Need SDC suggestions. Smooth but not muddy, detailed bass...

wayne mox · 27th November 2005

Everything is in play from the Peluso CEMC6 to the Schoeps and everything in between including vintage stuff like KM84/Gefells.

I need SDC mics that are smooth on top without getting muddy on bottom.

Little to no proximity effect, no smearing of the low frequencies when close miking.

Detailed basses.

Please throw out your suggestions.

warhead · 27th November 2005

Earthworks might be a good fit, but the Avenson STO-2 pair deserves a serious listen.

War

mr.gefell · 27th November 2005

gefell m295

Jim vanBergen · 28th November 2005

Is pattern an issue? For close miking, it usually is if you want no smearing but I suggest omnis:
Earthworks QTC-50; DPA 4006; and Schoeps CMC6/MK2s. All are SUPER accurate. What preamp do you intend to pair with?

Dr Bob · 28th November 2005

I second the recommendations concerning omnis, but in case you need a directional mic, I have had really good luck close miking wiith the cardioid Earthworks mics. I have an older pair, but I understand the current SR 30 is sonically equivalent. In the class I am teaching this semester we did a "how many ways can you mike an acousitic guitar" class with a wide variety of sdc mics (Earthworks, KM 184, KM 140, Schoeps CMC64, Oktava's, and even Shure KSM 141's) and while they all were "good," there was a special quality to the Earthworks pair. The lack of proximity effect up close (they roll off a lot in the lower freqs) gives them a quality other mics don't seem to have. We are used to hearing conventional proximity build up in close miked situations and when it doesn't happen the sound is startling. Not quite the same as omnis either.

The manufacturer claims they just sound more "real" and in our experience on both steel strung and classical guitars that certainly seemed the case. I have also used them as the "inside" pair on piano with great results--an application in which I often reach for omni's.

27th November 2005	#1
wayne mox Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 533 Thread Starter	Need SDC suggestions. Smooth but not muddy, detailed bass... Everything is in play from the Peluso CEMC6 to the Schoeps and everything in between including vintage stuff like KM84/Gefells. I need SDC mics that are smooth on top without getting muddy on bottom. Little to no proximity effect, no smearing of the low frequencies when close miking. Detailed basses. Please throw out your suggestions.

27th November 2005	#2
warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,910	Earthworks might be a good fit, but the Avenson STO-2 pair deserves a serious listen. War __________________ Warren Dent - Owner of: www.ZenProAudio.com Where You Get Gear Now & Zen Email via Gearslutz

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Dr Bob Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Storrs. CT Posts: 80	And if you need cards: Earthworks I second the recommendations concerning omnis, but in case you need a directional mic, I have had really good luck close miking wiith the cardioid Earthworks mics. I have an older pair, but I understand the current SR 30 is sonically equivalent. In the class I am teaching this semester we did a "how many ways can you mike an acousitic guitar" class with a wide variety of sdc mics (Earthworks, KM 184, KM 140, Schoeps CMC64, Oktava's, and even Shure KSM 141's) and while they all were "good," there was a special quality to the Earthworks pair. The lack of proximity effect up close (they roll off a lot in the lower freqs) gives them a quality other mics don't seem to have. We are used to hearing conventional proximity build up in close miked situations and when it doesn't happen the sound is startling. Not quite the same as omnis either. The manufacturer claims they just sound more "real" and in our experience on both steel strung and classical guitars that certainly seemed the case. I have also used them as the "inside" pair on piano with great results--an application in which I often reach for omni's.

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Jim vanBergen Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Friggin' City Posts: 2,562	Is pattern an issue? For close miking, it usually is if you want no smearing but I suggest omnis: Earthworks QTC-50; DPA 4006; and Schoeps CMC6/MK2s. All are SUPER accurate. What preamp do you intend to pair with?