The room the whole room & nothing but the room, modern drum ambience

13th June 2003, 12:10 AM

OK feel free to use this as a general drum room mic & treatment thread.

I am trying to find a way to sell off some gear to raise cash for my new extension and trim down to a basic set up (I am expanding)

So

I have

3 x Distressors
1 x STC-8 stereo compressor (Keep!)
1 x SSL stereo compressor (Keep!)
1 x Joe Meek SC3 (Like SC2 but with digital i/o as extra)
1 x SPL Transvestite Designer

Random thoughts & philosophies:

1) Only weird people like Joe Meek compressors

Joe Meek gear needs to spend 360 days a year away in storage, minimum.

2) There is justification for a 3rd Distressor on drum tracking, two belong on "room". Only college kids believe a Distressor on every close mic, is a good thing..

3) How is my old "Nuke Em" far drum room Distressor crushing technique going to go with using my new SPL Transvestite Designer on OH, Kick & Snare?

4) I should probably sell the Joe Meek and 1 Distressor

5) What to do gear guru's?

Jay Kahrs · 13th June 2003, 05:41 AM

I always liked the Distressor on snare. I'd probably keep the 3rd one, even if it makes it's way onto bass or something. Then again I just cut drums for a 5 song EP with no compression on the room mics. I'll probably squeeze 'em a bit during the mix but the pair of Baby Bottles sounded just great as-is. But, on the previous project I killed the room mics at 6:1 or 8:1 with an RNC. Go figure. Either way I'd probably launch the Meek unless you can't get enough for it.

Tim L · 13th June 2003, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jules
1) Only weird people like Joe Meek compressors Joe Meek gear needs to spend 360 days a year away in storage, minimum.

... I allways new I was weird! Considering I like the 160x as well, I must be totally screwed!...

Beezoboy · 14th June 2003, 01:58 PM

I agree about less compression on drums. I have been tracking my band (with me on drums) and some others lately and I really am enjoying letting more of the room come through. I track in my living room, but with hardwood floors and luck I guess, I am getting some great sounding tracks. Natural sounding, but phat.

I am using a variation of Fletchers 3 drum mic technique. No mics on toms. Double micing kick with an LD out front. LD's for overheads too. Not that you care. . . sorry.

Beez

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5down1up · 14th June 2003, 02:54 PM

i really dig the spl transvetite

i was always to scared or didnt have one at hand during recording . i am probably wrong but i guess its more of a mix tool .
if i would record it than just as an add on track via a split on the desired instruments .
in fact of outboard comps i cant really use mine , too ., during tracking . the low freq needs to be cutted inmho before compression other wise the important frequencies wont get touched ... just what my stupid ears hear . i dont have no outboard cut filters , so i do that with the computer and add my comps after recording .
i love compressed rooms and i love the usual one . if the music is mellow , not much compression required ... maybe as an effect ?

and of course the best thing you can have is a nice sounding room , mine is small

. but i guess every time you hear something you dont have you go ... WOW ... wanna have that , too ...

e
and of course a good drum set with nice heads and cymbals ...

then the only thing thats left ... is someone who can play it .

i love o´briens treatments on rock music

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13th June 2003, 12:10 AM	#1
Jules Guest Posts: n/a	The room the whole room & nothing but the room, modern drum ambience OK feel free to use this as a general drum room mic & treatment thread. I am trying to find a way to sell off some gear to raise cash for my new extension and trim down to a basic set up (I am expanding) So I have 3 x Distressors 1 x STC-8 stereo compressor (Keep!) 1 x SSL stereo compressor (Keep!) 1 x Joe Meek SC3 (Like SC2 but with digital i/o as extra) 1 x SPL Transvestite Designer Random thoughts & philosophies: 1) Only weird people like Joe Meek compressors Joe Meek gear needs to spend 360 days a year away in storage, minimum. 2) There is justification for a 3rd Distressor on drum tracking, two belong on "room". Only college kids believe a Distressor on every close mic, is a good thing.. 3) How is my old "Nuke Em" far drum room Distressor crushing technique going to go with using my new SPL Transvestite Designer on OH, Kick & Snare? 4) I should probably sell the Joe Meek and 1 Distressor 5) What to do gear guru's?

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14th June 2003, 01:58 PM	#4
Beezoboy Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 490	I agree about less compression on drums. I have been tracking my band (with me on drums) and some others lately and I really am enjoying letting more of the room come through. I track in my living room, but with hardwood floors and luck I guess, I am getting some great sounding tracks. Natural sounding, but phat. I am using a variation of Fletchers 3 drum mic technique. No mics on toms. Double micing kick with an LD out front. LD's for overheads too. Not that you care. . . sorry. Beez I

14th June 2003, 02:54 PM	#5
5down1up Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 1,355	i really dig the spl transvetite i was always to scared or didnt have one at hand during recording . i am probably wrong but i guess its more of a mix tool . if i would record it than just as an add on track via a split on the desired instruments . in fact of outboard comps i cant really use mine , too ., during tracking . the low freq needs to be cutted inmho before compression other wise the important frequencies wont get touched ... just what my stupid ears hear . i dont have no outboard cut filters , so i do that with the computer and add my comps after recording . i love compressed rooms and i love the usual one . if the music is mellow , not much compression required ... maybe as an effect ? and of course the best thing you can have is a nice sounding room , mine is small . but i guess every time you hear something you dont have you go ... WOW ... wanna have that , too ... e and of course a good drum set with nice heads and cymbals ... then the only thing thats left ... is someone who can play it . i love o´briens treatments on rock music