Ribbon mic

Superchemi · 13th January 2006

Hi everybody:

I`m looking for a ribbon mic to record electric guitar.

Royer 121 it´s an standard, but it`s expensive for me.

Oktava ML 52 or Beyerdinamic M160 are my options.

Whose your favorite?

Should i save money and buy a Royer?

Opinions?

**toolskid** · 13th January 2006

I can't recommend Royer highly enough!!!!

sheltersoton · 13th January 2006

avoid the Oktava, it's one of their weaker mics.. dark, dull, quiet... bit of a let down.

a lot of good things said about the shiny box mics... i myself lust after the beyers

Jamz · 13th January 2006

I'm not familar with the Octava.
The M160 will work on guitar.
However, I personally would save for the Royer. It's excellent on guitars and other applications as well i.e drums, percussion, vocals, brass, piano.
IMO You can't really go wrong with it.

Also, the AEA R92 or perhaps R84 might work for you. They're a little less expensive than the Royer. The R84 has become one of my favorite mics.

Cujo · 13th January 2006

SE has a royersque mic out now, I think it's about 8 bills. I have not heard it.
There is the Shiney Box type to, with the TX upgrades

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superchemi

Hi everybody:

I`m looking for a ribbon mic to record electric guitar.

Royer 121 it´s an standard, but it`s expensive for me.

Oktava ML 52 or Beyerdinamic M160 are my options.

Whose your favorite?

Should i save money and buy a Royer?

Opinions?

eligit · 13th January 2006

i am loving the aea r84. sounds "big" on electric guitar if you want it to (placement). especially overdriven. takes eq amazingly well. i can really carve away at it and still end up with a musical tone. it just sounds great. and if you have new strings it actually gives a really cool sound on acoustic (not super delicate playing, more like strumming). sort of smooth old school sound on acoustic. but with unobtrusive detail..

AdamJay · 13th January 2006

Sweetwater has a Beyerdynamic M130 + M160 bundle for $999
i think its a steal. Sometimes you want a figure 8, and sometimes you don't. So in that regard its a very versatile bundle.

i haven't used the Oktava.
but i did buy a pair of ShinyBox 23C's for the cost of one M160 and i am very happy with them. Nice even tone, and it takes EQ very well, but many ribbons do.

whatever you buy,
just make sure you have a nice preamp with plenty of clean gain.

mltamisin · 13th January 2006

For electric guitar A Royer R-121 is the ultimate mic. It never ceases to amaze me. Pair it with a SM57 or I-5 or anything like that & it's untouchable.

Meriphew · 13th January 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolskid

I can't recommend Royer highly enough!!!!

I couldn't agree more. Save your money and get either an R-121, or an R-122. I have an R-121 that I usually pair with an API pre for e. guits and for me the results have been stunning.

Jetblack · 13th January 2006

Do yourself a favor and listen to everyones Royer recommendations. The 121 is stellar! Both Beyers are really nice, but not as flexible (especially on percussion).

Superchemi · 13th January 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJay

Sweetwater has a Beyerdynamic M130 + M160 bundle for $999
i think its a steal. Sometimes you want a figure 8, and sometimes you don't. So in that regard its a very versatile bundle.

i haven't used the Oktava.
but i did buy a pair of ShinyBox 23C's for the cost of one M160 and i am very happy with them. Nice even tone, and it takes EQ very well, but many ribbons do.

whatever you buy,
just make sure you have a nice preamp with plenty of clean gain.

Could i use Neve 1272 pres?

Shiny box has 3 models, and your are...

AdamJay · 13th January 2006

that'll do.

as mentioned above, i have a pair of ShinyBox 23C's

Mike Tholen · 13th January 2006

You should get the Beyer 160's and the Royers...
I actually prefer a Coles 4038 more often than the Royers.

Ol' Betsey · 13th January 2006

GT = Royer for me.

Can't really see myself recording a guitar without one nowadays.

That's just me though...

R.

Blueflame · 14th January 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujo

SE has a royersque mic out now, I think it's about 8 bills. I have not heard it.

I have the sE - I actually like it a lot, but it's also my first ribbon. The way I judge is whether or not a mic or instrument makes me want to make music on it and not think of something technical.

Superchemi · 23rd January 2006

Any one knows Tbone ribbon mics?
Any experience with this mics?
Good on guitars?

C/G · 23rd January 2006

Never tried a Royer R121. I have used Beyer M160, AEA R84, and my new favorite on elec guitar the Fostex M88-RP. If you go the Beyer route Full Compass has the cheapest prices I have seen.

