsey Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,157	@ NSN - Yeah I'm definitely gonna check out the 4040's. To be honest, I look forward to that (if you can call it this?) 'newer old sound' of the Coles. @ Pupo - I can totally dig it. Different strokes etc... I can say that I've used 160's (my least favourite on O/H but nice on ambients), 121's (which used to be my 'go to' overhead) and the 4038's which are now my favourite. In my book the 4038's certainly don't sound anything like a DPA or an 87 and really, depending on what your looking for, they would have stood out like a sore thumb in that company but I wouldn't give up on em' just yet. Who knows, maybe it really isn't the sound your after but the thing is, I used 414, 87, 441, 4033, MK12 and then finally started getting closer (and I mean really close) to the sound I was after with the Royers. And you know the first time I tried the 4038's in my 'normal' O/H placement, I just thought 'Hmmm, there's really got to me more to these'. Then my drummer and I started experimenting with different placements, a few inches here, a few inches there, up a bit here, behind over here and then it just kinda HIT. Then I messed with a little EQ, added a little compression (I simply love the API 2500 for drums) and WHAM. My drummer was like 'Jesus, I knew that kit sounded good but, oh my god' and that was it. And that is where I'm at now. Are they the be all and end all of mics? Nah. But maybe give them a little bit more of a chance? Oh... And they look cool too. Hang in there and good luck. R. __________________ When I haven't any blue I use red. (Pablo Picasso) A 'live' musician/producer struggling with technology... Ol' Betsey Satan - The Original Flower Shop 8 track - "She fought long and she fought hard..."

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