List Here - All Lunchbox Modules In API 500 Series Format

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by pan60

i am not saying it is bad.
i am saying just saying the majority of engineers i have spoken with have discussed in detail some of the API lunchbox power supplies issues, the main reason being noise.
and from having had both in my hands, i prefer say the BA as it is just a more solid better built box, in my opinion.

The BAE 6 space is a nice unit. I have one here. But, in use I don't feel it's any better than the API lunchbox I have here as well. Noise has never been an issue for me with either, and it wasn't until the germ came along that the API suddenly had a "noise issue".

[screamingcatfish]

can yo run a bae 6 space rack and the 11 space bae psu powering 1 elixir,1 potion,1 essence and tonic without fail or do i need to get a bunch of revolvers which seem like the only rack deal that doesn't have any issues.........i vote for revolver
what's the point of vpr alliance if you can't load a lunchbox with potions without fail?? seems goofy

[gm5k]

Originally Posted by screamingcatfish

can yo run a bae 6 space rack and the 11 space bae psu powering 1 elixir,1 potion,1 essence and tonic without fail or do i need to get a bunch of revolvers which seem like the only rack deal that doesn't have any issues.........i vote for revolver
what's the point of vpr alliance if you can't load a lunchbox with potions without fail?? seems goofy

a BAE PSU should be able to handle those units fine. i have to say though, the way you worded your question confuses me a bit.

[pan60]

i have no issues at all with API!!!!!!
i love the 500 format and i am very passionate about it.
i go way out of my way to promote this format.
if as a customer individuals are only going to be buying Pres, EQs, Comps, or what ever, that fall within the VPR Alliance specks then API makes a very, very, good professional, and useful tool, and i have no issues with it what so ever.
but if people are planning on getting into some of the more power hungry units and particularly units that do not fall in line with the VPR Alliance then i do not feel the API lunchbox is the way to go.
their are better choices.

[roger]

good to hear that clarification pan60! now i agree with you!

[pan60]

Originally Posted by roger

rediculous post pan60 - dissing the lunchbox out of the blue!........grown tired of helping pimp a-designs stuff and moved onto power-supplies/500 frames have we??!!!.........funny! --------------------if manufacturers want in on the 500 format they need to make em fit/comply with the format power supplies etc (what is this whole 'allience' thing for anyway?)......if they don't play nicely with the 'standard' frames then it is obvious they are jumping on the 500 gravy train with products that should perhaps stay as/be racked with specific power supplies...........all of a sudden a coupla units have appeared that don't play nice and then everyone is up in arms about the api powersupply............BAH!

i really recent being accused of pimping anything!!!!!!
i am on no ones pay roll!!!!!!!!!!
i recommend what i like, and what i use, rather that be A-Designs, Brent Averill, buzz audio, Great River, LaChapell Audio, OSA, Shadow Hills, Speck, or what ever.
i have recommended, and will continue to recommend, each and every one of these companies products when i feel it appropriate for a preticular aplication.

[pan60]

Originally Posted by roger

good to hear that clarification pan60! now i agree with you!

thank you very, very much, as i was deeply hurt my you comment.
i only mentioned my thoughts on other units because of the unit in question, i should have been more clear.
please, my apologies as well!

[Aearth]

API lunch box was made for API modules, it's that simple. If others want to fit in the box and use the power supplied........go for it. If not they can build their own which some are now doing.

nIC

[Tim Farrant]

I do think that to say "any rack with an internal power supply will not work" is a bit of a generalisation. I would hazard a guess that the new Purple rack is going to be well designed, although I still don't see how they have managed to fit a linear supply in such a small space - must be a very flat toroidal transformer, and I wonder about it's proximity to the module in slot 10?

[Aearth]

Originally Posted by pegleg

If that's the case, then what on EARTH is the point of making them "500 series" modules? If they don't all "play nice" together, if there are compatibility issues, PSU issues, noise issues...

Then just make stand-alone preamps that work properly!

We have enough crap that is "incompatible" in the world without adding more!

1. For portabilty, small and light. You carry a rack of 6 in one hand.
2. Exchanging module types eg. pres, eqs, comps variations.
3. Expandability, buy 2 now and buy more later. Have you noticed that rack pres seem to be cheaper since the modules have hit the scene in a big way.

Again API made the small Lunch Box for their modules first up, then the others followed. API modules have been around for a long time and they really don't make alot of money selling a rack power supply. I'm really not making this up, it's a fact. Maybe later API may beef up the juice on their powered racks...who knows, phone them up and complain to them.

nIC

[Aearth]

Hey Pegleg

I think we are agreeing on the same issue here.


nIC

[Marjan]

Originally Posted by Mark Warren

SO MANY NEW MODULES AND UPDATES!!!

Lost track of this thread for a bit, and I know the front page needs to be brought up to date. If y'all could lend a quick hand - as there's lots of info afoot, would someone (or multiple someones) be so kind as to list here, by manufacturer, any new modules (and related pieces like racks/mixers) that are NOT on the 1st page of this thread?

I don't want to miss anything...

Then in a few days I'll go in and format it all nice with the proper links on the front page.

THANKS!!

Mark, come back and do what ya gora do...

