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Old 20th April 2010   #151
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So wait... the new modded version basically has a switch that lets you choose original OR modded in the flick of a switch.... in one unit?? With the tint, dirt, and grab functions all still there??? I'm not a math whiz but isn't that the equivalent of like 14 different compressors? This guy deserves a giant group hug!
Though the group hug sounds great, seems I don't deserve it!

The new switch unfortunately does not switch between original mode or the variable release mod mode. The new switch engages the auto release (previously the A/RX10 button engaged auto release). This allows the A/RX10 switch to function as it does in the original version (extending the range of the controls and possible time tenfold) EXCEPT that it applies to the ATTACK and RELEASE controls.

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Though the group hug sounds great, seems I don't deserve it!

The new switch unfortunately does not switch between original mode or the variable release mod mode. The new switch engages the auto release (previously the A/RX10 button engaged auto release). This allows the A/RX10 switch to function as it does in the original version (extending the range of the controls and possible time tenfold) EXCEPT that it applies to the ATTACK and RELEASE controls.

Again sorry for the confusion!

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Its ok, I'm easily confused. But a switch that switched between stock and mod sure would be cool wouldn't it?! ;-) If that is possible how much to add that additional feature as well?
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Because of the mix knob i find that i can get some really exciting liveliness out of the vocals. I tend to record with a gentle compression into pro tools and then do my heavy limiting with plug-ins which I have inserted while the singer is singing so they can really hear their voices right into the back of their throats. I think it shows in their performances when they can hear every breathe and nuance, every r and growl. I love it when I hear singers play with their voices before we start the take and to get that kind of experimentation you need to give them an exciting experience. The overstayer allows you to dial in relatively easily that extra harmonic excitement, that little push off the cliff. You can hear it on 8mm's new Ep "Love and the Apocalypse" On the songs "Mean" and "Never Go Back". Sorry that you'll have to wait till late May for the release. I also have been using The Overstayer Channel Amplifier with the FET compressor mod for Guitars and Bass which for me is a godsend because I have a bunch of Neve 1073's (which are my faves for drums, a pair of Chandler LTD-1's which are my faves for Juliettes voice, but i have been jonesing for an API or EMI style mic Pre to get the warm and punchy and open mids of the guitars without the high end sizzle of the neve and the Overstayer is exactly what I wanted. To me it has the great mids of the API but the bionic low end and silky highs of the EMI. And the compressor is just genius. one knob set and forget, to the right you can't hear it but it just makes it sound louder without any level change and to the left you can make it more effecty. Jeff is a genius.

hi sean !

good to see you on here. big fan of 8mm....great stuff !!

curious to check out the overstayer....seems like a no brainer for the price point. plus..i like gear with less stuff to turn to get great sounds !

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Because of the mix knob i find that i can get some really exciting liveliness out of the vocals. I tend to record with a gentle compression into pro tools and then do my heavy limiting with plug-ins which I have inserted while the singer is singing so they can really hear their voices right into the back of their throats. I think it shows in their performances when they can hear every breathe and nuance, every r and growl. I love it when I hear singers play with their voices before we start the take and to get that kind of experimentation you need to give them an exciting experience. The overstayer allows you to dial in relatively easily that extra harmonic excitement, that little push off the cliff. You can hear it on 8mm's new Ep "Love and the Apocalypse" On the songs "Mean" and "Never Go Back". Sorry that you'll have to wait till late May for the release. I also have been using The Overstayer Channel Amplifier with the FET compressor mod for Guitars and Bass which for me is a godsend because I have a bunch of Neve 1073's (which are my faves for drums, a pair of Chandler LTD-1's which are my faves for Juliettes voice, but i have been jonesing for an API or EMI style mic Pre to get the warm and punchy and open mids of the guitars without the high end sizzle of the neve and the Overstayer is exactly what I wanted. To me it has the great mids of the API but the bionic low end and silky highs of the EMI. And the compressor is just genius. one knob set and forget, to the right you can't hear it but it just makes it sound louder without any level change and to the left you can make it more effecty. Jeff is a genius.
hello, I'm wondering how it compares to the 1176/mc-77 compression with vocals (without taking the price aspect) ? Has someone compared them side by side ?
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hello, I'm wondering how it compares to the 1176/mc-77 compression with vocals (without taking the price aspect) ? Has someone compared them side by side ?
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I'm wondering something of the same. Someone break the ice on this one... how does it handle the human voice?
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Hello, my name is Eric, and I’m an Compaholic.