Fletcher · 23rd January 2006

I've been having quite a bit of fun wiht the Crowley and Tripp mics. Don't know if I'm going to buy them yet or not... but I have to say they've been pretty interesting.

Zoe-Ruth · 25th January 2006

i just recorded a drum session today using that Royer. it's the best kick sound i've ever gotten. AMAZING!!!!!
i borrowed it from a friend and he got it on ebay for around $900.
spend the extra $ and get the Royer!
p.s.
it also sounds AWSOME on acoustic guitars

13th January 2006	#1
Superchemi Gear interested Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Madrid (Spain) Posts: 22 Thread Starter	Ribbon mic Hi everybody: I`m looking for a ribbon mic to record electric guitar. Royer 121 it´s an standard, but it`s expensive for me. Oktava ML 52 or Beyerdinamic M160 are my options. Whose your favorite? Should i save money and buy a Royer? Opinions?

13th January 2006	#4
Jamz Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Bucks County/Philly, PA Posts: 2,344	I'm not familar with the Octava. The M160 will work on guitar. However, I personally would save for the Royer. It's excellent on guitars and other applications as well i.e drums, percussion, vocals, brass, piano. IMO You can't really go wrong with it. Also, the AEA R92 or perhaps R84 might work for you. They're a little less expensive than the Royer. The R84 has become one of my favorite mics. __________________ Jim Salamone http://cambridgesoundstudios.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Newtow...9272438?ref=ts http://www.reverbnation.com/cambridgesoundstudios

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Ol' Betsey Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 2,035 1 Review written	GT = Royer for me. Can't really see myself recording a guitar without one nowadays. That's just me though... R. __________________ The Speaker Snuggy is specifically designed to compensate for the additive effect of using plugins which literally remove the blanket from your speakers. These plugins can sound good when solo'd, but when used across dozens of tracks they can leave your speakers sounding cold and insecure. (Casey / Bricasti) When I haven't any blue I use red. (Pablo Picasso) Ol' Betsey Satan - The Original Flower Shop 8 track - "She fought long and she fought hard..."

23rd January 2006	#17
C/G Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,829	Never tried a Royer R121. I have used Beyer M160, AEA R84, and my new favorite on elec guitar the Fostex M88-RP. If you go the Beyer route Full Compass has the cheapest prices I have seen. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------

23rd January 2006	#18
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,110	I've been having quite a bit of fun wiht the Crowley and Tripp mics. Don't know if I'm going to buy them yet or not... but I have to say they've been pretty interesting. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

13th January 2006	#2
toolskid Moderator Joined: Jan 2004 Location: london Posts: 2,787	I can't recommend Royer highly enough!!!!

13th January 2006	#3
sheltersoton Gear addict Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 438	avoid the Oktava, it's one of their weaker mics.. dark, dull, quiet... bit of a let down. a lot of good things said about the shiny box mics... i myself lust after the beyers

13th January 2006	#6
eligit Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,802	i am loving the aea r84. sounds "big" on electric guitar if you want it to (placement). especially overdriven. takes eq amazingly well. i can really carve away at it and still end up with a musical tone. it just sounds great. and if you have new strings it actually gives a really cool sound on acoustic (not super delicate playing, more like strumming). sort of smooth old school sound on acoustic. but with unobtrusive detail..

13th January 2006	#7
AdamJay Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,825	Sweetwater has a Beyerdynamic M130 + M160 bundle for $999 i think its a steal. Sometimes you want a figure 8, and sometimes you don't. So in that regard its a very versatile bundle. i haven't used the Oktava. but i did buy a pair of ShinyBox 23C's for the cost of one M160 and i am very happy with them. Nice even tone, and it takes EQ very well, but many ribbons do. whatever you buy, just make sure you have a nice preamp with plenty of clean gain.

13th January 2006	#8
mltamisin Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,173 1 Review written	For electric guitar A Royer R-121 is the ultimate mic. It never ceases to amaze me. Pair it with a SM57 or I-5 or anything like that & it's untouchable.

13th January 2006	#10
Jetblack Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 585	Do yourself a favor and listen to everyones Royer recommendations. The 121 is stellar! Both Beyers are really nice, but not as flexible (especially on percussion).

13th January 2006	#13
Mike Tholen Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 901	You should get the Beyer 160's and the Royers... I actually prefer a Coles 4038 more often than the Royers.

25th January 2006	#19
Zoe-Ruth Gear Head Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 61	i just recorded a drum session today using that Royer. it's the best kick sound i've ever gotten. AMAZING!!!!! i borrowed it from a friend and he got it on ebay for around $900. spend the extra $ and get the Royer! p.s. it also sounds AWSOME on acoustic guitars

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