Now there's also AL.SO

[Shaolin]

Great thread. But reading through I got increasingly concerned by the compatibility issue. There are lots of juicy modules out there. Does anyone have power ratings on these? Not everything is running at VPR alliance rates of 50-60 mA. (I'm not complaining, just observing.)

I think power consumption info would be a very useful addition to this thread , especially for those of us just getting into the format and worrying about overloading our lunchboxes as we build our collection. We've only got 360 mA to play with in the API format, after all.

Oh and any other weird compatibility issues like the germ 500 would be useful too.

thanks

[NathanEldred]

Here is a new module...

This is the new Atlas Pro Audio Juggernaut 500 series preamp. The design is a colaboration between Tim Farrant and myself.
It is still in the final stages of beta and should be out early Spring time of '08.

• Class A & discrete electronics
• Switchable custom input transformers (iron or nickel), short auto mute when switching between the two
• Custom output transformer
• Boost - Low gain or high gain settings (eliminates the need for input pad, which would affect the sound adversly)
• Detented gain potentiometer made by Alps (approx 1db increments)
• Detented/variable impedance (300 ohms to 10,000 ohms) on mic preamp
• Instrument input
• Heavy duty fluted aluminum knobs
• Mute button
• Most important - buttons glow when activated (still need input on this, we're deciding between green, blue, or red or some combo of)
• +THD is pad on output to drive it a bit

[Shaolin]

V nice design! Is it the first with both switchable input trannies and selectable impedance in the 500 series? I think maybe. And dare I ask, is it a neve/api emulation or an original sound?

Oh and for what it's worth I vote blue.

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by Shaolin

V nice design! Is it the first with both switchable input trannies and selectable impedance in the 500 series? I think maybe.

I think so with both simulataneously...there is another preamp with switchable transformers, but those are on the output, ours switch on the input.

And dare I ask, is it a neve/api emulation or an original sound?

Definitely not an API emulation. The design itself is closer to the way a Neve works, but it's not a clone by any means as it's an all original from scratch design. The different inputs are intended to give different colors and frequency response.

Oh and for what it's worth I vote blue.

Thank you. I think we are going to do mostly blue (clip is red), with a few green lights to differentiate the functions.

[Shaolin]

This design looks like its going to be ultra versatile. I'm already excited. I think its great that you're not doing a clone as we've got those - BAE, Avedis etc.

Let's hope not too many of us start comparing it to purple biz and shadow hills mono gama even before we've heard it...

I think the blue will look very classy so great!

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by Shaolin

Let's hope not too many of us start comparing it to purple biz and shadow hills mono gama even before we've heard it...

I already know it's different than both of those.

[riffster]

Saw this the other day on your site. The front graphic layout is nice - slick location for the logo. Love the mute. So what's the ballpark cost of this thing?

[NathanEldred]

We're still waiting to nail down pricing but aren't able to get it exact until the final production starts. It will be more than some 500 series preamps, and less than some...and I'm pretty sure there will be a Gearslutz and 3db introductory pricing.

[Lerxst]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

We're still waiting to nail down pricing but aren't able to get it exact until the final production starts. It will be more than some 500 series preamps, and less than some...and I'm pretty sure there will be a Gearslutz and 3db introductory pricing.

So can you tell me more about your module? What are the specs - I mean what current does it draw? Will it work in my API 10 slot and play nicely?

Will it void my API warranty if I put it in the rack? (I won't ask about the VPR alliance)

~Lerxst

[crimelab]

Check out JLM Audio
JLM AUDIO in Brisbane Australia

His New 500 Series Modules are amazing. TG Pres. Pultec Eq's and His Lunch Box has a built in Summing Mixer (wich when you see what it can do is amazing!)

[peterc]

Hi all

A new 500 series mic pre with a different slant......

Check it out here:

Bizzar Audio 'Mint Julep' 500 series mic preamp

Peter

[jonaknt]

a Chandler 500 Series TG EMI style preamp?

I love the sound of the TG2 and the TG Channel's EQ section and I'm pretty much a 500 series fiend.

They'd be like a dream come true for me.

Wade?

[gm5k]

Originally Posted by jonaknt

a Chandler 500 Series TG EMI style preamp?

JLM has a TG style preamp in the 500 series.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...s-modules.html

check out post #27.

[jonaknt]

Originally Posted by gm5k

JLM has a TG style preamp in the 500 series.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...s-modules.html

check out post #27.

Niceee. I'll check it out.

[gm5k]

Originally Posted by jonaknt

Niceee. I'll check it out.

i can vouch for the quality of the JLM stuff. Jens at Eisen made me some preamps using the JLM 99v opamp and theyre absolutely stellar.

[jonaknt]

[QUOTE=gm5k;1822752]i can vouch for the quality of the JLM stuff. QUOTE]

Well I'm sure the quality is top notch, no doubt.

But, I'd still like to see something like this from Chandler.

Hope that this doesn't come across the wrong way. I'm not trying to sound snobby.

[pan60]

i hope we see more chandler gear in the 500 format as well:)~
i think we will

[pan60]

Originally Posted by gm5k

JLM has a TG style preamp in the 500 series.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...s-modules.html

check out post #27.

i should be getting some JLM gear in to review here before much longer