Hello, my name is Eric, and I’m an Compaholic.

I just acquired two “OS” stereo compressors. Being the drummer I am these are a dream come true. I’ve only dipped my hand in the pool with these guys but my 1st impression is "damn thats nice".
As a test I let my Flame clockwork & Moog voyager run random & got behind the drum kit to play along. I stuck one OS on the drum bus, & one on the Moog bus. The drum bus OS really brings out some resonance & glued punch to the kit. The other added some nice dirt/body to the synth. I’ll share more “analytical” thoughts/test files shortly once i’m off my gear high, but all in all these things just sound great & have a feature set I’ve been needing for some time now. Highly recommend.


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Very nice! How much of the original signal was blended in?
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comparison to DC-2

Hi Eric ... (Rhythminmind) ...

See you have a Toft DC-2 in your rack ... how does the OS compare to the DC-2 ... especially the fast attack ... ?? Faster, slower, cleaner (if you want it to be), dirtier ... or just in general ... ???

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Very nice! How much of the original signal was blended in?
Well my exact setting's are in that pic. The drum bus is about 55% wet & the synth bus 100%
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Hi Eric ... (Rhythminmind) ...

See you have a Toft DC-2 in your rack ... how does the OS compare to the DC-2 ... especially the fast attack ... ?? Faster, slower, cleaner (if you want it to be), dirtier ... or just in general ... ???

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Night & Day. The Toft can't do the 1176 crunch thing at all. The toft is always smooth/grainy with transients. It's great at smoothing things out. But the Overstayer is a better tool by far. The toft is crap with stereo content. The channel ratios don't match & somthing is wrong with the stereo link design. I've heard this from everyone that owns one. I use them as individual mono channels. But never on drums.
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thanks ..

Tks, Eric ... Bit of luck finding someone who's had a chance to use both the OS and the DC-2 ... Similar price points, and both FETs ... but apparently the OS takes it ... Looks like I'll be placing an order ...

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could someone ram this loop thru the Overstayer with roughly the following settings:
Slow attack
Fast release
low and mid Gain reduction...

would be very grateful...!
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er maybe also this one?
Not exactly sure what sound your going for but I processed the files you uploaded.
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File Type: mp3 drums-orginal.mp3 (1.16 MB, 855 views)
File Type: mp3 drums-one.mp3 (1.16 MB, 812 views)
File Type: mp3 drums-two.mp3 (1.16 MB, 764 views)
File Type: mp3 1141mix-orginal.mp3 (333.6 KB, 686 views)
File Type: mp3 1141 - one.mp3 (333.6 KB, 657 views)
File Type: mp3 1141 - two.mp3 (333.6 KB, 562 views)
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File Type: mp3 1142 - one.mp3 (333.6 KB, 525 views)
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Daaamn, that thing is the real deal. Those first set of horrid 80s drum machine clips alone sold me!
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I agree with Ermz! Sounds damn good on percussions/drums. Great attack and density at the same. Sounds like a perfect drumbus compressor to me. I'll be definitely looking into one!
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Question: Are there plans to release dual-mono versions of this unit? I would absolutely love a compressor with this sort of grab and punch on my individual drum tracks.

I don't use drum bus compression often, so it almost feels like the true power of the unit will be squandered on me.
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Not exactly sure what sound your going for but I processed the files you uploaded.
thanks - that is fat as hell! Love it...although I will prob use it as a channel comp to punch individual sounds...sounds a bit uber on a whole bus...well maybe a bit of both...

