Gearslutz.com

All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > So much gear, so little time!


New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12th November 2005   #1
Gear maniac
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 167

Thread Starter
Smile Recorderman overheads

Hi Guys

Ok, I'm recording a punk band in a couple of weeks and am gonna try the 'Recorderman' overhead tecnique. Couple of things I'm still curious about:

Presumably, If I'm Standing in front of the kit, the mic over the drummers right shoulder is my left OH and the mic above the snare is the right OH? (sorry if that seems obvious, wanna get it right!)

How about panning. Using this technique, can I still pan the OH's extreme left and right if I feel like it without cocking up phase and stuff?

Cheers

Mike
mike kable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #2
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,647

YEah you got the OH's correct,

Regarding panning, spread it right out since the mics are so close to each other to begin with it's hard to overkill. No prob regarding phase issues really since you've alligned the kick and snare to both mics as per definition of the technique.

Just a heads up...the shoulder mic will end up lower and further behind the snare mic...IE don't worry your doing fine. Also, since your doing punk make sure you mic the kick and snare - you'll use the kick mic for sure, the snare OTOH...just in case of emergency, or to fade in a sample if you need to.
kats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #3
Gear maniac
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 167

Thread Starter
Smile

Thanks for the help kats thats good news. I'm also planning on stereo room mics (omni) 10 -12 ft in front of the kit. what distance would you suggest I keep between the mics to compliment the 'recorderman' OH's? Also...I usually put a mono 'smash' mic a couple of ft in front of the kit, would this be compatable with said technique?

Thanks

Mike
mike kable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #4
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,647

FOK hell yeah! What I ususally do is put a FOK about 8' in front of the kit and crush it. I position it to get less cymbals and more drums or else the cymbals will get nasty when blending in with the o/h's. I get enough ambience between the o/hs and fok that I hardly use the room mics - especially when you use LDCs for the overheads. I like also using a pair of SDC's as o/hs and get a pretty cool tight punchy sound, albiet drier than LDC's. But blended with the fok it sounds pretty good. It's ususally enough for me - I pan the oh's hard l/r and the fok dead center and violla!

Anyhow, put up as many mics as you like - you don't have to mix them in, but it's good insurance.
kats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #5
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: On the road
Posts: 629

I do the same thing as Kats, one FOK or room up the center squashed along with the quasi Glynn J. technique.
tubehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #6
Lives for gear
 
Drumsound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bloomington Il
Posts: 5,032

For you omni room mics, make an equilateral triangle with the front of the BD.
__________________
Tony
Oxide Lounge Recording
See the Oxide Lounge!
Follow me on TWITTER!

WWJMD?

Come see me on the Tape Op boards!

It's only inches on the reel to reel
Drumsound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2005   #7
Gear maniac
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 167

Thread Starter
Ok, I'm with ya, thanks kats. I'll put up stereo room mics as back up in case I need to supplement the ambience. Thanks for the tip drumsound, thats something I've been overlooking with my room mics.
By the way, any preference on FOK mic?

Awsome guys

Mike
mike kable is offline   Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
recorderman with unmatched mics? sheltersoton So much gear, so little time! 4 31st July 2006 05:16 PM
A recorderman thread... nathanvacha So much gear, so little time! 19 21st July 2006 10:36 PM
that recorderman upside down v with a string thing.... sadworld So much gear, so little time! 9 14th December 2005 11:54 PM
Happy Birthday recorderman! Nutmeg II. The Good News Channel 4 11th March 2005 08:06 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:18 PM.

 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com Limited - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office: 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.