Originally posted by picksail
Oh Blimey... I hate getting involved in these things... I'm piggy in the middle because of my strong ties still with Neve and my pals there versus some very nice recreations like the BA models.
Anyway... they have a point, albeit a slightly mute one.
Yes, Carnhill may insinuate otherwise but I'm certain that they did NOT make the original 1166 and 2567 output transformers (that was Marinair Radar). The versions they make now are educated copies, much as the other transformer suppliers would make.
Yes, when AMS-Neve tried one of their 1166's for their 1073 and 1084, it did not meet their EM specs.
I would add that Neve, as a company, supplied EM specification sheets to transformer manufacturers to build the transformers. Thus, the design belongs to Neve, not the transformer manufacturer. So, when the transformer manufacturer makes a bundle selling Neve designed transformers to all and sundry, you can work out for yourselves the moral issues involved. IMHO I think Neve should have acted sooner.
Anyway, as far as I know, the O/P transformers supplied to the OEMs is not the same as used in the AMS-Neve 1073/84.
Whether you would notice the difference is a very subjective matter, as it involves high signal levels at low frequencies. The OEM has distortion in double figures, the AMS-Neve in single figures. Using regular +4dBu line levels the difference would be microscopic.
So, the message they posted is truthful... but can you hear the difference? Your choice....
There are some really crummy Neve clones out there, I have a photo of the inside of a fake 1081 that beggars belief. Let the buyer beware when buying any old Neve module... and if they have plastic serial number and model number labels instead of aluminium... be VERY suspicious. No labels = fake.