recording live gigs with a rosetta 200/digi002

[mattg082]

so i got a job offer to record a live gig with my rig. i want to know the best way to go about this as the client said he did not want it going from the board but rather a stereo recording done by overhead. what i have is a apogee rosetta 200 and a lunchbox with a api 512c and great river going to a digi002 with 4 on board pres everything clocked to the rosetta. i have a shure sm 57 and a few more standard shure mics and a few more the client want to use at request. i have expereince with classical and rock performances but not a lot with live gig recordings in stereo other than going through the board but i would think making use of the good pres and rosetta would be ideal expecially if it's a crummy mixer which it will most likely be.

so if i was to go into the sound board if that was decided do i run it straight to the converter or use the pres. or should i maybe run the live mixing board into the digi 002 stock pres and use the rosetta 200 and good pres for overhead and just mix it from there? i have an idea but i want to get some advice from you guys.

the client just told me it will be 3 synths, drum machines, live drums and experimental so i kind of get maybe why he wants to do a nice stereo recording since it's probably one of those jam band off the cuff things he want to capture for himself to have on a nice cd. i want to make this work and he was asking me about mastering and i'm pretty good on the mixing part and can mix something great for this guy i just need to get the source as best as i can and it's all good from there.

[rcb4t2]

I would try to get 2 overheads on the live drums, and get a individual feed from each synth / drum machine at the board, maybe a kick drum mic too - that would give you some good options for mixdown. Or you could mic from the front of the stage or in front of the sound board XY or ORTF setup and hope for the best in terms of balance between instruments and /or blend them with direct instruments for some ambience / live feel - I'm in NO too, PM me if you need a hand or to rent some gear or something -

To answer you other question, if you record from the board you can go direct out straight to your converter, as the signal should be line level.

good luck

[leaper]

Hi,
First thing to do would be to contact the venue. Speak with their scheduled sound engineer and let him know your plans and find out the venue's possibilities, what board they have, etc.
Live recording is like playing bingo.. you just never know if it was worth the effort until after the event.
For example, the plan to make a great stereo recording of the show could go great, but who knows? Maybe the acoustics of the place are problematic, maybe there is no practical place to hang mics, maybe some drunk couple shout over one mic channel about how the band sucks, etc
So with this in mind it's useful to cover your ass. This would mean supplementing the acoustic stereo recording with a sensible blend of direct instruments.
You could perhaps try to get the best quality stereo recording using a good stereo pre into the Rosetta which could go spdif into the 002.
If the venue's mixer is up to it, you could make 3 useful submixes of direct stuff and a stereo drum sub that could be routed from mixer to the 002 analogue ins.
The practicalities you can work out for yourself after talking with the venue. Whether you use your mics or the venue's, whether you dare interface with their mixer will become clear. Some venues have all mic channels split from the get go.
So.. main piece of advice: Announce your coming and be prepared for anything.

[mattg082]

oh as a touring musician i know too much about the dangers of a live show and the unexpected! there is some time to before the live event like 2 and a haf months.

see the guy was asking me about giving me some old tracks to remix through my rig and him redo, vocals and guitar. in this case i have a project studio but with nice gear and a vocal booth in the apartment. i was thinking getting this guy in first to do that in a more controlled enviroment so i can give him the wow factor of how much nicer things can be on the other side with good gear and proper skill. i do this for a living also for my university as well as at home for extra bones.

see i just got my new setup with the rosetta and lunchbox 2 months ago and i need to figure out pricing with the better equipment now. i was thinking telling the guy to come in with the old songs, i load them he does his overdub and vocals and charge $35 an hour w/th minimum of two hours and a fee for any hardcore mixing mastering depending on how many hours he puts in and this guy is coming from very cheap audio quality. i have an apartment studio, everything but no live drums and a few rooms i made for this stuff to work and have tested it

so maybe i should get him in the studio get his trust and show him i'm good and worth the money... take the chance for the live gig and do my research before. i really need this money right now to offset my money i just put in my studio and it would be great!

KEEP THE INFO COMING!

[leaper]

Go for it!
One happy customer will return and probably net you another potential client. Your evil empire will soon grow...muwahahahahaha...thumbsup