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Studer J37

I've been offered a Studer J37 in unknown condition for a small price.

I have no expirience with tape at all, but I'd like to try it as mixdown medium or as a character device.

So naturaly I've tried to learn as much as it is possible about it on the web, but there is really very little about them hear or anywhere on the net. There isn't much more than "it's the 4 track that the beatles had used - well pair of them".


My questions in case it works (or if it is fixable):

1) is it worth having one today?
2) it is pain to keep it running?
3) is maintenance of newer studers less demanding?
4) would you prefer have this old tube one or some later type (why?)


My questions in case it doesn't work:

1) is there demand for parts?



Of course any general opinions, praises, desilusions on J37 are wellcome, I know very little about it, so don't hesitate to talk gearslutty .


BTW I've found manual in english, but it's too big for GS. But I'll try to make it smaller or divide it into more files to fit file quotas here.
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Not very popular machines it seems... no replys no opinions? bump
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76 views, no replys... that's dissapointing
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Bump!

Unfortunately I probably don't know anymore than you do. But I do know the J37 is a highly regarded machine, probably partly do to it's Beatle fame. I would jump on a J37 for "a small price". The unknown condition thing is the part that would scare me.

I would say it would easily be worth having one if you could make use of it. If it is in working condition, I'm sure it'll sound great and would probably attract some clients even. Will it be a pain to keep up and running? It will need some maintenance for sure, like all tape machines, but since I am not too knowledgeable I wouldn't be able to tell you how much work exactly it will be.

Good luck!
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Thanks for a response... maybe it is U47 of the tape machines, but it seems there is so little love here...

so maybe it isn't u47 of the tape machines after all...









The pictures are from actual machine... I don't like the fact it is partialy rusty. The picture of the heads isn't great and it also doesn't add to "100% working" state in my unexperienced eyes...

Inside looks ok --- once the dust is gone...
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Man look at all those tubes in there. Looks awesome. I don't think the J37 is too common these days, might not be too many people around here who have experience with them. The lack of response is kinda weird. Search around on the net some more, seems like you could find someone who could give you some info if you sent them those pics.
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It was the first thing I did, google-gearslutz-psw search and I found very little and scattered information (including the threads that you've posted). But I thought someone likes them (J37s) and wants to share experience... well
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That thing looks awesome. I say go for it!!!

That being said, I know a few people/studios trying to get rid of nice tape machines. They are a huge hassle to upkeep, but it you have the space/time/money to get it going, I bet it will sound amazing.
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Why don't you try to get some infos from here :
Studer - [Technical Support]

I'm sure you could foresee the price needed to reset this lovely babe to a new life…

Anyway, if I was offered such a piece of recording history for cheap, I'll buy it, even if just as a collector… how much is it offered to you ?
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Just watched the recreation of the Sgt Peppers Lonely on BBC, seems like Geoff Emerick is quite happy there with them j37's
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I'll have to find someone local for repairs, shipping 150kg seems insane to me now.

The price is still open for negotiation, so I can't really say.
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I'm sorry I didn't write it sooner... but no, the guys that were offering it to me weren't fast enough to get it, so someone else did. That someone made my life much easier I guess ;-).
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Due to unlikely set of events that particular J37 found it's way to my place. Long and boring story. Most importantly it is here. So far I've only did some basic cleaning and couldn't find a courage to turn it on (and I'm going to wait for some tech check it first most likely). But it looks complete and I wouldn't be surprised if it worked... somehow.



It is definitely not a "low hours" piece, it has some 7700 hours on it's counter and heads look like they do. There is definitely some flat-top brushed away surface on each of them, but none of them are open, so at least something.



Well... now let's wait for list of things that need to be replaced and tech hours... I may end selling it... after seeing that list and total sum.

It is so heavy...

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looks like a very serious monster, but indeed might be a very high maintenance machine. Good luck !
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Well, I spent big part of today carfully cleaning the dust etc from all accesible parts. So far I've found some minor problems, like the hum shield that can't be risen from the front panel (but it works when it is pushed by a finger from below). And (only) one of the fuses seems to be blown. All the mechanical parts related to transport seem to work smoothly fortunatelly.
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[QUOTE=matucha;6466066
She's so heavy...[/QUOTE]

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so, according to GS poster cinealta, the Studer J37 (used on Sgt. Peppers)has 4 tracks on 1 inch tape / 1/4" of audio information per track. (a normal 24track on 2 inch tape has 1/12" per track). the question i have is : what is the next best thing to a Studer J37 (in both the high end and low end categories) ?
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J37@ Abbey Road

I heard one of these at Abbey Road the other day, during an open event. The sound was staggeringly good. Easily the best sound they played all day. I think I've just about got room for one....

Good luck

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Studer J37 four track 1 inch tube recorder (Beatles Sgt. Pepper's)
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Item condition:--
Ended: Mar 04, 2013 16:22:04 PST
Winning bid:US $27,500.00
[ 10 bids ]
Shipping: $800.00 Economy Shipping from outside US
Item location:Roermond, Netherlands
Seller:
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Gee I wonder if buying that deck was smart GT
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Wow, just wow.
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FYI I think the right thumb wheel on the center of the machine (between the transport controls and speed select) is meant to raise the shield. You probably know this already, but in case you didn't...

Good luck!
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I just finished bringing my 2trk OTARI mtr10 to life! I love it! Im using it on an ep thats on 2"24 right now. It does something no other device does to my mixes.

That being said... It was a bear bringing it to life. You will have to learn the way of the jedi as far as technical maintenance goes.

I dont know the studer j37 personally.I chose the deck I got because of its popular and modern and parts can be found and generally low maintenance once it os brought o life. a few things to consider

1. You need a manual with schematics
2. You need more money than you think.
3. You need more time than you think.
4. You need more skill than you think.

But when its done and you learn what you Are doing it KILLS digital.


QUOTE=matucha;5701160]I've been offered a Studer J37 in unknown condition for a small price.

I have no expirience with tape at all, but I'd like to try it as mixdown medium or as a character device.

So naturaly I've tried to learn as much as it is possible about it on the web, but there is really very little about them hear or anywhere on the net. There isn't much more than "it's the 4 track that the beatles had used - well pair of them".


My questions in case it works (or if it is fixable):

1) is it worth having one today?
2) it is pain to keep it running?
3) is maintenance of newer studers less demanding?
4) would you prefer have this old tube one or some later type (why?)


My questions in case it doesn't work:

1) is there demand for parts?



Of course any general opinions, praises, desilusions on J37 are wellcome, I know very little about it, so don't hesitate to talk gearslutty .


BTW I've found manual in english, but it's too big for GS. But I'll try to make it smaller or divide it into more files to fit file quotas here.[/QUOTE]
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All I can say is.....great move acquiring it. If the price was truly low, then to me that is the type of piece you just buy to have.

So if you get it working, great.....if not , store it.

Someday there will be even less of them and you'll always have such a rare piece of musical history.

I'm jealous!
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