What's your favourite alternative kick and snare mic

[Arthurelletson]

Originally Posted by monkeyxx

hahaha just kidding. I bet not enough people own one to make a comment. that's the crazy one with two mics in one, right?

Yeah that's it. Would be interesting to know if the mics in it are available separately under another name.

[Sim]

Originally Posted by sonic dogg

Lack of low end with an ATM25 is placement only. When I use mine 'inside' the kik I angle it off the beater strike or there will be way too much klick. You cant kill that mic and it will do exactly what you ask it to. If you want that huge kik sound pull it out to the resonant head like you would a D6. The ATM25 has so much more frequecy response than all the specialty kik mics its not even a contest. I've owned em all and this one is the only one to get anywhere close to the AKG D20 I had for a couple of years. Makes a great 'shouter' vocal mic.

awesome I love d20's have used the d25 also pretty sweet to. I have only had my atm25 on kick twice and not really experimented that much i was doing ruff tracks I'll have a bit of a tweak with placement and see how it goes. First time I used one was live and we used it for screamo vocals lol it's pretty good though.

[Sim]

Originally Posted by PMF

on the snare either a Beta 98 AMP/C, SM57 or a Beta 56A
on the Kick either a Beta 52A or an AKG D112

I wouldn't say a 57, 52a or a d112 are alternative

[andychamp]

I recently had nice results with a Neumann KMS 105.

[joeq]

Crown PZM 30d for the kick, just sit it on the blanket

you kind of hear the whole interior of the drum.

I also have an old Shure 55 "Elvis" mic that while somewhat band-limited, can be kind of a cool alternative inside the hole.

somebody mentioned 414 on the snare, I do this so often, I don't even think of it as an 'alternative'.

[Providence]

Had a session recently with just a kick, snare, hh, ride. Very vibey and open sounds so we were trying different mics. I had acquired four Oktava 319 mics a year ago so I broke one out for the snare. Sounded great!! We tried several mics on kick and the 319 sounded great here as well! And....you guessed it we ended up using the other two for a mono over and a mono hall mic. That's right folks, four 319s on a single kit. Who would have guessed.

[Sim]

Originally Posted by Providence

Had a session recently with just a kick, snare, hh, ride. Very vibey and open sounds so we were trying different mics. I had acquired four Oktava 319 mics a year ago so I broke one out for the snare. Sounded great!! We tried several mics on kick and the 319 sounded great here as well! And....you guessed it we ended up using the other two for a mono over and a mono hall mic. That's right folks, four 319s on a single kit. Who would have guessed.

Cool have you got a clip I'd be interested to see how that sounded

[olliejohn]

I second what joeq said about the Shure 55 on kick - I always find it pleasantly surprising

[jordanvoth]

CAD E100s makes both a great kick and snare mic. Too bad I only have one of them.

[bigdig]

Neat trick I learned a few years back: beyer m 160 about two feet in front of the kick. Flip the phase, and prepare to rock.

[Sim]

Originally Posted by olliejohn

I second what joeq said about the Shure 55 on kick - I always find it pleasantly surprising

Do you guys have the old 55s as the new one is just a 58 inside, Winehouse used a 55 on the daptone recordings for the drums and paired it with a rca 44a. Sounds great I have a ribbon might pair it witha 57 unidyne and see what happens. That was the only two mics on the kit.

[Steele]

One mic I love on s kick Is an EV-664.

[monkeyxx]

the EV 660 is another 'secret weapon' kick drum microphone, sounds good inside

[Syncamorea]

Originally Posted by Trakworx

Kick (outside): Cascade Fat Head II - deep and pillowy.

I've gotten great sound of the whole kit with a pair of Fathead II's set up mid-side out front of the ride looking over at the snare. The drummer would no doubt point out that his playing was so special and iphone mic would have sounded great.

[Sim]

I really gotta get my hands on a ev 664, 664, 666 or 660 they amount of times people say how good these are on kick its really starting to give me itchy feet. Anyhow they're nearlly impossible to acquire in the uk, suck to be me.

[shortstory]

Just did a session with a 441 on snare top & an SE voodoo ribbon on side/bottom; heil PR40 inside kik with wunder FET47 outside.

no compression, no EQ thru vintage Neve 66/73

had 184s on toms thru wunder PEQ2s with SSL E dynamics

sounded thunderous-

[olliejohn]

Originally Posted by Sim

Do you guys have the old 55s as the new one is just a 58 inside, Winehouse used a 55 on the daptone recordings for the drums and paired it with a rca 44a. Sounds great I have a ribbon might pair it witha 57 unidyne and see what happens. That was the only two mics on the kit.

I've got a 55 from 1949 which is my go-to 55, or if thats being used on something else (it kills on horns for instance), then I've got a cheap T.Bone GM55 copy which comes out.
I originally got the idea from seeing what Daptone were doing. On their own recordings with the Dap-Kings, they often use the 55 on it's own as a single mic. I've tried this and I found that it works great as long as you've got a pretty low pitched snare. I first tried it with a DW piccolo snare and the result can only be described as painful

[adamboon]

I used a copperphone on the snare bottom the other day...

[jrod9900]

A kick mic that worked swimmingly for me was the Royer R101. It was set up on outside of kick about 8-10" back I think. It was soooo thick and boomy. Boom for days. I always wanted to try it, but I was scared I'd ruin the ribbon. Then I thought "no guts, no glory!"

Snare top this weekend was a Beyer 201 and a 57. To be completely honest, though the sounds were different in a good way, I still don't see how people say the 57 is a horrible mic. I do want to hate it sometimes, but it always just works...

Jrod

[Sim]

Originally Posted by shortstory

Just did a session with a 441 on snare top & an SE voodoo ribbon on side/bottom; heil PR40 inside kik with wunder FET47 outside.

no compression, no EQ thru vintage Neve 66/73

had 184s on toms thru wunder PEQ2s with SSL E dynamics

sounded thunderous-

We need to get samples going in this thread.

[12ax7]

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Try this for snare:

Top: ElectroVoice RE15:

Bottom: AKG D-12

(No, NOT the D-112 "Space Football", but this one):

Be advised that the subsequent treatment of this setup will probably be wildly different from what you're used to doing for a top/bottom setup.

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[Sim]

D-12 on the snare bottom, I'd need 2 to not be using it on the kick lol

[dylanwissing]

Originally Posted by Sim

D-12 on the snare bottom, I'd need 2 to not be using it on the kick lol

Yeah, and if you happen to have a couple of extra D-12s let me know - I'll take 'em!

[LPP]

DPA 4003 on the snare, D12e and 47 FET on the kick. A Sony C-55p makes an interesting substitute for the 47 fet if there's one around.

[wrenc]

I'm a pretty big fan of the Audio-Technica ATM450 on snare. And its design makes it super-easy to place it virtually any way you want to.

[RightOnRome]

Originally Posted by Sim

D-12 on the snare bottom, I'd need 2 to not be using it on the kick lol

yes no doubt