Drum Group vs Track Copmression

Trebor Flow · 25th January 2006

What’s the difference between individual track compression on Kick, Snare and Toms as opposed to an overall compressor on a drum group.

My thinking has been that a drum group compressor interacts differently, as a Kick hit will affect a cymbal hit or ride etc.

Do some people use both track compression and Drum group compression (baring in mind I also use a touch of SSL style Mix Bus Compression as I mix (ALA Charles Dye MILAR)

Oh I also have been trying Voxengo Tapebus on the Drum Group – which actually gives a nice tape emul.

Any feedback would be really appreciated

Trebor

PS I tried seaching - but found very little.

WEAPON_X · 25th January 2006

different application for me, and i do compress individually and as a group.

individually - treating kick, snare toms etc, you have really micro controll over the envelope,sound and character of each part individually.
group - putting it all together, glueing, macro controll and "slotting" it into it's place in the mix. and when using a colorfull compressor, you give all the group a identical sonic character and bring the interaction alive.

bloodstone · 25th January 2006

When people talk about using parallel compression on drums, are they compressing channels, group, or both?

True North · 25th January 2006

Paralell compression involves creating two bus groups. On Drums for instance, one of the Drum bus groups is compressed or squashed while the other buss group is left uncompressed. In the case of drums you may also be compressing individual channels as well as the bus group - but there are no absolute rules on that part of it. Hope that helps, cheers!

25th January 2006	#1
Trebor Flow Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 523 Thread Starter	Drum Group vs Track Copmression What’s the difference between individual track compression on Kick, Snare and Toms as opposed to an overall compressor on a drum group. My thinking has been that a drum group compressor interacts differently, as a Kick hit will affect a cymbal hit or ride etc. Do some people use both track compression and Drum group compression (baring in mind I also use a touch of SSL style Mix Bus Compression as I mix (ALA Charles Dye MILAR) Oh I also have been trying Voxengo Tapebus on the Drum Group – which actually gives a nice tape emul. Any feedback would be really appreciated Trebor PS I tried seaching - but found very little.

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WEAPON_X Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 315	different application for me, and i do compress individually and as a group. individually - treating kick, snare toms etc, you have really micro controll over the envelope,sound and character of each part individually. group - putting it all together, glueing, macro controll and "slotting" it into it's place in the mix. and when using a colorfull compressor, you give all the group a identical sonic character and bring the interaction alive. __________________ WEAPON_X HARDER FASTER MORE MORE MORE ! NOW ! VORSICHT: NICHT STREICHELN! BISSIG !

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True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 3,203	Paralell compression involves creating two bus groups. On Drums for instance, one of the Drum bus groups is compressed or squashed while the other buss group is left uncompressed. In the case of drums you may also be compressing individual channels as well as the bus group - but there are no absolute rules on that part of it. Hope that helps, cheers! __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

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bloodstone Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 657	When people talk about using parallel compression on drums, are they compressing channels, group, or both?