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Old 29th October 2005   #1
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Lead Vocals: Is 2k the new 12k?

Over the past couple years, it seems to me that the preferred "crank-the-sh*t-out-of-it" vocal frequency range is migrating south from 12k toward the midrange, centered around 2k.

Every rock/pop vocal I hear on the radio has this big mid-push.


Could be my horrible horrible car stereo system.

Or should I say car mono system.


No big, just an observation.

Oh, and to make this a GS post: Red-lining a Distressor in opto mode going into an API 560 is good at aping the above sound.
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The biggest secret of all is that 1 k is the next 2k.

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That is one octave better.
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wasn't 1K hip in '97? I tought we where going towards a real nice High Q 3,5kHz, soon?
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I just think it's funny that frequencies can be fads!
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I tought we where going towards a real nice High Q 3,5kHz, soon?
Nah, that swept through Europe circa late 2002 (you should know, given your use of a comma in "3,5kHz").

The next big thing is a simultaneous boost AND cut at 685...with a little love at 18.2k.





But honestly, we all know that the real professionals always run lead vox through four different EQ's all set flat.

And an expander.
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(you should know, given your use of a comma in "3,5kHz").
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What's the frequency, Kenneth?
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Oh, and to make this a GS post: Red-lining a Distressor in opto mode going into an API 560 is good at aping the above sound.


I suspect that is what you're hearing. It's not aping the thing, it is the thing.
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Why 2K?

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Why 2K?
Why not?



Of all the frequencies I hate the worst... no, 1.6K is the worst. But 2K is almost as worse.

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My personal 2k is 5k-7k. The pain zone.
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Why not?



Of all the frequencies I hate the worst... no, 1.6K is the worst. But 2K is almost as worse.

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Sorry, I should have put one of these up:

it was a silly play on words...Y2k...

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2k or not 2k, THAT is the question!
Can't believe I actually typed that!
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The day that Mary Kay becomes the next 12k is the day I hang up the cables...

GAAK!! Flicking thru MTV I see that boat's already sailed.



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i thought that " it " was the new " that"
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Midrange

Some famous pro audio icon once said that it's all about the midrange. I now believe that's true. I used to think everything from 1-3.5k was an evil region only meant for subtractive eq. Now I'm realizing that at times a little boost in that area can be a good thing. Also, definitely it's become very trendy to boost around 2k.

Due to headphone abuse and master blaster car stereos set to 11, most people probably can't hear much above 2k anyway LOL
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Why 2K?

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'cause 12k is so last year.
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Don't make me quote from South Park mmmmmmmm-k
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Its interesting u mentioned that u could get the new sound by running a distressor, basically in overdriven optical mode, into an API. I think now that recording mediums have become so "prsitine" and regulated, people like to hear the sound of older gear (more mids, more tubes, more T.H.D., esp. at 1-4 khz). It gives that "ripping through the surface of your consiousness" sound. Or maybe I'm just another zombie......
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