Best low end reverb?

[PeteGJ]

I've just bought a Redline reverb and although it's okay I'm still not happy. How much will I have to pay to get a plugin that sounds like it might be a half-decent metal box in a rack? Is there anything under £500?

[radiospace]

Waves Renaissance Reverb in the Renaissance Maxx bundle is pretty nice. For £430 you also get a pretty good compressor, eq, a very good de-esser, etc.

For a bit more money, buy a UAD-2 solo card and the EMT-250 plug-in, which sounds amazing. (Or for a more vintage sound, get the EMT-140).

For a similar price to the UAD solution (i.e. maybe £550) Lexicon LXP. (This I don't own but might be my first choice for versatility, etc.)

You might find demoes for the Waves and Lexicon plug-ins. I'm sure there are good cheaper alternatives, those are just what come to mind.

[12ax7]

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Hmmm...

Do you want a "low-end" reverb that "sounds high-end"?

...Or do you want a really groovy-sounding low-end reverb?

Here's my favorite grungeverb:



The infamous Tapco 4400 Spring Reverb!

(Pure schlocky spring-fed verby goodness!)
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[SWAN808]

Audio damage Eos - best plugin deal ever. Also new Valhalla Shimmer - both $50.

Also - 2CAudio Aether is a fantastic deal in native plugin land - rivals hardware IMO but heavy CPU for the better quality.

In terms of hardware the best deal is the Behringer V-Verb Pro which is genuinely good but they are temperamental...

Other than that there is the Kurzweil Rumour - bit more expensive.

[Slikjmuzik]

I find the UAD Dreamverb and Plate 140's to be darn usable.

[Lazarus Long]

BREVERB. Not the best for really 'naked' reverbs (tails can get a little grainy on some algorithms) BUT in the context of a mix, it sits wonderfully, just like you would expect from something like a Lexicon. Definitely one of my favorite plugin reverbs and it happens to be cheap.

[12ax7]

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...Oh, yeah.

(I almost forgot.)

Here's a freebie plug I've found that's better than I thought it would have been:

Freeverb Too
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[Tryp]

Believe it or not there's a lot of D-Verb'ing going on in "high-end" artists such as Eminem and Justin Bieber......

[Louis Richner]

I’d rather not call them artists, but publicity stunts : P

True artists are people with the talent to sing, play instruments, compose, etc; and take all that dedication and passion to the limit!

[api2500]

Check out Poor Plate. Its Free.
(( vacuumsound )).

Or CSR.
CSR - Classik Studio Reverb.

[Andreas E Larsen]

Originally Posted by api2500

Check out Poor Plate. Its Free.
(( vacuumsound )).

Or CSR.
CSR - Classik Studio Reverb.

Yo how does the csr hold up to the lex plugs?

[api2500]

Originally Posted by Andreas E Larsen

Yo how does the csr hold up to the lex plugs?

The CSR was my go to Reverb before I bought the Lexicon. But honestly? Nothing comes close.

The CSR is very good though. Really flexible and a really nice sound that is comfortable in the mix.

I do still use the CSR sometimes.

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by Andreas E Larsen

Yo how does the csr hold up to the lex plugs?

very poorly. honestly I dont know why people recommend plugs like CSR and Breverb when there are things like Aether and Eos out there...

[Peter Z]

Hi Pete!

I didn't like CSR very much. I prefered Wizoo W2 (not available any more) or in some cases the UAD Plate.

I usually use PCM70, R880 and Bricasti M7 and still Wizoo but never CSR.

Now i downloaded the demo from Relab, the LX480 and that one seems to make me really happy. I think it costs about 200,- USD and i will buy it.

I never used the PCM bundle so i cannot tell.

Hope that helps a little.

Peter

I forgot - i have a V-Verb also and use it for monitoring. It's really good!!!! I like especially the gold plate.

[waxx]

you can also use the free SIR 1 impulse reverb, and loot the internet for free impulses (there are lots of good arround for free if you search). This will probally the best reverb ITB that you can find for no money... UAD verbs are also good, just like (more expensive but worthwhile) Altiverb (also an impulse reverb) or Lexicon native bunlde.

Hardwarewise, the TC 350 is rather good, just like old alesis midiverbs and quadraverb, the Boss SX700 or a Yamaha SPX 900. A cheap lexicon is also ok, but a very cheap sounding lex...

[12ax7]

Originally Posted by waxx

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Yamaha SPX 900.

Surprisingly good box to keep around.

I never use it for the main reverb in a mix, but it does wonders to add a splash of depth to the main verb on one or two instruments.

Come to think of it, alot of cheap verb-boxes work well that way, with each one being almost inaudible on its own (but when you kill it, you get the feeling that something's "missing").

