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Old 12th January 2006   #1
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Did I miss something ?

I just bought SX3 with a Tascam FW1884 control surface and I think I must be missing something... I've only had it for 3 days but...

I loaded all setup discs with the 1884 and SX3. Followed instructions for installation.

Here's one simple thing I couldn't do: I recorded one track of guitar into channel 1 but I can only hear the left side. I tried to assign 2 tracks (VST Connections) from input 1 to channels 1 & 2 and it did record, but I can only hear the left side. How can I record a mono signal into 2 tracks and hear both ?

In the Roland VS2480, all I did was assign 2 chanels from the input mixer, ex. input one mono to channels 1 & 2. Play it back and I had 2 channels of guitar which I then panned. I couldn't do that today with the SX3. I know there's a way..

Also, none of the controls in the Tascam FW1884 are interfacing with Cubase. I mean, the leds light up and the trim pots work but the faders, transport controls etc... don't work. From SX3 software to the 1884 they don't work either.

I've tried everything but I don't know what else it could be that I missed.

Anybody knows how to get these 2 to work together ?
I'm sure these are only 2 of many questions I will have while I make this switch.

Thanks for your help...
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Here's one simple thing I couldn't do: I recorded one track of guitar into channel 1 but I can only hear the left side. I tried to assign 2 tracks (VST Connections) from input 1 to channels 1 & 2 and it did record, but I can only hear the left side. How can I record a mono signal into 2 tracks and hear both ?

Thanks for your help...
First... don't. It's pointless and a waste of disk space. Why? Because you can always mult the mono track after you record it if you want a second copy. No reason to record two identical parts to disk at the same time from a mono source. If you want two, create a mono group (not a send), send the guitar to it (not assign, send as if it were a FX bus), and pan them as you like... same thing without using 30+mb of disk space for a second recorded copy. The reason to use a group is because (at least in SX2) FX busses can't "send" and groups can, if you want to *send* that copy to an effect. SX3 may be different. I hardly ever use FX busses... I just use group busses as FX busses, more flexible.

Secondly... If you recorded a mono signal onto a track and can only hear one side most likely you've recorded a mono signal onto a stereo track. Create a mono track and drag the audio over to it. Or change the pan mode and swing that left side over to the middle. The first option would be the best option.

Third... Don't use the VST connections to assign tracks during recording. That screen is the generally used to setup I/O and mostly left alone. That screen is for setting up what I/O is available to the application when you're working. For instance, if you mix in the daw you may only use a single stereo out so turn the rest off, unless some are used for effects sends to outboard. You may turn on 8-16-24 inputs or whatever you need for tracking.

If you only have two inputs create a stereo input and two mono inputs in the connection screen and you're all set. I never use the left or right side of a stereo connection to record a mono source. I use a mono connection.

Once your "connections" are setup you then choose what input you want to record from directly from the the track. When you create your working "connections", create some mono inputs and some stereo inputs and use the right ones during recording. I use 24 mono inputs mostly with just a couple of stereo inputs, it's less confusing for me. I use the stereo inputs when I want my stereo tracks (piano?) on a single track instead of two.

If you're a PT convert use all mono inputs and mono tracks. It'll be more familiar.

Hope that helps.

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Hi Lawrence...

Thank you so much for your reply. I am wrapping it up for the night but I will try and follow your post carefully and experiment tomorrow. I'm coming from a Roland VS2480 to the SX3 so there's been a bit of a learning curve.

I've finally sorted out the conections between the FW1884 and the SX3, they're finally communicating so that's one thing less to worry about.

I'm still trying to figure out why I can't drag the "mixer" window over to the other monitor. I have dual monitor setup... I can drag almost anything to the second monitor except the mixer window which is why I got the second monitor to begin with. If you know the answer to this I will build you a statue...

You have been very helpful and I will keep in touch..

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Hi Lawrence...

I'm still trying to figure out why I can't drag the "mixer" window over to the other monitor. I have dual monitor setup... I can drag almost anything to the second monitor except the mixer window which is why I got the second monitor to begin with. If you know the answer to this I will build you a statue...

You have been very helpful and I will keep in touch..

Thanks, Peace
IF... you can drag the SX application back and forth between the two monitors... where you can stop halfway and see a little bit of it in both monitors like it's one big monitor... then ...

...I'll take a guess and say that the mixer window in SX is a child window. What I mean by that is it may not go outside of the SX application parent window, it may be (I think it is) a child window just like the project windows. Not looking at SX now so I'm not sure but I think most windows in SX stay inside the main workspace. Unless that workspace is stretched across both monitors you won't see it's child windows in both monitors since they can't go outside of the application workspace.

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Note: I think some plugin windows can go outside of the application parent window, not sure though. I'd have to try it to see.
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If that's the case you'll have to maximize or resize SX's main application window (not the current project window, the top program window that comes up on launch) across both monitors, resize the currently open project window (tracks) into one monitor and then move the mixer over so that's it's in the second monitor. It will all still be inside of the SX application main parent window's workspace which is stretched across both monitors.

I think that will do it. I want my statue bronzed.

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Why the hell didn't I think of that ??? Now I feel like a dumbass....

I owe you one Lawrence, that was the only way it was going to work and it did !
Who would've thought....

I am back in the studio and I will try to follow yesterday's post about assigning tracks. I think I went to the wrong place to do that...

I will follow your instructions right now and will be in touch...

Peace and thanks a million for your help !
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No problem, you're not a dumbass at all. You're just learning a new setup, it may take awhile. Don't be so hard on yourself.

What hardware are you using with SX? How many I/O? I can help you get the connections screen setup.

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Hi Lawrence...

This is what I've been trying to do just to get the feel for it, I have a Tascam FW1884 as the mixer/control surface. It has a ton of I/O digital & analog.

Guitar into Direct Box, XLR outs to 737sp out to Eventide H8000, ADAT out to ADAT in FW1884. Trying to record a direct wet signal...

Now... do I have to set the VST Connections in the SX3 to ADAT. When I click on the Input window of the VST Connections it shows me all the outputs of the FW1884. Then...how do I assign the guitar signal to 2 channels if its a stereo panner coming out of the Eventide which requires 2 tracks at the same time. In this case, it wouldn't be identical and I would have to use 2 tracks right... I mean, I couldn't copy a mono signal in this case.

I clicked on top of the channel mixer input window and it showed me all mono connections, I tried to link the channels but nothing happened.

I know I'm doing something wrong but I can't figure it out... It seems a bit complicated to do what should be a simple task or maybe I'm so used to my other setup that I can't imagine anything different...

Sorry, I need your help again, but next time you're in Florida I will buy you a few rounds... Hopefully by then all this will be in the past and I can laugh about it !

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Not familiar with the Tascam unit so I can't be much help here. Maybe someone else who owns that unit could chime in.

Sorry.

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Hi Lawrence..

Regardless of my interface, how do you assign inputs to different channels into the SX3 from any interface... ? As in my example in the last post for stereo panned guitars, ADAT coming in to a pair of channels ?

What's the easiest way ?
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