29th October 2005
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Lead Vocals: Is 2k the new 12k?
Over the past couple years, it seems to me that the preferred "crank-the-sh*t-out-of-it" vocal frequency range is migrating south from 12k toward the midrange, centered around 2k.
Every rock/pop vocal I hear on the radio has this big mid-push.
Could be my horrible horrible car stereo system.
Or should I say car mono system.
No big, just an observation.
Oh, and to make this a GS post: Red-lining a Distressor in opto mode going into an API 560 is good at aping the above sound.
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29th October 2005
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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The biggest secret of all is that 1 k is the next 2k.
-R
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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That is one octave better.
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29th October 2005
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#4 | | Gear addict
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wasn't 1K hip in '97? I tought we where going towards a real nice High Q 3,5kHz, soon?
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29th October 2005
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#5 | | Gear addict
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I just think it's funny that frequencies can be fads!
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29th October 2005
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by borau I tought we where going towards a real nice High Q 3,5kHz, soon? | Nah, that swept through Europe circa late 2002 (you should know, given your use of a comma in "3,5kHz").
The next big thing is a simultaneous boost AND cut at 685...with a little love at 18.2k.
But honestly, we all know that the real professionals always run lead vox through four different EQ's all set flat.
And an expander.
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#7 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by chriscoleman (you should know, given your use of a comma in "3,5kHz"). | lol
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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What's the frequency, Kenneth?
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30th October 2005
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by chriscoleman Oh, and to make this a GS post: Red-lining a Distressor in opto mode going into an API 560 is good at aping the above sound. |
I suspect that is what you're hearing. It's not aping the thing, it is the thing.
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#10 | | Jai guru deva om
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Why 2K?
War
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30th October 2005
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by warhead Why 2K? | Why not?
Of all the frequencies I hate the worst... no, 1.6K is the worst. But 2K is almost as worse.
Steve
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#12 | | Gear Head
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My personal 2k is 5k-7k. The pain zone.
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#13 | | Jai guru deva om
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Originally Posted by squeegybug Why not?
Of all the frequencies I hate the worst... no, 1.6K is the worst. But 2K is almost as worse.
Steve | Sorry, I should have put one of these up:
it was a silly play on words...Y2k...
War
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31st October 2005
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#14 | | Gear maniac
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2k or not 2k, THAT is the question!
Can't believe I actually typed that!
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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The day that Mary Kay becomes the next 12k is the day I hang up the cables...
GAAK!! Flicking thru MTV I see that boat's already sailed.
Sinks into depression....
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#16 | | Gear maniac
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O. K. Already! |
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#17 | | Gear addict
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i thought that " it " was the new " that"
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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| Midrange
Some famous pro audio icon once said that it's all about the midrange. I now believe that's true. I used to think everything from 1-3.5k was an evil region only meant for subtractive eq. Now I'm realizing that at times a little boost in that area can be a good thing. Also, definitely it's become very trendy to boost around 2k.
Due to headphone abuse and master blaster car stereos set to 11, most people probably can't hear much above 2k anyway LOL
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by warhead Why 2K?
War |
'cause 12k is so last year.
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31st October 2005
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#20 | | Gear maniac
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Don't make me quote from South Park mmmmmmmm-k
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1st November 2005
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Its interesting u mentioned that u could get the new sound by running a distressor, basically in overdriven optical mode, into an API. I think now that recording mediums have become so "prsitine" and regulated, people like to hear the sound of older gear (more mids, more tubes, more T.H.D., esp. at 1-4 khz). It gives that "ripping through the surface of your consiousness" sound. Or maybe I'm just another zombie......
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