...And the 900 is also useful for some of its other grungier effects

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by PeteGJ

I've just bought a Redline reverb and although it's okay I'm still not happy. How much will I have to pay to get a plugin that sounds like it might be a half-decent metal box in a rack? Is there anything under £500?

Why dont you just buy a good used hardware box? You can get amazing stuff for under $300usd. I own racks of them, really love them. That would solve your issue, very few plugins are even listenable.

[Flying_Dutchman]

Reverberate with True M7 impulse respones
Eos/Valhalla
i did stop using my UAD Plates

both together under 150$ and serious tools imo

[PeteGJ]

Wow. Thanks. Spoilt for choice. What worries me is the comment that very few plugins are even listenable. My ears are probably less discerning, but it worries me that I might end up agreeing. I was quite surprised the Redline wasn't better. Still, I'm not aiming too high. For convenience I want to stay itb so will be sticking to plugins for now. And yes, to whoever asked, I was dreaming of a low-end reverb that sounds high-end. Idiotic really.

My first idea is to try out AudioDamage Eos & Valhalla Shimmer. If I'm still not happy I'll check out some other of these recommendations. Many thanks.

Anyone else want to comment on the Redline? My experience is that it fills up the mix with noise and not space. On the first three trial mixes I tried it out on I used it for ambience and once everything sounded about right I tried turning off. Suddenly the mix sounded much better. I've never had this experience with even the cheapest hardware reverb. But maybe I wasn't doing it justice.

[loopy]

For hardware and cheap, I like the Lexicon AleX which I have used a lot. Sounds decent to me, especially at the price.

[12ax7]

Originally Posted by loopy

For hardware and cheap, I like the Lexicon AleX

[dream]

Rverb.

[Larry Mal]

Why has no one asked what kind of reverb the OP is looking for? Plate, spring, convolution... one reverb is not enough for me.

[Dean Roddey]

Pick up a used Behringer V-Verb. If you search around you'll find that, by whatever chance, Behringer nailed one in this case, and you can pick them up used really cheap. You have to treat them well, since they aren't the most physically robust devices ever created, but otherwise it's a killer deal. Use it through the digital I/O to bypass the Behringer D/A and A/D and just get the reverb. I think mine cost $160 or something like that, and it was brand new in the box.

[satissounds]

Originally Posted by Dean Roddey

Pick up a used Behringer V-Verb. If you search around you'll find that, by whatever chance, Behringer nailed one in this case, and you can pick them up used really cheap. You have to treat them well, since they aren't the most physically robust devices ever created, but otherwise it's a killer deal. Use it through the digital I/O to bypass the Behringer D/A and A/D and just get the reverb. I think mine cost $160 or something like that, and it was brand new in the box.

I second the Behringer V-Verb. I got a brand new one recently still packed in its original box. Excellent reverb to back up my Lexicon MPX-1. Hope to add a TC Electronic M4000 in the future to complete my outboard reverb.

[mattg082]

I've used the lexicon plug a good bit and like it...I always use the breverb though for my verbs. I dunno it's just simple and effective for me when it comes to my plate verbs. Anyone else using breverb? I know Lexicon is talked about like it's king but Breverb just works well for me and it's simple to get what I want. I"m guessing it not as hungry on the processing power as the Lexicon stuff. So given a choice would you guys use the Breverb plugin or the Lexicon plugin?

[radlid]

Originally Posted by api2500

The CSR was my go to Reverb before I bought the Lexicon. But honestly? Nothing comes close.

The CSR is very good though. Really flexible and a really nice sound that is comfortable in the mix.

I do still use the CSR sometimes.

I like the IK CSR Plate reverb a lot. Use it all the time.

[TheRealRoach]

Sony Oxford (Sonnox) Reverb is a very powerful vst for the price.

If you actually want funky low-end verbs then I would buy at least a couple hardware spring reverb racks. Someone already mentioned the Tapco 4400, but there are lots of fun and cool sounding analog hardware verbs for $100-ish bucks.

[Mark Kaufman]

Best for the money? Free convolution reverb player like SIR with the free impulses from Bricasti.

[D K]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

very poorly. honestly I dont know why people recommend plugs like CSR and Breverb when there are things like Aether and Eos out there...

I am always intrigued when I hear this...no right or wrong but I have Reverberate, EOS, UAD Plates and Verbs, Pristine Space in plugs, Hardware I have Rumor and V-Verb..

I have heard Aether and while it sounds good I just dont see how people reccomend it that much over CSR - To me CSR may not be the best the verb around but highly usable and flexible- especially the Plates..


Now EOS is a diferent story as I think it blows Aether and CSR away in a mix situation.

I think CSR is suffering from the "emperors new clothes" thing... in a typical mix I dont think it's near as bad as it is made out to seem around here... I mean 3-4 years ago this was a major player in the algo verb market now all of the sudden .. it sucks??

I understand it is all opinion and subjective..just seems a bit odd to me

not arguing ...