The rule of 3

Bart-Jan · 27th October 2005

Hello,

I saw a interview today on sound.org with Dave Pensado.
He is talking about the rule of 3rd. Well, I understand the rule in the visual world but in the audio world.....
Can someone shine his or her light on this subject?
BTW, great interview with Dave, go watch it now!!

Thanks,

Bart-Jan

leadvox · 27th October 2005

Might he be speaking of the 3:1 rule? This rule is named for the minimum ratio that will generally give the best results when micing a single source with 2 mics. For example, if one mic is 6" from a source, then any other mic must be at least 18" from the first mic to reduce phase problems.

sleep over jack · 27th October 2005

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Originally Posted by leadvox

Might he be speaking of the 3:1 rule? This rule is named for the minimum ratio that will generally give the best results when micing a single source with 2 mics. For example, if one mic is 6" from a source, then any other mic must be at least 18" from the first mic to reduce phase problems.

unless the two mics are equidistant from the source

BevvyB · 27th October 2005

Hmm

The rule of three maybe that you can only listen to three things at one time

djui5 · 27th October 2005

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Originally Posted by BevvyB

Hmm

The rule of three maybe that you can only listen to three things at one time

I thought it was 5 max? I could be wrong though.

There is another 3:1 rule involving stereo mic'ing. For every 1 Ft back, the mic's must be 3 Ft wide and so on I believe.

Marlowe · 27th October 2005

Bad things always happen in three's.

rickrock305 · 27th October 2005

damn, there are a lot of rules dealing with the number 3!!!

The first one that comes to mind is the one dealing with phase and multi micing something.

2leod · 27th October 2005

I think he's talking about the "3 strikes and you're out!" rule. If you can't get the mic right by the third try, it's a long humiliating walk back to the bench, son. Next batter!

Oldone · 27th October 2005

In art, there is a method for dividing the canvas into 3rds both vertically and horizontally. By orienting your scene to these lines you create somewhat repeatable visual-impacts for the viewer. I am not an artist but took a few classes in college.

Dave is alluding to applying a similar approach to the soundstage i.e regular repeatable methods for building a sonic landscape that you can use to create different emotional impacts from the music.

That's my take.

pan60 · 27th October 2005

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Originally Posted by 2leod

I think he's talking about the "3 strikes and you're out!" rule. If you can't get the mic right by the third try, it's a long humiliating walk back to the bench, son. Next batter!

very true!

warhead · 27th October 2005

Was the 3rd rule maybe...you don't talk about Fight Club?

Oh wait...is that the first rule?

War

Dangerous Dave · 27th October 2005

This is all rubbish

He is obviously talking about the rule that states

"for every one piece of gear you buy, you must now start looking for 3 complimentary pieces of gear to go with it..."

Come on slutz, you know the score!!

JP11 · 27th October 2005

2leod · 28th October 2005

3 rules!

27th October 2005	#1
Bart-Jan Gear Head Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Puttershoek Netherlands Posts: 41 Thread Starter	The rule of 3 Hello, I saw a interview today on sound.org with Dave Pensado. He is talking about the rule of 3rd. Well, I understand the rule in the visual world but in the audio world..... Can someone shine his or her light on this subject? BTW, great interview with Dave, go watch it now!! Thanks, Bart-Jan

27th October 2005	#8
2leod Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: A big Canadian island in the Pacific, but my citizenship is otherworldly... Posts: 936	I think he's talking about the "3 strikes and you're out!" rule. If you can't get the mic right by the third try, it's a long humiliating walk back to the bench, son. Next batter! __________________ Doug

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warhead Jai guru deva om Joined: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,257	Was the 3rd rule maybe...you don't talk about Fight Club? Oh wait...is that the first rule? War __________________ Warren Dent, Owner - ZenPro Audio: Gear Now & Zen

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Dangerous Dave Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2004 Location: UK, North East Posts: 567	This is all rubbish He is obviously talking about the rule that states "for every one piece of gear you buy, you must now start looking for 3 complimentary pieces of gear to go with it..." Come on slutz, you know the score!! __________________ Hey, I started off with nothing and I still have plenty left... http://www.blast-recording.com http://www.myspace.com/blast_recording

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27th October 2005	#2
leadvox Gear nut Joined: Oct 2005 Location: IN Posts: 105	Might he be speaking of the 3:1 rule? This rule is named for the minimum ratio that will generally give the best results when micing a single source with 2 mics. For example, if one mic is 6" from a source, then any other mic must be at least 18" from the first mic to reduce phase problems.

27th October 2005	#4
BevvyB Mindreader Joined: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 2,604	Hmm The rule of three maybe that you can only listen to three things at one time

27th October 2005	#6
Marlowe Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2004 Location: NY Posts: 703	Bad things always happen in three's.

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rickrock305 Gear Guru Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Miami FL Posts: 10,066	damn, there are a lot of rules dealing with the number 3!!! The first one that comes to mind is the one dealing with phase and multi micing something.

27th October 2005	#9
Oldone Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 1,181	In art, there is a method for dividing the canvas into 3rds both vertically and horizontally. By orienting your scene to these lines you create somewhat repeatable visual-impacts for the viewer. I am not an artist but took a few classes in college. Dave is alluding to applying a similar approach to the soundstage i.e regular repeatable methods for building a sonic landscape that you can use to create different emotional impacts from the music. That's my take.

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2leod Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: A big Canadian island in the Pacific, but my citizenship is otherworldly... Posts: 936	3 rules!

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