That pretty much seals the deal
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Just pulled the pin and ordered one (modded unit) - looking forward to it's imminent arrival...

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Goddamn there's world of difference in those samples, sounds über good!
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Those samples are the best examples, yet, of how good this thing sounds!
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rhythminmind, thanks for posting those clips. Can you put up a few longer clips of only your moog going through it? The first 2 seconds of your clips w/only the moog sounded completely different and the OS version sounded very very "finished". I think there are enough clips on here that its obvious that everyone needs to buy this thing.
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rhythminmind, thanks for posting those clips. Can you put up a few longer clips of only your moog going through it? The first 2 seconds of your clips w/only the moog sounded completely different and the OS version sounded very very "finished". I think there are enough clips on here that its obvious that everyone needs to buy this thing.
No prob I had those on hand..

I've also included 3 others I recorded for test purposes. My musicianship pride stopped me from posting them 1st time around . But what the hell. I think it's about time a more traditional vocalist & or guitarist jump on board.

I record a lot of hard percussion, Udu & Tabla are the hardest to get to sit in a mix. They have very FAST attack with sustain at times. It's hard to get both to translate. Anyways I recorded some BS perc noodling to see how the OS would handle them.. I'm impressed. Checkout the end of the Udu test @ :36, The low doom sounds have a nice harmonic/grit added to them from the OS. That kind of thing can really make it standout in a mix..
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Because it's so much fun to play around with the Overstayer, I ran a little test track today with the OS on a parallel drum bus and muted the bus return every two bars so you can really hear what kind of life this can bring to a drum track.

There's no EQ on anything.

Overstayer - parallel drums
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Stereo Distortion Processor

Here's something useful I totally forgot that the Overstayer can do...(for those who have the release knob version)...turn drive and attack to 10 with x10, tint & dirt engaged and release around 9 o'clock.

It's a full on stereo distortion factory. On some material it sounds like a tape machine with the VU's pinned. When blended to taste it can sometimes be more useful than compression.
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Not exactly sure what sound your going for but I processed the files you uploaded.
Dude for the beat 1141, could you remove the tom and just keep Kick and snare?

Just wondering, so I can get those samples
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Just running this question again:

Are there any plans to develop a mono or dual-mono overstayer compressor unit? Would definitely be more useful to some of us than the stereo version! This would kill on kick and snare!
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I does technically run in dual mono.
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I am very very close to grabbing this and a TK Audio BC1.

I have been looking at bus compressor options for a while. The TK Audio BC1 sounds excellent for transparent compression but as I do gritty hip hop I was looking for something that would give me a bit more bite.

Does anyone have an opinion about purchasing these two compressors (Overstayer modded) as opposed to something like a Dramastic Obsidean or something of that nature? I like the fact that both units have blend controls so I could use them in conjunction or one for master bus one for drum buss.
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I am very very close to grabbing this and a TK Audio BC1.

I have been looking at bus compressor options for a while. The TK Audio BC1 sounds excellent for transparent compression but as I do gritty hip hop I was looking for something that would give me a bit more bite.

Does anyone have an opinion about purchasing these two compressors (Overstayer modded) as opposed to something like a Dramastic Obsidean or something of that nature? I like the fact that both units have blend controls so I could use them in conjunction or one for master bus one for drum buss.
theoretically the Overstayer will give you the bite and the BC1 can tie things up on the masterbuss? Not sure you want 2 levels of character compression on drum buss AND master...maybe also consider the Drawmer 1968 on the masterbuss which is less modern sounding than the BC1 which is SSL sounding...
I'll be getting a Overstayer shortly and using with a 1968 here...
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I just received one of these! I love how it looks. Starting to play with it now...
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I just received one of these! I love how it looks. Starting to play with it now...
That sounds dirty! (hope it is )
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