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30th August 2010
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Time to grow: patchbay advice

Alrighty friends! I need your help!

I want to buy one or two patchbays for my home studio that will give me decent room to grow. I don't mind wiring things myself but I'd like to buy one already wired if I can. I'd also prefer non-TT for price but I think the I/O I have might be pushing it for a TRS bay..

Here's the I/O!
- 12ch XLR snake (from tracking->control room)

Pres:
- FMR RNP (2ch)
- GAP Pre73 (1ch)
- Digimax (8ch)

Outboard:
- FMR RNC (2ch)
- dbx 160x (1ch)

Other:
- 003 Rack (don't use the pres, just line-ins/ADAT/SPDIF/outs)
- Rosetta 800 (everything will go through this bad boy ideally)

Headphone amp:
- Furman HDS-6 (4 mono/1 stereo in, CAT5 out to headphone units)

I'm also buying an API 3124+ and another 2ch pre to connect S/PDIF to my 003 in the near future so I'd like to go ahead and plan for those.

I understand the general concept of bays (outs over ins, normal/half/non) but what's the most efficient way from those of you that have the experience to set this up? My primary uses will be tracking (snake->pre->outboard->rosetta->003 with headphones somewhere in there) and mixing others' tracks (003->rosetta->outboard->003?)

So there you have it. I'd like to get this right the first time, workflow in the studio is a BIG importance for me and I'd like to keep things as smooth as possible.

Thanks to anyone who reads this!
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Setting up a patchbay has been a great workflow for me in making things a lot more convenient.

What I do (it will come down to preference)...The breakdown... I have a 48 input / 48 output patchbay TT96.

Outputs: 1 - 16 (preamp outputs), 17 - 32 (lynx outputs), 33 - 48 (fx outputs)
Inputs: 1 - 16 (lynx inputs), 17 - 24 (dangerous st inputs), 25 - 32 (furman headphone), 33 - 48 (fx inputs)

1.) I run my snake hardwire to the preamps
2.) I then run my preamps the outputs to the patchbay and are normalled to the lynx aurora 16 (16 preamps top row/16 inputs bottom row)

3.) I run my lynx 16 outputs to the top row and have my furman hds-6 to run to 9 - 16 on the lynx bottom row of the patchbay (inputs).
4.) I have my dangerous monitor st run to the 1 - 8 of the lynx on the bottom row of the patch.

5.) I then run all my FX/Comps/EQ's to another 16 channels left over all of them are denormalled


Hopefully that helps get you started.
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Run your snake hardwire to the preamps you will have 17 preamps after the upgrade.

For DSUB purposes (8 per cable is efficient) so the 17th will throw it off for me, but it can easily be done, I just like working in tandem with things of 8 (I left out the 17th preamps and assume you instead purchase a nice 1 channel preamps! ;-\)

Outputs: 1 - 16 (Preamps outputs), 17 - 24 (003 Rack outputs), 25 - 32 (Rosetta 800 outputs), 33 - 48 (FX/Comps/Etc) --> denormal those
Inputs: 1 - 8 (003 Rack inputs), 9 - 16 (Rosetta 800 inputs), 17 - 24 (furman headphone), 25 - 32 (leave it open), 33 - 48 (FX/Comps/Etc) --> denormal those
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This is awesome... I have a lot of the same equipment and am approaching the point of needing a patchbay. Any others care to chime in?

musicguitar, what patchbay did you get where you can change normals? One of the switchcraft ones?
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Star Ground, Telescoping, Balanced to Unbalanced, Ground Flow, Install.

Do a search for the above words. It's been covered many, many, many times. Lots of stuff to read. Get it right BEFORE you buy or solder anything.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the links guys! One question though: how do you handle inserts?
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Thanks for the links guys! One question though: how do you handle inserts?
For unbalanced mixer inserts— TRS Y cable from mixer to normalled top bottom pair of patchbay.
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