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M/S compression?

Does anyone use two different compressors (one mid, one side) when recording M/S stereo?

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i'm sorry..just to clarify (sp?) you're talking about compressing the center position mic and both channels of the fig8?
or seperate compression of the sides of the fig8?

tracking not soo much so..mixing oh boy...and how...
does it screw with it....of course..fun..why not..
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Does anyone use two different compressors (one mid, one side) when recording M/S stereo?

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Let this one bounce around in the ol noggin a bit. . .

Different EQ's in M/S. Or saturate the Side only.

(I've already said too much!)
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I meant one mid and one side compressor

Its just that I'd never thought of doing this till yesterday, I don't often record in M/S

I don't see any reason you couldn't, just wondering if anyone does?

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This is that fake, sheeny sound you get from some FM stations. FM broadcast is, essentially, M/S with the matrix in your stereo.

I'm pretty sure I've heard stations playing these games with the transmitter to "enhance" the stereo image....




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ooooohh that does sound interesting..
hmmm
$1500 for a used one on eBay....
bit rich for my pockets...
but that's a really cool looking box...
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I think I'm going to be sick.

The ad copy for the Orban gear talks about "signature sound" "regardless of source material". Yech!




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no ones saying they were gonna mix threw the damn thing...
just an interesting way to figure out what the trak is gonna sound like on the radio..
if you want something to get sick about try Alito
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I think I'm going to be sick.

The ad copy for the Orban gear talks about "signature sound" "regardless of source material". Yech!
-tINY

MS is seriously cool, but I tend to go overboard and overdo it
thank you for the cool info guys.

As for the Optimod: I think the basic setup is completely transparent, but you can change the "signature" according to taste. like euh eq and dynamics... the new optimod must have the coolest interface ever, mmmm fisherprice knobs, but starship power.. just the thing for me..

drool..
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btw tINY: a friend of mine is a graphic designer and developed an allergy to comic sans

when I want to mess with him my emails are in comic sans, I think he develops a nasty rash haha

(just kidding, but he IS allergic to it!)
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Yes, I have tracked M-S recordings with two individual comps set differently, for recording. In one room I needed to comp the M significantly more than the S (I think it was 3.5:1, which for me is a lot for tracking orchestra, while the side was tracking at 1.5 or 2:1).

I have also tried M-S for drum OHs with two different comps, both with pretty large compression ratios. I seem to recall this was not an excellent room sound, but I don't think it was the compression that sucked the width away, it was the wrong pattern for the room--Blumlein with the same comps sounded wider.
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Does anyone use two different compressors (one mid, one side) when recording M/S stereo?

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Bob Katz talks about M-S compression in his book "Mastering Audio." I have not tried it yet but it seems like it might be cool in some situations. This is a great book with lots of good information, especially about compression techniques. I recommend to all audio engineers.
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that tfpro P38 is essentially a MS compressor, to counter the differences in opto cells. At least that is what I grasped. But you can't put different compression on the M or S.

EDIT: Wouldn't it be cool to have an insert in that machine!!!!!! or two. One pre compression, and one post!!!!!!!! I'm still waiting for the importer to invite me for a demo. maybe I have to call them again. aaah customer relations, who needs that sh!t.

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